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Ironside   
23 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

I follow the principia of Polish eastern policy as laid down after the WW2 by Polish aristocrat Jerzy Gedroyc, an exile in Paris, he himself born in Minsk, today's capital city of Belorus.

By theoretician about theoretical political idea a one which even hasn't been now and original. He was counting on grass root development in the Soviet Union where potential and real nationalities would rebel against Soviets under the banner of their national idea and national state. In such hypothetical situation he wanted Poland to rather help and support those movements than trying to regain her territories.

It was an abstract construction very wobbly at best with no standing. In fact Soviet Union crumbled from the top to bottom nothing like his predictions.

In fact such dogmatic principles are just pure nonsense. Pure dream stuff.

he poster I was replying to was just naming people who beat him in the arguments he starts.

From what you said to WB it is impossible as you are not partaking in debates.

As opposed to all the towns and villages in the land Poland stole from Germany

Harry do not lie again, Poland naver stole from Germany any lands.
Ironside   
18 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

I suppose you mean Schlesien?

Mind your own business instead of trolling.

Because their bricks were stolen to rebuild Warsaw.

Yeah all three of them.

When were you last there? In the summer of this year it didn't look any worse than Lublin starówka. Much larger though.

Who do you think paid for restoration? I will not tell you find out.
Ironside   
18 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

No, almost all cities to the left of the Odra survived WW2 without damages.

Some survived but many were destroyed and needed to be rebuild. Not to mention cities in central Poland which were destroyed for the most part. When it comes to the cities on the stolen territories majority of historical building and cities have been left almost intact. So don't lie here Pavilec as you are know to post here just to spread your vile lies and anti-polish bias.

As for Ukrnian taking good care you must be talking out of your ass. It was taken care/or not by Soviet Union and we can all see in what state is Lwow after 20 years of Ukrainian rule, those historical building are about to crumble.

And medieval Poland took Silesia from Bohemia. Who's clever now?

Not you as you are confusing stuff.
Ironside   
17 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Exactly. They lost their colony - poor and back warded - and got in return rich Silesia,

What colony? What kind of BS is that?
Poland lost their lands, in 1939 Poland has no colonies. Rich?Poland lost coal, oil, natural gas, potassium salts, rock salt, iron ore with those territories.Plus cities haven't been destroyed.In Silesia many cities have to be rebuild from scratch. Sure there are some natural riches but as I said sobiski and you do not listen. It wasn't exchange it was robbery. Getting Silesia has nothing to do with Losing Lwow.
Ironside   
17 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

What is the difference between your daydream of getting Lwów back...and Stettin, Breslau etc. returning to Germany?

You are making it personal. It is not personal it is only right for Poland to get back her land. Poland has been by her allies and left on the mercy of Soviet Union which not only stolen her lands but enslaved her for over 50yeras.

Also are asking a wrong qestion. The only thing that those two issues have in common is Poland and commie propaganda presenting it as a compensation for land stolen by the Soviets.

As nobody is asking for return of Alsace to Germany why should they asking for Breslau?
Differences:
a.Poland have been a part of the victorious coalition and won the WWII. Germany have been belligerent power who lost and capitulated unconditionally, meaning that all consequences faced by Germany after the war they have no right to complain about. What more given atrocities Germans have been gulity of in Poland renders any complains as a brazen insolence.

b. Polish land has been taken by traitorous Soviet union which cased to exist, all those new states are brand new and not a continuity of some political entity. On those territories there were only two states Poles and Russians, Poles defending and Russian grabbing. So likes of Ukrainian or Belorussian have no real right to those lands bar right of possession at the moment. No Polish government accepted and agreed to cease those lands to those new countries. Whereas Germans did in case of their lands.

c. Germans lost the land that belonged mostly to Prussia, it is substantial lost but it is not fatal, main cities and major cultural areas vital for German identity are mostly left intact in Germans hands.

Whereas Poland has been hacked in half and half of their territory with major Polish cities and areas vital for Polish cultural identity have been stolen. After all the borders from 1921 has been already a compromise.
Ironside   
17 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Yes they are.

You can reaped that as long as you want it doesn't make it so.

They don't want that either - all they want is self determination without Putin trying to manipulate their country.

It is more complex than that, there are three distinctive areas with different attitude towards Russia, independence of Ukraine and the EU.
On the territories that should belong to Poland chauvinistic Ukrainian attitude and will to join the EU and stay away from Russia is strong.
In Ukraine per se including Kiev majority of people are pro Independence but their attitude to the EU and Russia vary. If they could say away from Russia without joying the EU that would be their goal.

On territory that east and south east of Kiev the majority of people are for close ties with Russia and they are OK with Ukrainian independence as long she will stay away from the EU and NATO.

Honestly I don't understand that interests in Ukraine. I would think that the EU is not really interested in Ukraine joining the EU. After all realistically speaking they cannot expect to became a part of the EU for at least 20 years.
Ironside   
17 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

To be honest I do not see connection. Sure commies were making that propaganda about alleged connection between those two separated issues but they have been doing that for a reason.
Ironside   
17 Dec 2013
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Do you think Poland would be able to get wilno, Brest and lwow back

Sure it is only right.

Seriously?

What is has to do with anything? Commie arguments nothing more.

Brest

Brzesc!
Ironside   
12 Dec 2013
News / Are the Germans taking back Świnoujście? [22]

Ironside, although technically Poland was one of the countries in Europe NOT to be occupied by the Nazis, this by no means signifies that there weren't as many collaborators as there were resistance fighters!

Would you kindly provide sources to support your claim otherwise I will treat that for what it is - an unsubstantial and unlearned view.

We should all be concerned that someone takes articles in Gazeta Polska seriously.

Would that depended on contests of those articles.
Ironside   
9 Dec 2013
Food / Polish Christmas Eve Dinner recipes [84]

Apart form Christmas Even Dinner being big in Poland there is traditional Polish Christmas Day Dinner:
Roast goose with red cabbage and potatoes,
Ironside   
8 Dec 2013
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]

I wonder if they were Polish or German. Daberkow probably comes from the village name.

If you are talking about DNA there are not discliy Polish or German DNA. If you are talking about they identity that probably changed in time and if they have been your ancestor you should know better then anyone here were they Polish or German.
Ironside   
8 Dec 2013
Life / Conflicting views about life in Poland? [45]

At times it seems they are, especially when I glance out from a tram or bus at the line of cars adjacent. The cars look to be new or just 2 or 3 years old.

Majority of cars in Poland are about 12 years old.

When I went viewing to rent, the owners seemed like 'ordinary' Poles every time.

Foreign investors as buy and sell -to make money not long term investors. At one time in 2007 prices of apartments in Poland piked by 1/3 of their previous worth due to activity of foreign short term investment funds. Some of those investors have been buying from developer for all crop and selling with profit to individual customers be it foreigners be it /Poles (mostly Poles)

If somebody have bought an apartment for inflated price right now will not be hasty in selling especially if negative equity is lurking.
Yes, it is relatively expensive to rent apartment in Poland but that is not what I have been talking about.

Well, not sure which part of Wro you're in, but seems even when I go to the 'poorer' areas' blocks, the cars in the car park outside seem to resemble the stock of a new or nearly new car showroom

Could be that what you are talking for a new cars are cars after serous accident in the west, bought for next to nothing by Polish mechanics and restored to their former glory. Look nice but it is not real McCoy,
Ironside   
8 Dec 2013
Life / Conflicting views about life in Poland? [45]

Indeed so, yet I look out on to the streets here and see new car after new car,

Surely they are not majority.

How is this possible? Bank loans? Family money? The cost of living here is not so cheap when local wages are taken into account. So, frankly, it's a mystery to me.

Poles discovered credit and bank loans.Plus there are few people that can afford new cars. As for apartments developers are hoping for takers and their greed has been whetted when foreign investors and foreign companies upped Polish estate market.
Ironside   
8 Dec 2013
Life / Conflicting views about life in Poland? [45]

thank you for giving me your time , waiting for real answers .

I think that is yet another poster in long line of real trolls.

my question is WHY

Because Polish government and ruling class is derived from Soviet scum and they do not care about this country but about their scummy businesses, in fact that know no better, In effect Polish average decent citizen is being scammed three times a second everyday. Government, rules and everything else is hostile towards Polish decent citizen. The only thing Government provide is employment for its voters.

I check about the economy of Poland all I can see is growing country and it has fast growth !!

How did you check Polish economy? Cause that is clear BS.

Most poles that I chat with are sad and depressed of being in this country

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Small wonder.

are a lot of countries that have lower life standard and ****** social life than Poland is like middle east !!

How would you know?

Poland is member of European Union since long time

It is not the same EU Poland aspired it changed into yes-boy machine for European corporations and Banks. Not long time about ten years.

and all I know it keeps growing especially in technology field !

How could you possibly know that?

! I have noticed that people keep looking to live in expensive countries like west

Expensive is a qestion of perspective, for most Poles Poland is expensive and they are looking to live in all those countries because there is nothing for them in Poland. Those countries with aging populations welcoming young work force especially they didn't paid for costs of their rearing from kids to adults.

That's often because they wanted all the benefits without any of the risk or the stress.

They wanted decent wage not benefits.
Ironside   
3 Dec 2013
News / Are the Germans taking back Świnoujście? [22]

I'm sure they are. I think that practice of buying properties in somebody else name should be exposed and punished.

I would like to ask who that article implies that Poles expelled German alone after 1945 and why commie newspaper have been presented as a Polish newspaper?
Ironside   
30 Nov 2013
News / Poland and Germany should unite, says Lech Walesa [113]

Serbs are less popular than Egyptians, even Russians. They like GERMANS much more than Serbs

They don't care about Serbs and heard about Germany. Given a fact that pro-German propaganda is on full blast in Poland and that 89% of the press is in German hands it is hardly surprising.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2013
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [78]

Does the United States also use the example of Polish expansionism as a case against imperialism?

Stop that nonsense.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2013
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [78]

So to answer your question: almost nobody in Australia or the USA gives a hoot about German, Polish or Japanese history - unless we talk about WW1 and WW2 of course.

OK?Tell me something /i don't know. I mean to say - so what?
Ironside   
26 Nov 2013
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [78]

es, but I'm quite sure that early Polish history isn't taught outside of Poland unless it is somehow interconnected with another country's history. Like the Hanseatic League for example or the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. If you think about it, why should it? Australian history is probably not part of Polish history classes either.

Interestingly though, except when talking about WW2, Poland is never mentioned in history classes in the west as far as I know. Spain, Britain, France and some other old nations, yes ... Poland, no.

So what are you saying?
Well, is early history of Germany taught in Australasia? If Poland history is not taught in history classes about history of Europe on Uni it means that is a poorly prepared and not nonprofessional courses. Anyway lately Universities are mostly interested in propaganda especially on courses classified as Art.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2013
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [78]

You mean in English speaking countries. There could be several reason for that. Firstly Anglo countries where never interested in this part of Europe and expect say Renaissance they had a vague idea what going on there. Secondly once England became a Protestant country they have been budding their identity in opposition to Catholic countries in that climate some cultural influx or exchange of ideas have been rather stifled. They knew a lot about Prussia and England has been supporting Prussia for a long time, naturally Prussia has been Poland's enemy and has been viewed in the light of Prussian anti-Polish propaganda (Thorn).

Last but not least was the fact that most of 18th century (about 1730) Poland has been Russian protectorate. On the top of it Poland didn't existed as an independent country during XIX century, that century which seen formation and birth of new nations and new states like Italy, Romania and Germany. Also XIX century have been a peek of European imperialism with colonies all over the world. Poland missed all that due to partitions.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2013
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [78]

For starters Poland is an European Country while Russian is not and never were. Poland has been an old European nation Kingdom on the European continent a power along with Spain, France and Hungary constituting a core of mainland Europe.

Asking about Differences between Poland and Russia is like asking for Differences between France and England.