Cardno85
30 Oct 2011
Food / Polish kishka [76]
Margarine??? Butter all the way, I'd rather have a heart attack than bad flavour!!
bake it with a little margarine
Margarine??? Butter all the way, I'd rather have a heart attack than bad flavour!!
Cardno85
17 Oct 2011
UK, Ireland / Best way to get boxes from UK to Poland? [25]
If it's only about half a transit then don't bother with moving companies. Go to a Polish shop and ask the people in there about it. Very often they will be taking a van back and forth to Poland to get stock and it's better for them to get some money taking stuff to Poland than driving with an empty load. I know that my friends that stayed in London often took stuff back to Poland for people if they had space and they were going anyway.
This often works out cheaper, you just need to ask :)
If it's only about half a transit then don't bother with moving companies. Go to a Polish shop and ask the people in there about it. Very often they will be taking a van back and forth to Poland to get stock and it's better for them to get some money taking stuff to Poland than driving with an empty load. I know that my friends that stayed in London often took stuff back to Poland for people if they had space and they were going anyway.
This often works out cheaper, you just need to ask :)
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
True, I got amalgite (sp? the metal stuff) fillings and it cost me 260 quid for that and descaling (again, it's important to FLOSS kids!!). That's because I hadn't been to a dentist for about 5 or 6 years. 260 doesn't sound much for 12 fillings and a cleaning (oh, and replacing a chip in my front tooth), but imagine you were earning 200 pound a week and had rent, bills, kids, food and transport costs to pay for...suddenly taking over a quarter of your monthly income to fix your teeth sounds like an awful lot.
I think the same rings true in Poland where there a lot of people (especially in the city where rent is very expensive) are on wages which leave very little squeezing room.
Even NHS dental work costs a fortune these days.
True, I got amalgite (sp? the metal stuff) fillings and it cost me 260 quid for that and descaling (again, it's important to FLOSS kids!!). That's because I hadn't been to a dentist for about 5 or 6 years. 260 doesn't sound much for 12 fillings and a cleaning (oh, and replacing a chip in my front tooth), but imagine you were earning 200 pound a week and had rent, bills, kids, food and transport costs to pay for...suddenly taking over a quarter of your monthly income to fix your teeth sounds like an awful lot.
I think the same rings true in Poland where there a lot of people (especially in the city where rent is very expensive) are on wages which leave very little squeezing room.
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
Something I learned the hard way recently when I had to get 12 fillings and a wisdom tooth out because I was never told to floss. Not a pleasant afternoon I can tell you!
Then you floss or use a paroxa brush between the teeth.
Something I learned the hard way recently when I had to get 12 fillings and a wisdom tooth out because I was never told to floss. Not a pleasant afternoon I can tell you!
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
I did when I was young even though I brushed twice/three times a day.
You are right, it could be any of them. I think PF should commission a study...or someone should, I guess we are not a scientific organisation (which some people on forum (not you) seem to forget).
Kids can go to the dentist once every 6 months and need fillings every time.
I did when I was young even though I brushed twice/three times a day.
Could be lack of dental hygeine or poor diet.
You are right, it could be any of them. I think PF should commission a study...or someone should, I guess we are not a scientific organisation (which some people on forum (not you) seem to forget).
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - victims or criminals?! [243]
I'm a bit late on the uptake here. Bit of an ironic post saying that they should have more self respect and seeming all supportive and then saying she's a gold-digger. Beautiful sentiment.
You should go back to Poland. Why stay in a country that is going to hate you? Don't you have any self respect? Is Poland really that bad? Let me guess, you went there to snag a rich westerner?
I'm a bit late on the uptake here. Bit of an ironic post saying that they should have more self respect and seeming all supportive and then saying she's a gold-digger. Beautiful sentiment.
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
Richer because people think of Seoul, there is a BIG divide between rich and poor in Korea. Where my Dad lives he has spotty broadband, most people work in a yard where they work about 60-70 hours a week for minimum wage to support their families living on the breadline. On the yard my Dad works in there are about 200,00 people working and it's the smallest...
...make your assumptions from there.
South Korea, which is generally known to be one of the richer countries, listed as the 4th-worst.
Richer because people think of Seoul, there is a BIG divide between rich and poor in Korea. Where my Dad lives he has spotty broadband, most people work in a yard where they work about 60-70 hours a week for minimum wage to support their families living on the breadline. On the yard my Dad works in there are about 200,00 people working and it's the smallest...
...make your assumptions from there.
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
Good point, and sorry to all for going not just off topic, but off forum. I think the problem is that, while Americans and other people where dental treatment isn't heavily subsidised, in Poland (for people on a "normal" salary) dental care is not hugely cheap. I know when I was there and working on basic wages, I could think of a good few things I could spend my wages on that wasn't the Dentist (just to note, those things were food, rent and transport...then I was skint). That could be a reason why Poland (and other countries in the region) suffer from bad teeth.
This isn't a dig at Poland, this is just an observation from working at (just) above minimum wage.
Good point, and sorry to all for going not just off topic, but off forum. I think the problem is that, while Americans and other people where dental treatment isn't heavily subsidised, in Poland (for people on a "normal" salary) dental care is not hugely cheap. I know when I was there and working on basic wages, I could think of a good few things I could spend my wages on that wasn't the Dentist (just to note, those things were food, rent and transport...then I was skint). That could be a reason why Poland (and other countries in the region) suffer from bad teeth.
This isn't a dig at Poland, this is just an observation from working at (just) above minimum wage.
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Food / Smalec - how to make it? [53]
Personally I like it as it is on good bread still warm out of the bakery and with a wee shot or two. But that's just me :)
the best way to eat smalec is on bread with slices of onion, dill pickle and hard-boiled egg on top - yum - then down it with a glass of dill pickle marinade (or whatever you call that liquid in English)
Personally I like it as it is on good bread still warm out of the bakery and with a wee shot or two. But that's just me :)
Cardno85
13 Sep 2011
Life / Poland: worst teeth in the world? [98]
Someone's been watching too many sitcoms/simpsons episodes. In reality the UK (as proved by the OECD, who are the source in the chart up top and are independent) has the best dental health in the world.
The difference between American dental health and UK dental health is about appearance. In the US attention is paid more to having straight, white teeth. Whereas in the UK, attention is paid to the health of the individual teeth and not about overall appearance. Hence the UK have less decays and gum disease, while the US have attention on straight and white teeth...your choice which you prefer from a dentist.
Someone's been watching too many sitcoms/simpsons episodes. In reality the UK (as proved by the OECD, who are the source in the chart up top and are independent) has the best dental health in the world.
The difference between American dental health and UK dental health is about appearance. In the US attention is paid more to having straight, white teeth. Whereas in the UK, attention is paid to the health of the individual teeth and not about overall appearance. Hence the UK have less decays and gum disease, while the US have attention on straight and white teeth...your choice which you prefer from a dentist.
Cardno85
12 May 2011
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1400]
I am a big fan of pigeon myself, but I would never eat urban pigeon, even more so if I hadn't killed it myself. The reason they are called flying rats in so many places is because they nest in urban rooftops and other areas which are not exactly clean. They eat god-knows what and they have god knows how many diseases.
Wood pigeons are where it's at!
Well, actually we love our urban poultry. We never deprive them of their life, only collect dead ones and then cook.
I am a big fan of pigeon myself, but I would never eat urban pigeon, even more so if I hadn't killed it myself. The reason they are called flying rats in so many places is because they nest in urban rooftops and other areas which are not exactly clean. They eat god-knows what and they have god knows how many diseases.
Wood pigeons are where it's at!
Cardno85
24 Mar 2011
Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]
I am happy to see that you are proud of your roots. But you are being a bit blinkered because of long visits and not experiencing the harsh reality of everyday life.
I love Poland and can't wait to get back, but there's nowhere that's perfect...and for you to just turn round and straight contradict what the last poster has said seems a bit vidictive and blindly patriotic.
My 3 for Poland would be:
Customer Service
Trying to get anything done in government offices
Selection of food in shops
Mike
I am happy to see that you are proud of your roots. But you are being a bit blinkered because of long visits and not experiencing the harsh reality of everyday life.
I love Poland and can't wait to get back, but there's nowhere that's perfect...and for you to just turn round and straight contradict what the last poster has said seems a bit vidictive and blindly patriotic.
My 3 for Poland would be:
Customer Service
Trying to get anything done in government offices
Selection of food in shops
Cardno85
20 Feb 2011
Life / Weird names Polish parents give to their kids [43]
I must ask then, what is the explanation for Aleksandra-Ola??
It's simple: Joanna - Joasia - Asia
I must ask then, what is the explanation for Aleksandra-Ola??
Cardno85
20 Feb 2011
Life / Price of cigarettes in Poland? [192]
Fair enough, stand up for your rights, try what this website says...
For one, when travelling, I prefer to get from A to B with as little hassle as possible so I will be taking as much as the airport says I can take and not a single cigarette more. I might be doing their job for them, but I'd rather not spend even 5 minutes more in an airport than I have to.
Fair enough, stand up for your rights, try what this website says...
For one, when travelling, I prefer to get from A to B with as little hassle as possible so I will be taking as much as the airport says I can take and not a single cigarette more. I might be doing their job for them, but I'd rather not spend even 5 minutes more in an airport than I have to.
Cardno85
13 Jan 2011
Language / Differences in Polish and English idioms [69]
I also use a "Glasgow University" accent while saying it.
; )
I also use a "Glasgow University" accent while saying it.
Cardno85
12 Jan 2011
Language / Differences in Polish and English idioms [69]
I use it, but only if I am trying to be amusing by using an out of date idiom...
Plus, it's nicer than saying it's pishing down, no?
Ok, well that's one person - any more? ; )
I use it, but only if I am trying to be amusing by using an out of date idiom...
Plus, it's nicer than saying it's pishing down, no?
Cardno85
6 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
That is complete rubbish...matured brie, camembert, etc. will all stick to the knife when it's ready. Infact lots of cheeses will stick to a knife when mature. You say you don't like British cheese but your example was processed, Irish cheese which hardly counts. As for your statement that you can't find any good British cheese in shops...that is just not true. I have seen small shops that stock at least 10 different varieties of british cheese...plus imported stuff and processed junk.
You are correct, Polish imitations are not bad. The thing is, how can you possibly compare a big company, factory producing imitations of other European cheeses to an original artisan cheese from France, Italy or Britain.
As for your comment to Dave, I know for a fact that he, like most people can fry, scramble, boil, devil and poach an egg. Plus an egg is an invaluable tool for making custard, mayonnaise, pasta and millions of other things.
And Sadło in English is fat, the fat that you have on meat before it is processed. From that you get lard, suet, tallow and various oils. Butchers and abattoirs actually use almost all of the pig, cow or sheep. Maybe you don't see it in supermarkets, but if you actually go into a butcher shop you will see a huge amount of cuts, organs and fat.
This just for fun:
1. You can use it for all sorts of stuff. I personally like it for making meat puddings. But I know it can be used for making natural candles, to turn it into a spread and it has loads of baking uses.
2, 3 & 4. How on earth can you comment on fish coming from a country where fish is mostly smoked or frozen. But you know a fish is fresh by looking at it's eyes and feeling the skin, it should be wet but not slimy. Trout is also better baked than fried because it has a large amount of natural oil that will spoil when it's fried. To clean it you should cut open the belly and take out the guts under running cold water. If it's not been scaled then a good way to get rid of the scales is to take a plank of wood with 5 or 6 nails sticking out and scrape that against the direction of the scales.
5. I'm not sure what you mean by clear brew? If you are meaning consomme then you can use an egg white to make it clear, and you would add salt to take away bitterness and to season.
6. You are missing a step, you don't just add fried onion, you fry onion with star anise and then add the meat...it enhances the meaty taste (aka umami).
7. If meat is stewed properly then it will not lose flavour...infact I have never had a stew that had flavourless meat.
8. I hardly ever cook cucumber, I like it fresh out the garden just a quick rinse and eaten skin and all.
9. I'll give you that one as cabbage is not a huge part of the scottish diet.
10. I am too lazy to give you a whole list of mushrooms for each one, plus lots of them I don't know the names of...just how they look. But a good rule of thumb is that button mushrooms are good for pickling, regular mushrooms are good for cooking now and wild mushrooms are good for drying. But that's just a rough guide of what's in an average shop.
11. Most citrus goes well with duck, but also a lot of sweeter fruits like plum and even apricot contrast the strong flavours of the duck.
I'm not Polish, but I know this because I'm not a 2 year old.
Cheese that sticks to the knife is not matured well.
That is complete rubbish...matured brie, camembert, etc. will all stick to the knife when it's ready. Infact lots of cheeses will stick to a knife when mature. You say you don't like British cheese but your example was processed, Irish cheese which hardly counts. As for your statement that you can't find any good British cheese in shops...that is just not true. I have seen small shops that stock at least 10 different varieties of british cheese...plus imported stuff and processed junk.
Polish imitations are not half bad, if you know what you're buying. I mean matured cheeses. And there is that Polish attempt on the Roquefort type, slightly different, of course, but on a similar level. I'd say better than Stilton, but his would be personal taste, probably. Polish Brie is not bad either.
You are correct, Polish imitations are not bad. The thing is, how can you possibly compare a big company, factory producing imitations of other European cheeses to an original artisan cheese from France, Italy or Britain.
As for your comment to Dave, I know for a fact that he, like most people can fry, scramble, boil, devil and poach an egg. Plus an egg is an invaluable tool for making custard, mayonnaise, pasta and millions of other things.
And Sadło in English is fat, the fat that you have on meat before it is processed. From that you get lard, suet, tallow and various oils. Butchers and abattoirs actually use almost all of the pig, cow or sheep. Maybe you don't see it in supermarkets, but if you actually go into a butcher shop you will see a huge amount of cuts, organs and fat.
What can you make from tallow?
This just for fun:
1. You can use it for all sorts of stuff. I personally like it for making meat puddings. But I know it can be used for making natural candles, to turn it into a spread and it has loads of baking uses.
2, 3 & 4. How on earth can you comment on fish coming from a country where fish is mostly smoked or frozen. But you know a fish is fresh by looking at it's eyes and feeling the skin, it should be wet but not slimy. Trout is also better baked than fried because it has a large amount of natural oil that will spoil when it's fried. To clean it you should cut open the belly and take out the guts under running cold water. If it's not been scaled then a good way to get rid of the scales is to take a plank of wood with 5 or 6 nails sticking out and scrape that against the direction of the scales.
5. I'm not sure what you mean by clear brew? If you are meaning consomme then you can use an egg white to make it clear, and you would add salt to take away bitterness and to season.
6. You are missing a step, you don't just add fried onion, you fry onion with star anise and then add the meat...it enhances the meaty taste (aka umami).
7. If meat is stewed properly then it will not lose flavour...infact I have never had a stew that had flavourless meat.
8. I hardly ever cook cucumber, I like it fresh out the garden just a quick rinse and eaten skin and all.
9. I'll give you that one as cabbage is not a huge part of the scottish diet.
10. I am too lazy to give you a whole list of mushrooms for each one, plus lots of them I don't know the names of...just how they look. But a good rule of thumb is that button mushrooms are good for pickling, regular mushrooms are good for cooking now and wild mushrooms are good for drying. But that's just a rough guide of what's in an average shop.
11. Most citrus goes well with duck, but also a lot of sweeter fruits like plum and even apricot contrast the strong flavours of the duck.
I'm not Polish, but I know this because I'm not a 2 year old.
Cardno85
5 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Oh, I'm sorry...so the judge of a good cheese is how easily and well you can slice it??
Ok, in the UK there are over 700 named varieties of cheese, the same as France, 300 more than Italy and 250 more than Switzerland. British cheese is well respected throughout Europe winning numerous prizes and often finding it's way onto cheese boards in many restaurants continent-wide. Also, when comparing to Swiss (almost exclusively cow's milk) the British range of cheeses is far more dynamic.
I'm not saying, like a lot of expats do, that you can't get decent foreign cheese in Poland...it's just that there is a limited choice and it's very expensive.
What do you mean British chauvinist? Because I defend my country's cuisine? Isn't that what you are doing with Poland? And if chauvinist is what you mean...I didn't start saying that women were all the ones in the kitchen doing the cooking, that was you...
No English cheese can be properly sliced, it all crumbles to bits.
Oh, I'm sorry...so the judge of a good cheese is how easily and well you can slice it??
In Europe, say, the rest of the world hardly makes any cheese. So the 'few' looks a bit different then. Italy, France, Switzerland come immediately to mind.
Ok, in the UK there are over 700 named varieties of cheese, the same as France, 300 more than Italy and 250 more than Switzerland. British cheese is well respected throughout Europe winning numerous prizes and often finding it's way onto cheese boards in many restaurants continent-wide. Also, when comparing to Swiss (almost exclusively cow's milk) the British range of cheeses is far more dynamic.
That seems like true, you bloody British chauvinist! :) But there are those new French supermarkets, and Lidl.
I'm not saying, like a lot of expats do, that you can't get decent foreign cheese in Poland...it's just that there is a limited choice and it's very expensive.
What do you mean British chauvinist? Because I defend my country's cuisine? Isn't that what you are doing with Poland? And if chauvinist is what you mean...I didn't start saying that women were all the ones in the kitchen doing the cooking, that was you...
Cardno85
4 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
nott
I must admit, that's not a very broad outlook. I agree on the points about black pudding (I like mine spicy), pasties, ales and, to an extent, fish and chips.
But most of the stuff you mentioned are condiments and fast food, not a great way to sample a countries food. Save cheese, and someone from Poland slagging off British cheeses amuses me. Under matured? There are hundreds of mature cheeses in the UK. Plus the variety of cheese in general is rivalled by very few countries in the world. Plus we have a much bigger selection of other European cheeses in the shops than in Poland.
Ok, let's say for the minute this was true. I think you will see that a lot of the brits on the forum have already had bad things to say about Polish food...not quite the awe you are stating. But also, how many British cooks (in the home and restaurants) have ever had the chance or the want to compare themselves to Polish women in the home? Not very many at all. Just like how many Polish people really see what most families in the the UK are cooking at home? You can't gain a proper insight into how a country does it's home cooking by visiting a few people. You do that by living and growing up there. It's hardly a comparison you or I are qualified to make.
Ok, so you had it 6 years ago at a special function. I'll be honest, I know lots of people in the industry and most of them would laugh at the idea of Nouvelle Cuisine these days, saying it's outdated, pedantic and not what most customers want.
Now we can keep going on like this all today, like yesterday, or we can agree that you think Polish food is miles better than British food and I think there isn't really much of a difference in the quality in most homes, and restaurants can be good or bad anywhere you go.
Oh, and just about the milk comment a few pages back ie.white water in the UK. Could it be that most milk with a red top in poland is 3.2% fat and red top in the UK is skimmed milk? That caused me confusion when I first arrived, I didn't look at the percentages, I just grabbed the blue milk and kept getting semi-skimmed.
nott
I must admit, that's not a very broad outlook. I agree on the points about black pudding (I like mine spicy), pasties, ales and, to an extent, fish and chips.
But most of the stuff you mentioned are condiments and fast food, not a great way to sample a countries food. Save cheese, and someone from Poland slagging off British cheeses amuses me. Under matured? There are hundreds of mature cheeses in the UK. Plus the variety of cheese in general is rivalled by very few countries in the world. Plus we have a much bigger selection of other European cheeses in the shops than in Poland.
who in their majority confirmed that when the Brits compared their own cooking to cooking of Polish women, the verdict was delivered nearly in awe.
Ok, let's say for the minute this was true. I think you will see that a lot of the brits on the forum have already had bad things to say about Polish food...not quite the awe you are stating. But also, how many British cooks (in the home and restaurants) have ever had the chance or the want to compare themselves to Polish women in the home? Not very many at all. Just like how many Polish people really see what most families in the the UK are cooking at home? You can't gain a proper insight into how a country does it's home cooking by visiting a few people. You do that by living and growing up there. It's hardly a comparison you or I are qualified to make.
I ate it 6 years ago in a 4 star hotel. Or the 5 star one, I always mix them up. Special function, 'the best chef they ever had'.
Ok, so you had it 6 years ago at a special function. I'll be honest, I know lots of people in the industry and most of them would laugh at the idea of Nouvelle Cuisine these days, saying it's outdated, pedantic and not what most customers want.
Now we can keep going on like this all today, like yesterday, or we can agree that you think Polish food is miles better than British food and I think there isn't really much of a difference in the quality in most homes, and restaurants can be good or bad anywhere you go.
Oh, and just about the milk comment a few pages back ie.white water in the UK. Could it be that most milk with a red top in poland is 3.2% fat and red top in the UK is skimmed milk? That caused me confusion when I first arrived, I didn't look at the percentages, I just grabbed the blue milk and kept getting semi-skimmed.
Cardno85
3 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Not many places sell Nouvelle Cuisine these days, that went out of fashion in the 80s!
What is an athletic approach to cooking?? And saying that cooking is more of an art in one country than another is ignorant and shows a lack of experience. I have eaten dinner in loads of friends houses and their mums (and sometimes dads) would come/be home and start cooking something up for us kids. They took their time and it was, most often, very tasty and delicious food.
I would say that it is a skill that is easier to learn if you grow up with it. But it is a skill and it can be learned in school, I know great cooks whose parents hardly ever cooked. But they took some courses, read some books and were a bit daring and they make marvellous food.
Tell us what's really going on, did you have a selection of bad meals in the UK and think that's what all food there is like?? Because you seem to have a very negative and, I think, unfair view of cooking and food in the UK.
ratio of plate diameter to the weight of food
Not many places sell Nouvelle Cuisine these days, that went out of fashion in the 80s!
That's what you can't grasp, the basic difference between cooking in the UK, an athletic approach, and cooking in Poland, which is more of an art than simply feeding people in numbers and on time.
What is an athletic approach to cooking?? And saying that cooking is more of an art in one country than another is ignorant and shows a lack of experience. I have eaten dinner in loads of friends houses and their mums (and sometimes dads) would come/be home and start cooking something up for us kids. They took their time and it was, most often, very tasty and delicious food.
Cooking is not a skill that can be learned in school. It's something you grow up with,
I would say that it is a skill that is easier to learn if you grow up with it. But it is a skill and it can be learned in school, I know great cooks whose parents hardly ever cooked. But they took some courses, read some books and were a bit daring and they make marvellous food.
Tell us what's really going on, did you have a selection of bad meals in the UK and think that's what all food there is like?? Because you seem to have a very negative and, I think, unfair view of cooking and food in the UK.
Cardno85
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
No, we complain about lack of variety.
Have you ever been to a fish market in the UK at 6am?? The choice is beyond compare.
You should drink blue milk, it's normal milk. If you fancy getting really good milk then get gold top...that will knock your socks off (unless you are from the country).
So if you go to a supermarket in Poland you get the best of everything in one place? I don't think so. If you want quality food at good prices you need to look for it...
[edit: everything i mentioned is available in supermarkets, unlike Poland, but I try not to go there in order to support local businesses]
Meat - the one in the shops is just poison.
No, we complain about lack of variety.
Have you ever been to a fish market in the UK at 6am?? The choice is beyond compare.
You should drink blue milk, it's normal milk. If you fancy getting really good milk then get gold top...that will knock your socks off (unless you are from the country).
So if you go to a supermarket in Poland you get the best of everything in one place? I don't think so. If you want quality food at good prices you need to look for it...
[edit: everything i mentioned is available in supermarkets, unlike Poland, but I try not to go there in order to support local businesses]
Cardno85
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
The problem I find is that if you go to what, in the UK, would be a butcher, you are getting loads of hams and sausages and still a limited choice of fresh meat. In a butcher back home there is a same space as the meat shops here devoted purely to different cuts and preparations of fresh meat.
The problem I find is that if you go to what, in the UK, would be a butcher, you are getting loads of hams and sausages and still a limited choice of fresh meat. In a butcher back home there is a same space as the meat shops here devoted purely to different cuts and preparations of fresh meat.
Cardno85
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
Yes, when I lived in Singapore they used to add sweeteners to fresh milk and bread to make children eat it more.
Bread in most countries tends to taste "weird" to non-natives. As does the milk. Just one of those things : )
Yes, when I lived in Singapore they used to add sweeteners to fresh milk and bread to make children eat it more.
Cardno85
2 Nov 2010
Food / Taste of food in Poland vs other countries [186]
And, if you go to a decent butcher in the UK, there is a bigger choice of cuts and breeds...here there is just various cuts without telling you where it's from or what breed.
Doubt it. But Polish red meat is not high quality, simple as that.
And, if you go to a decent butcher in the UK, there is a bigger choice of cuts and breeds...here there is just various cuts without telling you where it's from or what breed.
Cardno85
28 Oct 2010
Life / The Polish Dream - move out from Poland as fast as possible [73]
Exactly mate, the missus' dad, before he retired, was an experienced carpenter working for 5zł per hour...in the UK he would be on a fortune for an experienced craftsman in a skilled profession.
You are right, it's crazy in Poland about the wages and incorporating young people into the work force...but, as you said, that takes a generation to change, and why shouldn't young poles look to do better in the mean time. I know many who went to the UK, saved, came hom home and opened businesses. That will help the economy and, in turn, peoples wages. But we can't expect that stuff to happen overnight.
Exactly mate, the missus' dad, before he retired, was an experienced carpenter working for 5zł per hour...in the UK he would be on a fortune for an experienced craftsman in a skilled profession.
You are right, it's crazy in Poland about the wages and incorporating young people into the work force...but, as you said, that takes a generation to change, and why shouldn't young poles look to do better in the mean time. I know many who went to the UK, saved, came hom home and opened businesses. That will help the economy and, in turn, peoples wages. But we can't expect that stuff to happen overnight.
Cardno85
28 Oct 2010
Life / The Polish Dream - move out from Poland as fast as possible [73]
Ok, so just to be more clear, are there any jobs you know of in Poland that you can get straight from school that pay 30zł per hour? Because in the UK that is minimum wage. So you can walk into loads of jobs that will pay you that. And while £6.10 an hour doesn't sound like much, after a full week you are looking at about £244 a week. That is almost enough to pay your rent for a room in a flat. Next week you can pay your bills with a bit left over and then you have about £500 to live on/save. That is if you only do 40 hours a week, after that you are likely on time and a half for overtime (which many of these jobs require) and, possibly, tips.
Lets average that out for an average starting waiter working full time, shall we...
Weekly Wage = £244
Overtime = £90 (for 10 hours a week)
Tips = £100 (average weekly tips for me starting)
Total (for 50 hour week) = £534
Total (for a month) = £2314 before tax = (roughly) 9950zł
Now, is it really greed...or is it just looking for something better???
[edit: these are just spitball figures from when I was starting out (adjusted for modern minimum wage)...not a definative figure. Just want to give an idea of the difference.]
Not without qualifications of course. Im talking about Lawyers and jobs in the finance sector.
Ok, so just to be more clear, are there any jobs you know of in Poland that you can get straight from school that pay 30zł per hour? Because in the UK that is minimum wage. So you can walk into loads of jobs that will pay you that. And while £6.10 an hour doesn't sound like much, after a full week you are looking at about £244 a week. That is almost enough to pay your rent for a room in a flat. Next week you can pay your bills with a bit left over and then you have about £500 to live on/save. That is if you only do 40 hours a week, after that you are likely on time and a half for overtime (which many of these jobs require) and, possibly, tips.
Lets average that out for an average starting waiter working full time, shall we...
Weekly Wage = £244
Overtime = £90 (for 10 hours a week)
Tips = £100 (average weekly tips for me starting)
Total (for 50 hour week) = £534
Total (for a month) = £2314 before tax = (roughly) 9950zł
Now, is it really greed...or is it just looking for something better???
[edit: these are just spitball figures from when I was starting out (adjusted for modern minimum wage)...not a definative figure. Just want to give an idea of the difference.]
Cardno85
28 Oct 2010
Life / The Polish Dream - move out from Poland as fast as possible [73]
Really, straight from school, no qualifications, no experience?? If you know of some then please let me know, I am out of work at the moment and looking to try something new.
Good to see someone agrees :) @convex
I know plenty ;)
Really, straight from school, no qualifications, no experience?? If you know of some then please let me know, I am out of work at the moment and looking to try something new.
Good to see someone agrees :) @convex
Cardno85
28 Oct 2010
Life / The Polish Dream - move out from Poland as fast as possible [73]
Have you ever worked in a proper entry level job in Poland? Wages range from 5-10zł per hour in a lot of places for people while they are at University and just after leaving. You need to have money in he bank before you start at the bottom to work your way up. And those wages will give you very little to save...it makes taking the quick trip to the UK or Ireland a simple choice where you can afford to live and save on even a basic salary.
I can't think of any entry level job in Poland that pays 30zł an hour (which is roughly the minimum wage in the UK).
Have you ever worked in a proper entry level job in Poland? Wages range from 5-10zł per hour in a lot of places for people while they are at University and just after leaving. You need to have money in he bank before you start at the bottom to work your way up. And those wages will give you very little to save...it makes taking the quick trip to the UK or Ireland a simple choice where you can afford to live and save on even a basic salary.
I can't think of any entry level job in Poland that pays 30zł an hour (which is roughly the minimum wage in the UK).
Cardno85
21 Oct 2010
Food / Polish kishka [76]
I know, I was munching on plenty of it during BBQ season. Although so far only two butchers make it the way I like...but that's the same with black pudding in Scotland...I will any type, but I am picky about the ones I really like.
I know, I was munching on plenty of it during BBQ season. Although so far only two butchers make it the way I like...but that's the same with black pudding in Scotland...I will any type, but I am picky about the ones I really like.
Cardno85
21 Oct 2010
Food / Polish kishka [76]
Read what I said again...I said it was doubtful you could find blood sausage on a kosher website which you find is not wrong.
Kishke is made of beef intestine and ground meal (by accounts of wikipedia, I am no expert on Jewish cuisine) which is not the kiszka I presumed people on this Polish forum were referring to ie. Kaszanka.
Read what I said again...I said it was doubtful you could find blood sausage on a kosher website which you find is not wrong.
Kishke is made of beef intestine and ground meal (by accounts of wikipedia, I am no expert on Jewish cuisine) which is not the kiszka I presumed people on this Polish forum were referring to ie. Kaszanka.