Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


If you talk about Poland completely disappearing from the European maps, I agree. The simple annexation of territory was nothing out of the ordinary in Europe, though. Alsace-Lorraine and the like come to mind.

Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


The Romans adding Greece to their republic in 146 B.C.

Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


Nonsense, Dan, and you know it. Conquering and annexing territory has been a human trait since the times we lived on trees. You cannot seriously claim that expanding your own empire at the expense of another country is fine and normal as long as we don't talk about Poland. Poland disappeared from the maps and nobody cared - simple as that and nothing out of the ordinary. It happened a million times before over the centuries.


Some parts of Poland were annexed by Russia, Prussia and Austria-Hungary, with Napoleon installing a puppet state of the French Empire for a short period of time.

Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


No consent for being conquered and annexed? Snicker ...
Since when are the weaker ones asked whether they want to become part of a larger and stronger empire? If we would follow your argument we would have to come to the conclusion that the Roman and British Empires (for example) were totally illegitimate and everything they stood for was pure evil. Well, the world doesn't work like that as we all know. Even if some nationalists of Polish descent would like to convince us of the opposite... :)

Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


You mean between 1807 and 1815.


Genealogy should be completely neutral and free of politically motivated thinking (for example: the Duchy of Warsaw is not Poland, Prussia is not Germany). You simply file your ancestors under the name of the territory they were living in at the given time.

Genealogy / All Future Polish Genealogy Researchers: Please Read before you start a thread [45]


Historically wrong, no matter how hard you try to rewrite history. The Polish territory was annexed by the three nations and the whole world acknowledged that status quo. Well, except for Turkey that is ... which was probably waiting for their own chance to invade...

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

You know, there are so many different arguments out there...

americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/AmericaUnderTheGun.pdf
nytimes.com/2013/04/03/us/report-links-high-rates-of-gun-violence-to-weak-laws.html
blogs.rgj.com/factchecker/2012/12/22/do-more-guns-lead-to-less-crime
nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday-review/more-guns-more-killing.html?_r=0

My personal opinion is that guns are simply not necessary in this country.

History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]


This forum would be called German Forums and you would be complaining about anti-German propaganda?

Life / Bribery and corruption 'fact of life' in Poland? [152]


Who determines what constitutes an "insult"? That whole concept is nonsense and dangerous.


For what? Insulting Poland or a Pole? Good luck with that.

History / How different would WW2 turned out if Poland accepted Hitler's offer [219]


Britain and France wouldn't have declared war on Germany in the first place, so possibly no WW2 on European soil. And if Poland and Germany would have attacked and defeated the USSR and started an attack in the west, Britain wouldn't have stood a chance anyway. Britain only survived the war because the Russians did the blunt work of the fighting on the ground for them, and because their colonies helped them out (again). Woulda, coulda...

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Too bad that your law abiding citizens all too often become criminals the very moment they use their legal guns.

Genealogy / Search for Zacharias Pfingst born in Biskupiec (Bischofsburg) [2]

You might want to look for the protestant church books of Bischofsburg, Ostpreussen, Kingdom of Prussia. The LDS has the relevant ones on microfilm:

werelate.org/wiki/Source:Bischofsburg,_Ostpreu%C3%9Fen,_Preu%C3%9Fen,_Germany._Kirchenbuch,_1792-1944

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


If you talk too much about where you've been, you are stuck and won't be going anywhere in the future.

Genealogy / Woloczyn or Wolosczyn: Am I Polish? Help [22]


German ... definitely German ... :)

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


You are discussing with the wrong guy, Polson. This is what he said in a similar thread in off-topic:

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


ROTFL!

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Yeah, that's a disease amongst lawyers - pretending not to understand... ;)

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


What part of


didn't you understand?


The only time I care about heritage is when I do my genealogical research. Otherwise I give a flying hoot.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Poles and Germans walked a very long way together; they share a lot of their history. That's what they owe each other.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


While most other nations still need some time. What about the Poles? Are you there yet ... ? :)

(just kidding)

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Yeah, many Poles had the same weaknesses after '45, I heard... :)

Seriously though: there's not much support left in Germany for the commies, and even less for the fascists. File it under bad experience.


Depends on whom you ask, I'd guess. Erika will call it "The stolen territory" or "currently under Polish administration", the rest of the country doesn't care. WW2 is over, people have moved on, and there are not many nostalgics left if you know what I mean. That's at least my impression when I talk to Germans.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [451]


Because we established already in a different thread that "Regained Territory" was a dream of the fascist ND, which had been picked-up by the commies after the war. Germans are done with the reds, the brown-shirts and both their propaganda; certain Polish circles obvioulsy not. :)

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


You only asked where “godzilla853” found the map...

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


It's a word play ... Downunder = Australia


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe#UN

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]


Leave us people in the north alone with this issue... ;)

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]


Legally they were not immigrants, but people on a temporary work visa. Citizenship in Germany (and other European countries) is largely based on a principle called jus sanguinis (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis), while citizenship in the USA for example is often based on jus soli (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli).

History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]


This is an urban myth which is quite popular amongst ultra-nationalistic Turks. Turkish workers came to Germany in larger numbers only after 1961, so years after the so-called Wirtschaftswunder. They have nothing to do with the rebuilding of Germany after the war. Those that actually helped were mostly Italians and to a smaller extent Greeks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastarbeiter
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaftswunder
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany

Quote:
"The first Gastarbeiter were recruited from European nations. Turkey however pressured the Federal republic to allow their countrymen to become guest workers.[4] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, was opposed to such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too big..."

Ironic, if you think about it...


It is sad, but it's a two-way street. Many of them (even second or third generation kids) have chosen to be Turkish first, and then ... nothing ... and then German ... maybe. The Turkish prime minister Erdogan even gave a speech in Germany a few years ago in which he demanded from the Germans of Turkish descent not to integrate. Says it all.

Travel / Sites with interesting photos of Poland [24]


Thanks, Iron.


Here you go: ordensland.de/English_Version/english_version.html

Travel / Sites with interesting photos of Poland [24]


Yes I am, but Zetigrek put some time and effort into the search for pictures, so naturally I thanked her. Good manners and all that, you know ... ;)

The first source about Poznań was quite interesting, by the way. Lots of photos from the pre-war era I haven't seen before. I'm still searching for images of rural towns and villages in the Poznań -> Tuchola -> Plock triangle though.

Travel / Sites with interesting photos of Poland [24]


Thank you!