News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

In 2019, the Ministry of National Defense ordered the M142 HIMARS self-propelled rocket launchers from the USA. The contract was worth USD 414 million (approx. PLN 1.7 billion) and included 20 launchers (18 for the combat unit and two for training) plus, among others, ammunition, training, spare parts.

Last year the Ministry of Defense expressed its willingness to purchase as many as 486 HIMARSs, including 18 on American chassis and 468 launchers alone to be installed on Polish Jelcz trucks. In February, the US State Department agreed to sell them for a price of up to $10 billion . Negotiations for this contract are currently underway.

So far, the first launchers ordered in 2019 have arrived in Poland. In May, we received seven pieces in two batches. We saw six of them, manned by soldiers of the 1st Masurian Artillery Brigade, during the parade on Wisłostrada, the seventh stood next to the honorary tribune.

The 155-millimeter K9A1 self-propelled howitzersare - like the K2 tanks - the work of the South Korean defense industry and the fruit of agreements signed in July and August 2022. They provided for the division of the contract into stages. In the first one, we ordered 212 guns for USD 2.4 billion (approx. PLN 9.6 billion) with deliveries spread until 2026. After that, the modernized version of the K9PL is to be produced in Poland.

At the moment, the first stage is under implementation. Deliveries from South Korea began in December 2022 and, as recently calculated by the editor Marek Świerczyński of the "Polityka" weekly, 48 machines are already in Poland. 14 K9 howitzers participated in the parade on Wisłostrada.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]


They collect the support of about 10 -15% of voters. Not enough to turn Poland into Russia`s ally.


I reject endeks coz they are fascists and potential murderers. They love dealing with their opponents by burning them in a locked barn, like Jews in Jedwabne. I refuse to be burnt. Do you feel what I know???


Yes, some are. But certainly not their current leadership who hadn`t predicted massive Western aid for fighting Ukraine and all those sanctions which are slowly turning Russia into a fallen state.

News / Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland [559]

PiS has sent the referendum plan to the Parliament. They changed two of them:

Let`s see:

the first question "Do you support the sale of state-owned enterprises?" was changed into

Do you support the sale of state assets to foreign entities, leading to the loss of control of Polish women and men over strategic sectors of the economy?"

They changed it after their dirty deals with Saudi Arabians had been publicised by the oposition:):):)

The second question "Are you in favor of increasing the retirement age, which is now 60 for women and 65 for men?" was changed into

Do you support raising the retirement age, including bringing back the retirement age of 67 for men and women?".

I still don`t know whether to take part in this referendum or not. I need to check what my guru Political Genius Brilliant Prime Minister Mr Honourable Donald Tusk says about it.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]


Yes, we know. If Poles decided to turn to Russia`s side, Russians would thank us on their knees.
But Poles don`t want to ally with Russia. Such a character. Born with it. Sucked with mother`s milk. What can you and we do about it? ):):)


hahahaha Forget it. Russians are suspicious by nature even more than Poles.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

Contracts for South Korean K2 tanks were signed by the ministry in July and August 2022. They provided for the delivery of 180 vehicles manufactured in Asia for USD 3.37 billion (approx. PLN 13.5 billion). Then, from 2026, the production of tanks in the new K2PL version is to be launched in Poland.

The new, Polish configuration of the South Korean tank remains in the sphere of plans for the time being. The fact is, however, that the deliveries of subsequent batches of K2 started in December 2022. By June, a total of 28 wagons arrived on ships. That's it for now, further deliveries are planned for 2024 and 2025.

All delivered K2s went to the 20th Mechanized Brigade in Bartoszyce, specifically to the tank battalion in Morąg (Warmińsko-Mazurskie Voivodeship). Soldiers from this unit paraded along Wisłostrada in the strength of a company, i.e. 14 tanks. That's half of what we currently have.

The Leopard 2 tankis a construction known in the Polish Army for a long time and now - after the deliveries to Ukraine of post-Soviet T-72s and their Polish modernization PT-91 Twardy - probably the most numerous. In total, we acquired about 250 such vehicles from Bundeswehr stock in two tranches in the first and second decade of the 21st century. A novelty for the general public was the debut of the Leopard 2PL variety at the parade. This modernized version was created by the forces of the Polish defense industry in cooperation with the German industry. The work is significantly delayed, but from May 2020 the modernized units are sent to the army. At the end of last year, 45 tanks were delivered. We saw 14 of them, i.e. the entire company, on Wisłostrada.

The parade was also attended by Leopard 2s in the A5 version - eight of over a hundred owned. However, there was no oldest version of A4. It is the Leopard 2 company in this variant that we promised to give to Ukraine at the beginning of the year.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

The Polish Army Day was an opportunity to recall what modern equipment Poland already has and will receive in the future.

Bobko, enjoy abundant open source info. You will get a bonus from your boss!! hahaha

Ground forces are more exciting so let`s start with them:

One of the latest acquisitions of the Polish Ministry of Defense is the Abrams tank produced in the United States. In April 2022, for USD 4.7 billion (approx. PLN 19 billion), the Ministry of National Defense ordered 250 such vehicles in the latest M1A2 SEPv3 version. Deliveries are scheduled for 2024-26.

In January 2023, the ministry signed another contract for Abrams - this time 116 vehicles in the older M1A1 version, from US Marine Corps` stock. They were to quickly fill the gap left by ex-Soviet tanks, which we gave Ukraine in a large, although officially unknown number, so that it would have something to fight with Russia.

Under the latter contract, deliveries began this year. At the end of June, a ship that brought the first 14 tanks moored in Szczecin . They went to the 1st Warsaw Armored Brigade in the Wesoła district. From there they all went to the parade.

According to the announcement from June, another batch of Abrams tanks (42 tanks) is to be delivered to Wesoła at the turn of August and September, and the next batch (60 tanks) - by the end of the year.

tvn24.pl/polska/defilada-w-warszawie-swieto-wojska-polskiego-co-pokazala-armia-7292375

History / Polish Army Day [82]

Probably not coz there was no air police in the vicinity.

News / Unfulfilled promises by PiS [559]

Mr Prime Minister Donal Tusk published a map of Europe with GDP data. Poland has been affected by the deepest fall. While Tusk was in power, we were a green island on a similar map. Today, we are in glaring red.

Thank you, PiS!!!

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History / Polish Army Day [82]

One pilot of a newly-acquired F50 plane was taking photos or making a film. Amasing! Fortunately, this plane has a crew of two....

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News / Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland [559]


Probably there are, in the Amazon Forest or in Greenland among Inuits.

If I wanted to imply that all rightists are morons, I would say rightards.

News / Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland [559]


Not fully yet, because we are still viewed as Eastern European peasants thanks to PiS and other rabid nationalists.


Really?? Oh my Goddess!! Excellent!!! More, more!!! hahahaha


That`s what I said yesterday. Those cretinous rightists and nationalists first lash out at the EU and then whine we are treated as Easter European serfs. I will never understand how one can be such an idiot.

History / Polish Army Day [82]

Allies in celebration
The parade on the occasion of the Polish Armed Forces Day was also attended by soldiers of the allied forces - Americans, British, Croats, Romanian and Italians. American Abrams tanks (the ones in the latest version that we ordered and are waiting for delivery), Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, Paladin self-propelled howitzers, British reconnaissance vehicles, Romanian Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns and Croatian Panzerhaubitze 2000 guns drove along Wisłostrada.

There were Americans in the air on F-35 multi-role aircraft and AH-64 Apache helicopters. The Ministry of National Defense emphasizes that both types will "soon" appear in the Polish Army.

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


Both sides have problems. Russians have run out of their gigantic supplies and have to be more economical now. Ukrainians use 8000 shells daily while Russians 10.000.

As for private gun ownership, sorry, this would be off topic. :):):)

History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]


Most probably.


Rejoice coz I again agree with you. Ha!

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


I think different. This money is a good investment into Poland`s safety. The weaker Russia gets, the better for us. You must admit that each day of war weakens Russia.

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


I mentioned these comments to prove to Bobko that his endeavours to sow ferment between Poles and Ukrainians are completely futile. A few days ago Bobko told me that Ukrainian forums are full of anti Polish opinions. I replied it is the dirty work of putinist trolls who are doing their best to fuel conflicts between tow nations.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Exactly. But they still work nicely and are modernised by Polish industry. .

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

Our invaluable poster Paulina provided a link to the Ukrainian channel showing Polish Army Day parade in Warsaw today. I am reading comments, mostly by Ukrainian. All of them are incredibly grateful to Poland and Poles. Ukrainians thank us for material and moral help and support.

Glory to the Polish Army and the entire Polish people, for the support of Ukraine

Glory to Ukraine!

youtube.com/watch?v=mSrWw0DJSRU

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]

I think nobody mentioned that Germans offered us about 250 Leopard 2 tanks of different versions. Very cheaply or even for free. Amasing!

History / Polish Army Day [82]

Putinist Russian commentator said about the parade:

This is an attempt to demonstrate Poland`s capabilities to Russia and Belarus (...) I believe that Poland is trying to show everything it has received, hoping to put pressure on its neighbors.

Minsk is part of the federal state. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the territory of Belarus will be defended in the same way as ours. We will not be afraid of this show of strength. We are waiting for it. If Poles move (to Belarus - ed.), their equipment will burn , even those made in South Korea, he declared.


Amasing!!! :):):)

History / Polish Army Day [82]


You think so??? :):):)

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [332]


Physically, mentally and morally impossible. Nobody could win the war except righteous Americans. Guess why. :):):)

Language / When do I use certain characters? [33]


It makes perfect sense. Other words sound the same in declination: Potrzebuję kłonnicę/siekierę. Kłonnicy/siekiery would sound strange. Gumi, where did they speak like you are suggesting???


And hundreds of others.

History / Polish Army Day [82]


Not only Abrams, other too. Nice gesture.

Comments under Ukrainian video:
Poles with us, Glory to Ukraine!
Поляки з нами слава Україні

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Life / Polish fences - complete anthology [74]

In post one I mentioned 4 kinds of fence. Now one more has come to my mind - natural. But those decorative trees are seldom on their own, mostly are enhanced with a proper fence.

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Language / When do I use certain characters? [33]


I always said torebkę. Torebki sounds akward.

So, it depends on the region.

Life / Polish fences - complete anthology [74]


Tresspassing private property was punished with imprisonment in England, then Great Britain. I still remember that British family series with a scene how a forester caught a group of kids walking in a private forest. It took place in 19th century. He wanted to take them to prison. They were terrified and I was shocked.

The same with the US. Trespassing may cost you life from a private gun.

So, people in those countries have learnt hot to behave.

And in Poland? What were the consequences of trespassing? Zero.... :):):)

Life / Polish fences - complete anthology [74]

Here is a typical Polish village (not modern suburbs) in drive through view. 95% houses are fenced.

History / Polish Army Day [82]


Of course. Some pieces of armament, e.g, Abrams, were carrying Ukrainian banners next to Polish ones. Small, but still.


I was looking forward to it, too. History is more attractive than modernity. :):):)


Thank Goddess they weren`t warships!!

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]


Not so easy. This dislike of Russia posing an imperialist threat to Poland is too deeply ingrained in minds here. Poles suck it with their mum`s milk, sort of. Just like antisemitism in case of some Poles. :):):)