News / Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland [490]

@Amiga

People who are patriotic-nationalistic, right of PiS etc., don't dabble in usury, pandering and elderly fraud. Or perhaps we have different definitions of what being a patriot means.

Kaczyński was convinced precisely because he later realised that he will be able to manipulate Nawrocki with all the kompromat on him. The entire secret of Kaczyński's political longevity is his security cabinet where he holds 'haki' on all his men.

Anyways... *yaaaaawn* ... what happened will not unhappen, so there's no use crying over spilt milk. People who voted for Nawrocki voted for permanent conflict instead of normal, peaceful development. The irony of their choice is that it is they who will suffer, not those who voted for Trzaskowski. We will be quite all right, no matter who the president happens to be.

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Well done, Novi.

If you posted only in the abortion thread and gave up all your activity in the Russian invasion one, you would be one of my favourite posters. :)

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Certainly not in the academic sense. Nawrocki's PhD mentor was Grzegorz Berendt, and Dudek and Polak his reviewing committee.


As independent as a puppet on a string.

Why do you think Kaczyński chose N. as his candidate? Precisely because he has such 'haki' on him that Onet's revelations pale in comparison. He will be yet another Kaczynski's ballpen.

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Pigs will fly sooner than that happens.

Unless, of course, PiS comes back to power and takes over the judiciary, then anything is possible.

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Again, the fact that a guy like Nawrocki will be Poland's president is a major embarrassment and a slap in the face of every decent Pole. Of course, Warsaw's Szambelan wouldn't be perfect either but at least somewhat less embarrassing.

Why are Tusk and Kaczyński such twats? We could have a presidential race between Sikorski and Marek Jurek, Andrzej Nowak or Czesław Ryszka (real Catholics and patriots) and I would vote for any of the three in the second round, but K. and T. had to choose two muppets for their candidates, and the worse muppet won. Horrible.

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Anything to avoid calling it a child? It's evil to kill a child but it's OK to dispose of "embryo" or "foetus", right? Nice nazi thinking. Mass murdering people is also horrible but if, instead of 'people', you call them "Untermenschen" or "Ungezifer"...

Perhaps you spent too much time in Germany, Alien.

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Kosiniak-Kamysz or, even better, Sikorski. Tusk is finished. He f*cked up big time with the elections and the consequences for Poland will be disastrous.

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That and the fact that hundreds of thousands of leftists decided to vote for Nawrocki rather than Trzaskowski: about 20% of 1st round Senyszyn voters, 16% of Zandberg, 14% of Hołownia and 10% of Biejat! This tipped the scales to Nawrocki's side (he only won by 370 thousand votes). Go figure - leftists voting for Nawrocki like proverbial chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.

Also, it should have been Sikorski from the start, not Trzaskowski who already lost one elections to Duda and is a president of Warsaw (a capital city is rarely liked by people in other regions), but Tusk wanted someone more easily influenced, so in the end he got what he deserved. It's a shame and embarassment for Poland, so if Tusk has a bit of honour, he should now resign as PM.

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Your USA-Poland analogy is almost perfect. Almost.

You are wrong in the part that I highlighted. The progressive and the conservative side may indeed consider each other "irredeemable idiots" but in Poland there is no real hatred between them.

Do you think Ironside hates me? Do you think I hate Korvinus? Think again. This is Poland. We can argue and fight between one another but should a foreigner raise his hand against one of us, 40 million will strike him back. Sure, Podkarpacie are a bunch of hillbilly rednecks but try to hurt them and Pomeranian troops will be all over you like a honey badger on a cobra. Deploy a landing force on the coast of Gdańsk, which those hillbillies consider a modern version of Babylon lol, and Podkarpacie riflemen will give you hell like in 1920. So, if Владимир Владимирович is counting on one day invading a divided Poland, he'll be sorely disappointed.

EDIT:

Why is the election thread closed? I wanted to brag about the results in my beloved city...



... Gdańsk forever! :)

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:)

Sense of humour is important.

If you don't know how and what to think about Poland's new president, just imagine that Kaczynski is the new president now (Nawrocki is only his marionette).

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Not a buddy (at least not right away) but definitely a soul mate or a mental equivalent.

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One person is certainly happy with the elections' result. I'll give you a hint - he likes three things: botox, ice hockey, and bare-chest horseback riding.

Those who voted for Nawrocki can wear their onucas with pride and apply to Novichok for the membership in Putin's fan club.

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Well, what can I say...

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More so than Kaczyński and Nawrocki.

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Not funny.


I am probably the only 100% pro-Polish consistent poster here, always for the best interest of Poland. Of that you can be sure.

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I used to respect you, Iron, but with this one sentence you just earned your place in the same league with Strzelec. Well done.


Plus more thugs in the presidential palace and state-run institutions, presidential pardons for PiS crooks and thieves, and of course Nawrocki himself is beyond the reach of the law now. President can only be judged by the Constitutional Tribunal, and it's not going to happen. Again - a sad day for Poland. We are moving away from the European mainstream and closer to Belarus and Hungary.

I don't hold it against Braun and Mentzen voters that they voted for Nawrocki (93% and 90% respectively). It was easy to predict. However, the 10% of Biejat voters, 14% of Hołownia's, 16% of Zandberg's and 19% of Senyszyn's 1st round voters might have problems looking into the mirror in the coming years.

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A very sad day for Poland.


Listen, teddy bear. "Middle-aged city dwelling dandies" will be quite all right, no matter who happens to be the president. As for the rest of you... your primitive prejudices, hatred, resentment and envy have just made Poland weaker and more vulnerable. Hope you're proud of yourselves.

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No, he's not. Do you think every politician you disagree with is Jewish? Interesting psychological phenomenon.

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What is that supposed to mean? :)

Did you really vote for Narwocki? It means that you think the missing letters here...



... are PRO.

Congratulations. Hopefully you and your ilk are in minority.

@jon357

Sometimes the count is quicker in certain comissions in large cities, there's no rule really. The USA, however, is surely already counted and they definitely voted for Nawrocki. It will probably swing to Nawrocki, then back to Trzaskowski and will stay there. I'd say 51,5% for the Warsaw's president.

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Fingers crossed.

The USA voted earlier, so in early counts it might swing to Nawrocki but hopefully common sense won and we will have Rafał Trzaskowski as our president.

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In godless countries perhaps. They will all receive their reward, in the lake of fire, where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.

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That's not a distinction, that's a thesaurus entry.


More like...

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:)

That's the plan, Alien. That's the plan. That's why we have to stay as a fully integrated part of the core EU to change this Marxist-ridden union into something better one day.

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Ordoliberalism, with families - as building block of every healthy society - heavily subsidised by the state built on traditional values and Catholic Church's social teaching.

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Hmm, so they were the real rebels and we were 'good boys' swallowing official state propaganda? Well I never...

But maybe you're onto something. This and the desire to shock the older generations. Good thinking, BB. :)

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Not to Crow I bet! I can imagine him being a Slavic-pagan skinhead in 1990s Novi Sad. :)


Incomprehensible. Especially that we were raised on Polish and Soviet war films in which nazis were always legendarily black characters. Oh, well... human mind is a great mystery.

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Let me, therefore, explain.

In the 90s skinheads in Poland were divided into three groups (well, three main groups anyway). Nationalist-Catholic - my bunch, we listened to Legion and were Polish nationalists without any ubermenschen, Arian, nazi nonsense; national-socialist (what one would call neo-nazi), they listened to Blood and Honour and they somehow managed in their heads to reconcile being Polish and nazi lol. These two groups didn't exactly love each other (to put it mildly). There was also a third group, Slavic-pagan (Tejkowski and Sztorm 68), and some of them evolved into weird leftist communist skinheads - a strange minority.

Did I go to football games, fight police and opposing teams' fans? Sure. And today, when I look back, I am neither proud nor ashamed of it. It was testosterone mixed with a healthy dose of youthful stupidity. Also, years of watching war movies and playing war in the playground played their part too. Children are raised a bit differently nowadays.

One thing that I have to say though is that my skinhead pals were the best comrades one could ever hope to have, and two of them are still in my closest circle of friends. They both have higher education (one of them received a ministerial award for his MA thesis) families and good jobs, and don't have any criminal record apart from a few short detentions before or after football games. In case of Nawrocki it's different; his pals were/are(?) regular gansters, criminals and pimps, and he seems to be not only proud of it but also still unhealthily fascinated with his former(?) mates.


Exactly. Baranki Boże, a funny skinhead band from Słupsk, even had a song poetically entitled 'Narkomańskie ścierwo'. :)

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Did I? I must have been drunk. ;)


Not at all. He even spoke against it in European Parliament recently, saying that some EU regulations have led to unacceptably high energy prices in certain countries, which could undermine Europe's competitiveness against economies like the U.S. and China. Your boy Mentzen would have said exactly the same thing but they would dismiss Mentzen in Brussels whilst they listen attentively to Tusk who is very critical of the Green Deal as well as of the Mercosur agreement (and is forming a coalition against the idea in its current form).


Geez. Tusk really is your boogeyman, isn't he? :)

In reality his government has adopted a strict stance against illegal migration and has implemented several measures to reinforce border security and control migration flows - going as far as waiving the right to apply for asylum for those who cross Polish border illegaly, for which he was criticised severely by various European leftists, but he doesn't give a toss. :) Also, Tusk has firmly opposed the European Union's Migration and Asylum Pact, particularly its relocation mechanism. He stated that Poland would not accept additional migrant quotas, emphasizing that the country has already taken in a significant number of Ukrainian refugees and cannot bear further burdens.

He is an old cunning fox, Tusk - the older and wiser I get, the more I appreciate him.

The other things that you and Amiga mention are straight from PiS gadzinówki like 'Sieci' or 'Gazeta Polska' and I have no time for such nonsense. Actually, it's 7 pm already - I have to do some work for tomorrow. See ya later, guys, and don't you dare vote for Kaczyński's ape.

In case I don't have time to post tomorrow, and the electoral silence starts at midnight on Friday, I shall leave you with this beautiful piece of poetry:

Lepiej z gówna zrobić skręta,
niż z alfonsa prezydenta.

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Indeed!


As it usually does! Fides et ratio non sunt contraria, sed mutuo se amplexantes and all that. Damn it, Iron, how can you be so right on some things and so annoyingly wrong on others? ;)

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Are you really in position to make such judgement, Iron? :)

Андре́й Никола́евич Колмого́ров, a famous Russian mathematician and a Hero of Socialist Labour, contributed immensely to the field of information theory. From his works, if I properly understood them, we can conclude that if a robot's algorithm is simpler than the description of a more complex robot, it cannot fully simulate or explain it. In other words, a simpler robot may lack the complexity to simulate or understand a more complex one (or to call him a cretin). ;)


Be more precise. Give me a concrete example of what you think Trzaskowski can realistically do as president for that to happen.

Or... on second thought, don't. Live with your fears if you're comfortable with them.


Oh, that. For your information, I rejected the offer (for reasons that I shall keep to myself).