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Ironside   
5 Jan 2013
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

You are wasting your, my and all members` time with such silly answers/posts.

Silly? No!
Do you have any back up to your feeling that Poland's factories, manufactures and industrial capacity was a junk in 90% as you say. Do you have some work at your disposal based on numbers, data and facts not propaganda, wishful thinking and lies?

If you don't then your claims based on personal experiences are worthless - do you understand that? Poland's customer services, entertainment industry, distribution and food marked could be inefficient and in disarray. However those are not all what constitute economical strength of a country.

Can you estimate without such data a potential ability of Poland's economy to adjust and change without destroying, demolishing and selling its industrial base out. As it was a rhetorical qestion - of course not!

so you silly claims to have all the answers because you have some recollections of 1989 events are hilarious.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

I see what you mean, you have been sold a lie and you don't even realize it. No wonder that after 20 years you stick to your imprinted propaganda's "truth", it wouldn't do good to your self esteem to admit that you have been blindfolded and fooled for so many years.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

Of course, not everything was worthless. I guess only 90% industry was junk. :):):):)

How do you know it? You still haven't answered my qestion.

Nope. Ironside must be

Stop fantasizing about me it is an unhealthy habit.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
News / RUSSIA TO MAKE PUBLIC THE KATYN FILES... [274]

Rather predicatably, he was labelled a fascist by them. He also got interned by the govt, keen to keep good relations with Stalin.

So nothing new under the sun.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

Am I slow or what?

No I'm just kidding! See the link where Russian squirrels kill a dog.
I guess that it was jon's metaphor for areas of woodlands and areas of predominant meadows and pastures. If so he is wrong but honestly I don't know what he wanted to say.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

This is discussion forum his gut feeling do not count! Are you twelfth Zibi? So far you have avoided my qestion/.

As for economy - implying that all what was build during communism times in Poland by the magic of 1989 become overnight worthless junk that Poles shoudl be grateful if somebody agreed to dispose off is a biggest lie and propaganda there was and you all 12 years old have just bought that lie and you are stuck with it for better and worse.

Unfortunately your mental or intellectual problem in overcoming such imprinted lie is not my concern. So in the future try ti be more specific and argumentative without resorting to so called common knowledge.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

"Europe of Squirrels" and "Europe of Rabbits"?

Rabbits and hares are almost never found to be infected with rabies and have not been known to transmit rabies to humans.[

The red squirrel also has the ability to swim.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4489792.stm
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
Law / Poland economy is slowing down - how does it affect you? [117]

but I knorow that Polish economy was totally devastated by the dying communism of 1980s

How do you know it?

Everything what Solidarity experts, economists and politicians tried to do after 1989 can be called one giant improvisation.

I would call it demolition or/and sell out!

Mistakes were unavoidable

Really? Like let all those commies to take advantage of their position or letting selected people make money on the state property - officially sanctioned theft.

than Ukraine

Ukraine was part of the soviet Union an organic part. Poland was separated soviet country like Czech or Hungary but with any privet sectors and farmers. You comparison has no merit here.
Ironside   
4 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

Indeed it is, for many reasons - culture, cuisine, economics, etc.

You are not giving any arguments, it is just merry go around of your stubbornness.
Ironside   
2 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

Most of them, Paulina.

Most of what? You mean that you can find all types of western historical architecture in Russia?I presume you are not talking about later copies.

Anyway jon Poland is an Eastern European country (except geographically)but not for those reasons you mentioned.
Ironside   
2 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

that Poland isn't in Eastern Europe, despite culture, cuisine, tradition, language, history, architecture, landscape, economic output and geography.

We have established already that placing Poland in the Eastern Europe has nothing to do with those kind of reasons. Geographically only ignoramus can claim that Poland is Eastern Europe. As for cuisine, in Poland a German dish is commonly sold as Polish cuisine. If you mean perogis those you can have in Italy and China. Certainly not eastern European countries.

Realpolitik place Poland in the Eastern Europe and that is that.
Ironside   
2 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

rolly not the best choice of illustrating Polish cultural closeness to its neighbors to the east, but i couldnt find another so fast.

Stop that BS berni! It make you look like a fool. not that you are not one but still..
Ironside   
2 Jan 2013
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1090]

In purely geographical sense Poland is situated in central Europe. Problem is only in precisely pointing out what is and what is not Central Europe, a problem that do not have in Americans where such geographical features can be clearly distinguished.

Other than that we can talk about Europe in political sense when all those cultural and economical features already mentioned.
In after-mentioned order place of Poland fluctuate.
If one take imperialistic (some prefer to call it realpolitik) look at Poland and others countries in the region, they belong to the Eastern Europe. In short none of those countries is a big player in the international politics neither is an economical power.

In the sense Germany before WWI was called Central Europe and Austro-Hungary whose lands where shifted to the east comparing to present Poland was also Central Europe.

Meaning there is the west and the east (Russia) and in between there is Eastern Europe which is a kind of a play ground for those two. Once it is western foothold and more often than not it is eastern foothold.

Of course for Poles with their culture, history and aspirations they situated themselves in the Central Europe. The land when Russian and German powers and influence would be negated by rising sun of Polish power. So far it is only true in their half-realized aspirations and in culture which is neither eastern nor western.
Ironside   
12 Dec 2012
News / Kaczyński stirs up hatred between Germans and Poles. [20]

I don't care about them, you may call it tolerance! I
I'm just explaining to people who do not understand that there is difference between newspapers article and reality. A Call for ending disparity between rights of German minority in Poland and Polish minority in Germany is not string up hatred.

The fact that posters in this thread did even bother to read a link started to express their hate to JK!

In his visit to Opole, on Saturday, 8th December, Jarosław Kaczyński stated that, “Germans in Poland should have the same rights as Poles in Germany.

Gee paragon of hate, siring, how dare he/ it is clear that Germans in Poland should enjoy privileges whereas Poles in Germany should be grateful that they are allowed to live there!
Ironside   
10 Dec 2012
News / Kaczyński stirs up hatred between Germans and Poles. [20]

Oh really, what desperate, hateful twat he is.

how come?

but doesn't make that dumbsh*t any more likable

what do you care?

Hes a lame duck with a redneck flock.

come,whats your nationality?

I don't think this kind of thinking is consistent with the values of most Poles

What values?
Ironside   
7 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

ut even if we assume the same ppl are in charge today's Poland is not PRL.If you ask anybody(missing PRL or otherwise) they would tell you that it's not the same in 90%

Well monopoly in media, fiances, soon there will be one party or three parties but no differences between them, over-depended and exploited by the EU! I would say that in all what counts it is PRL-bis except for the fact they people can legally keep their money and high life!

In this manner yes but creating administration to fight with corruption when in fact it's a tool to get more power

Correct me if I'm wrong but parliamentary commission didn't find anything of the sort!

I think that system in Poland should be overthrown!
Ironside   
7 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

In every country you have corruption but fighting with corruption shouldn't be treated as a tool to gain political power

Well that sounds good but what it actually means? If you are saying that PiS was doing something illegal and wrong in that regard you shoudl bring on some examples!

No,by making enemies from our friends(or at least neutral

Sorry?

They finally had enough.

With mass media help to be sure!

Laws their created and atmosphear in which they ruled.

You mean you were afraid to bribe somebody?lol

I ever heard.In what manner today's Poland has enything to do with PRL?

There are different circumstances but the same people are in power! Also favoritism, mediocrity, bureaucracy.
Ironside   
7 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

Every second since they arrested someone.

We can argue to and fro about the details I say they should put her on the ground and cuff her and you insist that shoudl watch her better - I agree they ****** up!

the consequences of creating and using such forces "na kolanie"(on a knee-fast and not to neatly.) and for political reasons.

Political reasons? Do you claim there is no corruption in Poland? I think it was a very mild solution, if somebody wants to get involved in corruption on any level should be punished - that is simple enough! I would make a law - if you cannot prove where your money come form you are investigated!

This is the excuse of every person that doesn't have friends-It's not that I'm mean and stupid

That is manipulation, who cares for excuses? Political and financial worlds are driven by self-interest, nobody is going look after Poland's well being!

PiS made a mess from international relationships.

You mean by stepping out of line?

It's a wonder then that they never did it in the past.It was the only time teenagers protested Minister of Education.

Exactly my point!

It depends on the teacher.How come there are teachers that never have a problem with discipline

Come on, of course they have and had problem with discipline! It is happening all the time especially after so called reform!

his other ideas that screwed things up.

Ah you are ideological ally of Harry! Well ...

PiS has nothing to do with it.If you're refering to these words

See there is something I don't understand you said that the most important is to keep PiS put of power and yet you do not vote PO - it doesn't sound quite right!

-I lived here when PiS was in charge,I had to follow their rules

What rules?

I felt bad in my own country

If you are happy in PRL-bis then there is nothing I can say!

Well intellectually, you would certainly pass for a Russian

Oh really/ You should be grateful to Russians because otherwise you and your kind wouldn't exist!

Like I said, no proof means that you,

Yes i cannot be bothered because you would say that I took those words out of context!
Ironside   
7 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

If that's not incompetence then I don't know what is.

Gee I already greed with you they should cuff her right away!

And as tp the Vip person-everyone has the right to go to bathroom

Yes, after they are in the cell not in their own place!

So they are not credible.

Well in some cases their are and in some not - Boni admitted being a snitch!

Also The Netherlands,UK and France.

So ? Do you care? Poland has the right to the Independent policy!PiS wasn't doing anything bad, all has been used to Poland sucking up to them - so they didn't like when she stopped!

You just stated that during Giertych's rule it was going ti the right direction.

He just put some measures to prevent teachers being intimidated and humiliated by their pupils! That was step in the right direction!

And teenagers were following Tusk order?Why should they?They were protesting because they saw what was going on.

Are you kidding me? They sow *****, they were following media and were incited by others means as well! Anyway it wasn't that common!

What this has to do with my understanding

If you see PiS not being in power as the main reason for your vote than you do not understand much, unless you have some arguments other than - their are bad they made a mess and all that generalizations imprinted by the media!

No, by anybody who can think reasonably, which clearly doesn't inculde you.

Reasonably? You do not think reasonably end off!

No, he did not.

Sure he did! Whats the matter you should be happy about that and become Papua or Russian err maybe German if they would take you!
Ironside   
6 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

I found the quote, and what he says is perfectly reasonable

You mean it is deem reasonable by the likes of you!

No I can't, because as you perfectly know, no such quote exists because he never said anything of that sort,

Of course he did - I'm not sure whether you can find it on the PF or not but indeed he said what he said!

And I fought that their job was to watch her

No they job was to arrest her and they failed by giving her VIP treatment!

They had many publications that were semi-professional.

So many others institutions but I have already agreed with you they do submit to political pressure- like in the Jedwabne case!

ppl asking them what this whole mess is about.

Germany using press to influence politics in Poland!

I don't think so.I remember this period pretty good and I'm really grateful that it ended

Why?

First you accused me that I didn't have enough knowledge to make a statement

Maybe our views differ! I think that Polish education is going to the dogs!

First you say that it was great that they were able to do it

I was being sarcastic,because demonstrations in democracy are something normal but inciting pupils to take part in the political campaign is dirty!

I may complain about many things but never about the fact that PiS is no longer in power.

Well, if that all you understand from politics then I do not think that your views matters!
How come you post about 100 posts a year!
Ironside   
4 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

If you are correctly reading what I say, then you are lying about what I say.

So what are you actually saying ? Do you know yourself/?If you do just spit it out1

League of Polish Fascists is a common nickname for the Liga Polskich Rodzin

How common? Is there more people using that than you, your friends and Sierakowski?

In my soap opera they showed how a women-still not proven guilty-had the oppurtunity (under CBA watch) to commit suicide.

Yes, they should put her on the ground and cuff her not paying nice and letting her go to the bathroom or do you actually bevies the she was shot by them?

I already told that it was political tool and many historians stated that IPN historians are not credible.

Yeah I see what you mean they said that Jedwabne was committed by P{oles, still they flushed out some insolent snitches like Boni!

Communicating?It was rather yelling at their opponents.It was for show not information.

Possibly both!

That's a wonder then that when I met a guy from Holland the first question (when we started more serious topics) was "What's going on in Poland?"

Why? You should ask him not me!

And I thought it was because Poland was in political mess.

Well you thought wrong.

As I said I was studying pedagogic at that time and had family members attending to every level of education.

Well that hardly qualifies you to have a such strong opinion on the subject.

Actualy it was Giertych who told the teenagers that they will face consequences.

As they should! Using teenagers to do their dirty job - nice!

And I don't complain although I never voted for PO.I definately prefer today's political reality.

That good, and please remember in the future not to complain! Do you vote at all?
Ironside   
4 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

Those of us who live here know that accusations of corruption are sometimes made for purely political reasons and cases of corruption are sometimes ignored for purely political reasons.

other than that there is no corruption besides few odd cases! Am I reading you right?

the League of Polish fascists

there is no such organization and never were! Would that be a lie?
Ironside   
4 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

No,not media,by the governments ideas.
CBA,IPN,constatnt accusations,3 press conferences a day.

I guess in Poland there is no corruption or you mean you were living your life watching soap-operas and you were brutally remained of realities in Poland - that is scary indeed!

What is wrong with IPN? At lest people know whom they vote to power!lol Need to show their gratitude to all those snitches like Boni!

Constant accusation who was accusing whom and of what? Sun of Peru was well known to lead in silly and unfounded accusation but then it was Kaczyski's fault! I wonder how people can vote on such will-less Tusk when JK is his puppeteer?! lol

3 press conferences a day

Government communicating with people? Present gov do not need press conferences because press knows what to write in advance - improvement don't you agree?

Teenagers protesting

well you are right should send tanks on those bastards how dare they protesting!actually any protest such be nipped in the bud by ABW! Tusk will correct that blunder - protestors place is in jail!

Giertych stupid ideas

Well according to people who actually have a clue about education it weren't stupid ideas!

,almost daily humiliation in international circles.

What international circles? apart form Germany and Russian who have vested interest in Poland no other country gives ***** about Poland. If some internal Polish matters were published much in some western mass media it was because of:

1 ideological friends helping friends in Poland
2some circles in Poland with monies and contacts to have editorials published!

I presume that you have a quote for that? And preferably not taken out of context?

do some work for a change it will do you good!

Can you quote Palikot saying we must abandon our Polishness ?

Well, you can find it on PF!

Duck-face and Putin are definitely spun from the same history and have similar power fulfillment tactics.

Stick to your property bubble or somebody may qestion bubble in your head!gee
I'm sorry !I'm simply taken aback by the sheer ignorance of his/her post!

.And after all Poles decided.

I hope they are aware they cannot complain now?
Ironside   
4 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

When PiS ruled the government was suspicious and ppl were scared.

Yes by the scaremongering media!
Ironside   
4 Dec 2012
News / Poland's PiS = suspicion & fear? [70]

Really, who are these people! Name one

Palikot

you fat ugly small liar.

WTF? Did you think he was talking about Tusk/ well he said that Polishness he always associated with abnormality.