History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]

There is nothing wrong with educating consumers that they have choice.

You claim (without proof) that Jews offered cheaper products (but notably you didn't say they were of a better quality) and better customer service (but notably you didn't qualify how it was better).

So, let's keep it simple for you. How much did these Jewish shops reinvest in non-Jewish community projects and spend in non-Jewish shops vice their own communities and businesses?

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]


Oh? You are a true Polish patriot, huh?

Who is your president?

Say his name loud and say it proud!

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


No, problem. Go to your post #156 in this thread. Here, I'll quote you for the benefit of others since I'm sure you'll continue to claim you never said it.



Of course. Like I pointed out previously, when challenged you don't want to explain yourself because you can't and therefore need to move on to other topics.

Thanks again for proving me correct.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]


It is important to have perspective for this thread and all others on PolishForums when certain Poland-hating posters hypocritically get on their high horse and use shaming language on other posters who are Polish or have kindred love for Poland.

The first who reach for shaming language are those raised as card-carrying communists in Soviet occupied Poland. They and their families benefitted immensely and got very comfortable jobs for life (well, at least until communism fell which they foolishly thought would never happen). Under communism they got the latest appliances and access to choice property which was far out of reach of true Poles. As communists they took for granted that they could take trips abroad while true Poles were subjected daily to Soviet oppression and terror all across Poland between 1947 - 1989. So any propaganda their beloved Communist Party declared in the last century (like demonizing the Home Army) they still believe it today and foolishly continue to defend their lost cause. They resent that today their communist credentials are something to be laughed at and always rightfully condemned. They are still flabbergasted that even their fellow communists at the time found Jewish hatred and oppression of Poles coupled with their unvarnished Zionism to be too much to tolerate any further thus resulting in their expulsion in 1968. They are outraged that the Polish public today is not calling for any of these expelled Zionists to return. They fume that instead it is the Home Army which is rightfully and publicly given honor, respect, and granted the esteemed position of being brave and inspirational role models for Poland's 21st century youth and beyond.

The second are those wanna-be communists predominately from Britain. They grew-up resenting that they lived in a class structured society and from a position at the bottom which they could never rise up from. Being British they wanted and genuinely believed they deserved all the insider benefits that would come by simply aligning themselves with communism. And being old meant that when they decided to go to Poland they would never have had to endure the horrors of communism but could still benefit from its fallout like lower cost of living and socialized services they never paid into. Therefore communism was still good and never to be questioned. By extension, since communist leaders like the work-shy hypocrite Marx, the murdering psychopath Trotsky, the Soviet lickspittle Bierut, and other notorious communists were Jewish that means in their heads all Jews can do no wrong either and if anything is found to be criminal or lacking in their character that means it is be denied, denied, denied and projected onto non-Jews; preferably Poles.

The third are those who don't believe in communism and never would. However, they intoxicatingly admire the self-segregating livelihoods and misplaced superiority complex they see in the Jewish community and like good cuckolds they overlook the fact that Jews want nothing to do with them in return. Jews live the way they would want to live: apart from others, better than others, and never questioned by others. Such persons can be found predominately from the American South. They have very fond memories (which they would never admit to) of a lost past where segregation was normal and which their ancestors benefitted from and which they too continued to benefit from under its legacy. Under the guise of born-again Christianity (and/or a latent, simmering, deep seated resentment of having lost the Civil War), they worship the Jewish State of Israel because it is the current embodiment of their very own bygone way of life. They will deflect criticism and point out that since Jesus was a Jew and all Jews are amusingly self-declared as being "God's chosen people" that by default means all Jews are good and beyond any criticism (even though they have no problem themselves shoveling criticism out onto non-Jews). In their warped logic they can't lose with their philosemitism. They can openly adore a foreign apartheid country rather than being a productive, contributing member in the diverse America their ancestors lost against. They actually believe their idolatry of Israel and Jews at large will either fulfill their fairytale story of a Messianic return or they can still use it to hopefully explain their way into a heavenly afterlife. I've heard some of these characters have actually converted to Judaism "to be closer to Jesus" but clearly it gives them an excuse to live a segregated life without being criticized for doing so. They may go to Israel as tourists to give their moral and financial support. But they are keenly aware they could never settle there thanks to DNA screening and that's where Poland comes in. Poland gives them the opportunity to live in a predominately white country like their ancestors once did while hopefully scoring some virtue signaling points of sanctifying all things Judaic and engaging in ad hom attacks against all those who don't join with them in worship of their idols.

So if anyone here starts with their smug empty-headed shaming language against Poles and Polonophiles just refer to any of the above categories to see where they fall into and what sort of frighteningly dysfunctional upbringing these sociopathic critics had themselves.

You're welcome.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


Again, you are completely lost in the contradictions of your propaganda hoping no one will ever notice and call you out on it.

One moment you are insisting Jews are 100% Polish. The next moment (when it conveniently suits your narrative) suddenly they are reverentially distinct, always good, and nothing and never like the irredeemably evil Poles.

In your head, they are Jews when its time for accolades and pity and they are Poles when its time for personal responsibility and being held to account.

Your logic is no different than when a business seeks to privatize its profits and then strives to socialize its liabilities.


You mean the documented truth like Zionist maniacs residing in Poland who actively sought "to come to terms with the modern world without surrendering their ethnic identity"?

You mean there have never been boys only and girls only schools in Poland regardless of the local community they served?

You mean students were never and are never separated for things like physical activity and curricula?

That students never self-segregate into social groups they personally and naturally prefer to be in during and after school?


You vociferously claimed it was a law only a few posts ago but thanks to me pointing out how totally wrong you were you had no choice but to climb down and admit that your so-called law never existed. Nice try though attempting to save face by saying "they didn't have to pass any laws."

Everyone here knows you are an unrepentant communist (your side lost by the way) but the vast majority of people simply do not want government micromanaging anything at the local level.

If you knew anything about teaching you would know that teachers want, need and deserve to have control over their classrooms. There is nothing out of the ordinary to assign seating if students are unruly or would benefit by it if they have difficulty seeing, hearing or paying attention during lessons.

If politically charged Zionist students did not and would not identify as Poles then it was clearly beneficial to teachers, the Zionist agitators, and Polish students to assign seating accordingly and maintain order in the classroom.

Jews have always had their own pre-university schools and there is no record or legacy of them doing outreach and having non-Jews attend them.

If they had a problem with any policies at Polish universities then they shouldn't have gone to them in the first place or they should have set up their own.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


But you always claim Jews are Polish and Jews themselves practiced segregated seating amongst themselves even in schools.

So you better explain this contradiction in your propaganda.


Yes, it was a lie.

It was never a law enacted by the Polish government.

It was a policy at the university level.

Big difference.

But prove me wrong.

Provide a copy of this so-called "bench ghetto segregation law." Chapter, verse, and law code number.

Provide the names of the Jewish members of the Sejm during this period who either voted for or against this so-called "bench ghetto segregation law."

Also, give us numbers for the Jewish students who left their universities because of such seating arrangements and those who stayed and finished.

You can do all this, right? Or are you going to change the topic? My safe bet is that you, of course, will do the latter.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


Nope. But the pattern you consistently display (like others here with your lefty mindset) is to never explain yourself and talk about something else. Oh, and you always show how nervous you are about having an honest conversation by shouting slurs at those of us who are willing to challenge your propaganda.


See, digression. Thanks for proving my point.

But sorry, the test I gave you is over and you can't take it again. You failed.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


You had only two True or False questions to answer with hints plus the chance to earn some bonus points.

You failed and you only have yourself to blame.


Oh, so the Jewish students at university had nothing in common at all with chasidim Jews. Do tell us more.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


LOL!

You are quite the sophomoric student in serious need of a long overdue lesson.

A) True or False, Jews have a long tradition of separating men and women in their community during religious services and school teaching for all age groups and is still practiced by some Jewish communities today.

Hint:



B) True or False, shtetls in Poland were market towns which were freely inhabited and exclusively by Jews where they enjoyed social stability, homogeneity, and the preservation of their own language, traditions and religious practices.

Hint:



Bonus points if you can not only identify the above structures and where they stand today but also provide a full explanation as to why marauding "bench ghetto"-enforcing Poles never raised them to the ground.

Extra bonus points if you can explain why the above structures are so amusingly large for a community which you propagandize as being segregated, downtrodden, poor and therefore oh-so deserving of everyone's pity and unreserved apologies.

History / Roman Dmowski-Patriot, Nationalist, Anti-Semite? [251]


A great deal and on both sides.

Some Marxist agitators on PolishForums deliberately want to mislead the public by pushing the notion that Jews in Poland were always victims. That these so-called passive overachievers did everything to contribute and integrate but Poles kept holding them back and knocking them down.

Of course these repeatedly told boldfaced lies are always purposefully spread propaganda.

For instance, many Jews in interwar Poland were attracted to Zionism because it "offered them a way to come to terms with the modern world without surrendering their ethnic identity."

Link to the above quote: academic.oup.com/jcs/article-abstract/25/2/371/830303?redirectedFrom=PDF

How very telling that as recently as the early to mid 1900s there were many Jews residing in Poland (with some still alive today) who admittedly never identified as being Polish and actively sought avenues and safety in numbers so as to protect and preserve their Jewishness rather than integrate into wider Polish society.

Fast forward to today, where this same Zionist movement has its own foreign homeland in the Middle East, and there are now very serious and publicly admitted misgivings, doubts and hurt among a much younger generations of Jews: "as a Jewish person, I was fed a huge amount of lies about Israel my entire life."

Link to the above quote: jacobinmag.com/2020/07/seth-rogen-israel-occupation-palestine

If young Jews are being told lies about Israel by the adults in their own community, then the blatant lies that are being spread about Poland by visiting Jews to your high school only proves that this is a well funded, well coordinated, and very sinister program at play.

Anyone who supports Zionism while hypocritically decrying Polish patriotism or nationalism is never, ever, worth listening to. They have no credibility whatsoever; right off the bat.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]


Yawn.

The Nazi party was German and ended in the 1940s.

Poles are not and never were Nazis.

True Poles were never communists either but communists are still around today.

Something for you to self-reflect upon.


I'll repeat it since you are still living in denial:


Now, which group got expelled from Poland in 1968 which helped pave the way for the fall of communism in Poland in 1989?

Something else for you to self-reflect upon.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]

It's been noted that the likes of Trotsky and many other professional left wing agitators and revolutionaries changed their real names to native sounding ones in order to better dupe the locals in the nations they actively sought to destroy.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]


The same can said of you and your always enthusiastic and unquestioning philo-semitism. Your idolizing of this minority group isn't normal or healthy whether you are a part of them or worse if you are not.

And it is a safe bet that your obsequiousness is not really voluntary but actually rooted in fear. It reminds me of the 1960's American show The Twilight Zone and an episode titled "It's a Good Life" where all the adults in a town are terrified of a six year old child who has the power to make people vanish if they displease him.

Here is part of the plot summary: "Everybody is under his rule, even his parents. The people live in fear of him, constantly telling him how everything he does is "good," since he banishes anyone thinking unhappy thoughts into the otherworldly cornfield from which there is no return."

Here is the link to read more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life_(The_Twilight_Zone)

Today such powers are called "cancel culture" and are a punitive reaction for committing wrong think as decided by today's intolerant totalitarian leftists (who are the descendants of yesterday's intolerant totalitarian leftists). And as a leftist yourself you need to realize that all leftists get trapped in a purity spiral. You can accuse others today of hatred for not joining you in worship of your idols but tomorrow your idols will denounce you as a hater for not fawning over them enough.

Free your mind.

History / "Poland Syndrome" should be renamed [45]

Thanks everyone for admitting with so many examples of how unimaginative and impoverished the English vocabulary truly is.

Travel / Architecture style in Poland [24]

Because they think like magnates and are amused by those raised as British subjects who still think, act, and settle for being latter-day serfs.

History / Polish Museums and Selective Forgetting [10]

How unsurprising that you need to refer the matter to others because you personally have nothing worthwhile to contribute to the thread.

I did mention the exhibit covered the topics of Nazi and Soviet terror and pointed out that it only went as far as 1956.

If you actually understood Poland's history you would have known that Nazi and Soviet military occupation of Poland ended in 1945.

Soviet interference and oppression in Poland continued but it didn't end in 1956.

History / Cursed soldiers controvercy - not all Poles respect them [282]

Clearly for some on PolishForums their daily incantation is "I want my PRL back!"

"the official propaganda line in communist Poland was that the Home Army was an oppressive and reactionary force"

Link to quote: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army

But let's not selectively forget what also occurred around the mid-1940s:

"'One of the biggest anti-partisan operations by the communist authorities took place from 10-25 June 1945, in and around the Suwałki and Augustów regions of Poland. More than 2,000 suspected anti-communist Polish fighters were captured and detained in Soviet internment camps. About 600 of the "Augustow Missing" are presumed to have died in Soviet custody, their bodies buried in unknown mass graves on the present territory of Russia. The Polish Institute of National Remembrance has declared the 1945 Augustów roundup to be "the largest crime committed by the Soviets on Polish lands after World War II."'

Link to citation: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursed_soldiers

Classifieds / Korean looking for a job in Poland [18]


If you want to work in Poland you should focus on learning Polish rather than trying to get by on English.

Law / Polish Army WWII and citizenship [17]


Then give examples of what PO did for Poland's diaspora with roots from before the PRL.

I'm not talking about those Poles who were forced out of Poland during WWII and the PRL to former Soviet Republics.

I'm referring to those Poles outside the communist bloc who were denied recognition and re-entry into Poland since the 1940s until now by your fellow PRL apparatchiks.

Law / Polish Army WWII and citizenship [17]


How, when you are still around?


PO did nothing for Poland's diaspora with roots from before the PRL.

Law / Polish Army WWII and citizenship [17]

How sad that there is still a generation of unrepentant communists who effectively put Poland's history starting with the PRL to frustrate and deny citizenship to the Polish diaspora while at the same time bemoaning Poland's demographic decline.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Ah yes, the Istanbul Convention. Formally known as the "Council of Europe Convention on preventing and combating violence against women and domestic violence."

If these feminists truly believed in equality (rather than seeking an even more privileged position for women in society) then they would start by protesting to get rid of the misandrist title and language littered throughout the treaty.

They would be demanding (as repeated research has shown) that women not only be recognized as prevalent agitators and perpetrators of abusive behaviors in domestic relationships but also that they be held to account to exactly the same standard as a man would be.

Life / Is Polish church involved in politics too much? [124]

There are posts which can be found on PolishForums cheering the decline in church attendance particularly among the young. So any position held by the church doesn't have much of an audience to influence.

The only ones with too much biased involvement in politics is leftwing dominated mainstream media and social media platforms.

Law / My Great GrandMother was born in Poland sometime before 1915 - any chance for Polish citizenship? [37]


None here thank you very much but face it you are the one with some very deep seated issues who is on here seeking undeserved pity from a bunch of strangers.

There is no denying that Jews have done extremely well for themselves in the United States and don't face the systemic racism and cyclical poverty and discrimination which any other minority group faces generation after generation.

So rather than you falsely portraying America as being some hotbed for anti-semitism which you need to flee from why don't you go and check your privilege.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1158]

Everyone hates the EU.

In 2018 Trump downgraded the EU's delegation in Washington DC from a previously held status equivalent to that of a national embassy to merely an international organization.

And in classic Trump style he didn't even tell the EU in advance he was going to do this.

And here is the opinion from within the EU itself:

History / "Poland Syndrome" should be renamed [45]


Agreed. Poland as a country is more commonly known than someone in Britain who died nearly 150 years ago.

Thanks to centuries of hostility towards Poland the continued misattribution of the name Poland to a deformity would only make the ill-informed assume it is genetic to those of Polish heritage and could also give anti-Poland haters a motive to bully both sufferers of this condition and Poles in general.

The medical establish could and should come up with a different medical term.

It is a good time to do so as well. Coincidently, a male-hating feminist "doctor" in Australia wants male-named body parts remained because they of course offend her.

New push to RENAME body parts like the Adam's apple and Achilles' tendon because they are 'irrelevant and misogynistic'

Link to the headline: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8537393/Sexist-body-terms-like-Adams-apple-no-longer-used-doctor-says.html

Law / My Great GrandMother was born in Poland sometime before 1915 - any chance for Polish citizenship? [37]


You are not being honest at all.

There is a very, very long list of Jewish organizations (especially lobbying organizations) all across the United States to address your concerns if they haven't done so already.

Jews live and work without any restrictions and many can be found at every level of Government (local, state and federal) where policies are shaped, passed into law, and carried out. Again, you can take your concerns to your political representatives or get a lawyer if you have an actual case to be addressed in the courts.

You listed in your profile that you are from the American state of Illinois. The town you listed is literally in the boondocks. Oh, and your current governor by the name of Pritzker is not only a leftwing Democrat but he is Jewish. Did you talk to him yet about your nervousness? Ask him why he doesn't share your paranoia.

As for the state of Illinois you choose to live in, yes you really do face a bleak future but it has nothing to do with you crying wolf on here about anti-semitism:

"We're financially bankrupt, we're morally bankrupt, we're ethically bankrupt ... I hope Washington, D.C. decides that if they're going to send us money, they're going to send us reform as well. Because the average Illinoisan is struggling."

Link to the quote: illinoispolicy.org/pritzker-should-look-to-other-states-to-develop-a-responsible-reopening-plan/

By the way, as an American there is nothing stopping you from moving to 49 other states with just as many isolated areas as you live in now. You can also run away to any several US territories like Guam or Puerto Rico where you can really get away from it all. You can even relocate to more urban areas in the US with larger Jewish communities; some come with their own boundary defining eruv lines.


Poland is no longer the place you claim your father's father's family came from.

Poland is very homogenous too now, so are you really telling everyone here that you want no part of the unparalleled diversity which only the United States can provide you?

Unsurprisingly, you didn't mention what you would do for Poland if you resettled. Well, don't expect a free ride like you've been enjoying up until now in Illinois.


But of course. The true ethno-state. An international pariah, unjustifiably funded with obscene amounts of rubber-stamped American tax dollars which ensures cradle-to-grave welfare for Israeli citizens, and a foreign country which is effectively if not literally worshipped by every single one of your American politicians.

I really am curious though as to why an American like yourself has such a problem with diversity and would rather hide in pale, homogenous countries like Poland or Israel.

Do you think you can pass Israel's DNA test which they now use for those seeking to settle there?

DNA Testing to 'Prove' Jewishness Is Spine-chilling

Link to the headline: haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/dna-testing-to-prove-jewishness-is-spine-chilling-1.7772897

More importantly, do you think Poland should copy Israel and use DNA testing for immigration use? Especially for those like yourself who are looking to run away from your personal problems now that you have reached retirement age.

I'm really looking forward to your "perfectly honest" answers.

Love / What can I do so that this Pole will love me? Why does he act like a hero and then breaks my heart? [25]

@Mr Grunwald

You may agree that increasingly it's becoming common public knowledge.

Sure, the cuckold politicians, crazy feminists, and divorce lawyers hate this awareness going mainstream but oh well.

Smarter, younger men of today have options. They can still date casually, sleep around with women, focus on their careers, their hobbies, their friendships. But they have absolutely no intention of falling into the jaws of a marriage trap and are actually much happier than their miserable, even suicidal, married counterparts.

Today's informed men know that the so-called "mystery of a woman" was always just a way to deceive well intentioned men by covering up what was guaranteed to be a bad deal for them.

Men know they don't have to turn a blind eye to toxic female dysfunctional drama in order to try to hold a doomed relationship together.

It's easier and better to just walk away.

Or better yet, don't get involved in the first place.

Love / What can I do so that this Pole will love me? Why does he act like a hero and then breaks my heart? [25]


Oh, perhaps that still works but only for little while.

Clearly you don't understand the true hypergamous nature of women.



But unlike serially divorced older men who never learn their lesson and can't live without female validation, the younger men of today are keenly aware of the phrase "She's not yours, it's just your turn."