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Ironside   
14 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

. The current government are working with the same situation that any other party would - except PiS would simply duck the issue or make promises that they could never fulfil. Or hope that prayer would solve the problem.

Assumption ?

That's just nit-picking.

For you ! For an 66 years old man with health problems and without substantial savings that is a real life and death issue.
Ironside   
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

Ah right, you are back, I have forgotten all about that.
I mean you could work it out for yourself.
Ah! for starter :

culture.pl/web/english/resources-literature-full-page/-/eo_event_asset_publisher/eAN5/content/jadwiga-staniszkis-post-communism
Ironside   
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

That would be difficult because nobody studied that angle of Polish history/ society.Secondarily your question is very general and you expect specific answer.

Infrastructure, Poland's infrastructure would have been something else if not for history and communism. There isn't any mark/label or company connected with Poland ie Polish regardless of numerous inventions made by XIX century Poles, the most notorious which comes to my mind - is discovery of industrial use of oil , also fist oil wells were situated on what use to be Polish territory. However other state made the use out of this discovery with minimal gain for Poles !

Next, territorial - Polish borders are always questionable due to history.
Communism, all industrious and talented people were either forced to immigration or made little use of. Privet enterprises were punished, people were spied upon and brainwashed in a way and on scale you American cannot begin even to understand.

How that affects Poland and people today ? First of all Poland is a poor country ie most people are poor. there is no elite, country is poorly run, by post-colonial clique, corruption is rife and either you are part of the system or your business especially successful is going to be busted by better connected boors,

Poland have to play that catch up game with other countries - why because of communism!
Poland's development as a country is seriously impaired because of history and communism you have been living in Poland for four years ? gee !
Ironside   
14 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

I would never put word logic and thi

That clearly proves that you don't know what logic is !

nd just a

Cannot be bothered with a withe noise !
Ironside   
14 May 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

ll this thread is going to generate is the typical Polish defenders who simply cannot take any criticism about their country.

That is only your sensitivity and lack of understanding !

Yes indeed Poland was scarred by the Soviet occupation and all the previous history.
Ironside   
14 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

I'm making a point for the benefit of those readers who cannot be bothered to read all threads and all posts in a thread.

Just because you say he's not doesn't mean he isn't, once again playing the man and not he ball.

Oh !? man up will you, once again playing with balls...

Yes, Kaczyński also wanted to introduce retirement reform, but hey! who remembers that!? It was in 2008, ages ago!

By the virtue of the same logic because Kaczynski uses toiled that activity must be suspicious and condemned!
Ironside   
14 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

Silly.

billy ?

E.g., Germany, Norway - 67.

Norway correct !
Although I must add that in the western countries average life expectancy for males is about 8 years higher. In practical terms it means that average male Polish pensioner can enjoy his retainment for about 4 years while his Norwegian counterpart about 12 years. I would say that is the substantial difference.

Germany ? wrong!
That is typical sloppiness of PO so called experts !!!!!!:(
Currently retainment age in Germany is 65, however starting this year retainment age will be gradually growing for a month (for 12 years) and then two months for another six years. So, in the year 2029 retainment age in Germany will be 67.

UK, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark, Belgium etc etc - 65.

Again Sweden - 61, although law allows to work those who want till 67, freely chosen !!!Also policemen and fireman can retire at the age of 58!
What do you mean ect ????
Other countries in Europe;
Finland - 63 !
France - 60 (will rise in 2018 to 62!)
Italy - 57 in 2014 will be 62!
Czech - 60!
Hungary - 62
Lithuania - 62
EC has given some recommendation as to increase of minimum retainment age but one again Tusk bunch of thieves and greedy morons goes to use it as a pretext to rob the nation some more.

As it was with VAT, then with payments for few unfinished highways and now with a new retainment age.
Coffers must be empty, four years era of orgy and blind robbery come to an end.
It is desperate move, that new "reform" gives government about billion zloty per year.
They are desperate indeed !

Because the efficiency of Polish workers is still lower than in Western Europe

Because managers are shity and their efficiency is low.

However, wages are higher in the old EU but the cost of living too. Don`t forget it.

slightly, I would say that wages are about five times higher in the old EU than Poland whereas cost of living is about twice as much.

Now, I expect rational arguments from you.

Back to old tricks pawain ? It was you not me who lost

rational arguments

debate
and it is you not me who should be worrying about his credibility !
I'm not saying that pension system in Poland is perfect.I think it should be changed long time ago. Unfortunately there were nobody able to do it and what is presented by the Tusk government is not any reform either but primitive and simple attempt at saving some money for gov budged!At the expense of hard working senior citizens.

Another factor I forgot to mention but quite obvious - where all those people will be working ?eh?
You do not expect 66 years old zipping up and down scaffolding ? or digging coal at the fore ?
eh?
Ironside   
13 May 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

One word of commentary: stinking hypocrites!

Yes a good comment to your political posts !Do not pretend to be impartial!
Ironside   
11 May 2012
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [538]

It is definitely a great success of the government.

Late retirement is standard in Europe today.

A Great success ? Why don't they ship all people to slavery and than sell the land, that would be even greater success, and think about monies you and your cronies could make on that 1

Sure, late retirement is standard in Europe eh? Where exactly ?
What about jobs for those old people ? What if they cannot get any job?
Also minimum wages are higher in Europe like four, six times, Why government is not focusing on align to those standards eh?

Maybe because they have no monies and they are desperately trying to find dosh anywhere !
Ironside   
10 May 2012
Life / Polish patriotic music! [44]

Translate that :

Bij bolszewika w każdej go postaci,
bo to jest twój największy dzisiaj wróg.
To przecież on kościami twoich braci,
brukował sieć swych niezliczonych dróg
To przecież on na Sybir gnał twe dzieci,
a z jęków ich wesołą składał pieśń.
To przecież on dziś naszych ojców gnieci,
i każe im komuny jarzmo nieść.
To przecież on w katyńskim ciemnym lesie
wbił w polską pierś znienacka ostry nóż,
mordując tam najlepszych polskich synów
jak podły zbir, nikczemny zdrajca, tchórz.

Song sung by those fighting against Soviets after 1945 on the territories you call "ukrainian"!
Ironside   
26 Apr 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

I am sure it is not, but whatever the country letting them into government would be a bad idea.

What kind of system you have in mind ? In Poland criminals and traitors were let into government recourse people were voting them ! So, why not insane ?people are voting them :D
Ironside   
25 Apr 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

Not surprising really, they are insane.

Insane in clinical sense or insane because you says so? Would you tell me (out of curiosity)what facts tells you that their are insane.

By the way is it a standard procedure to hate and prosecute insane people in your country?
Ironside   
25 Apr 2012
News / The Political Circus of Poland [309]

Too funny!

not really, there is a real hate campaign aimed at PiS in the media.

They run about threating Russia with war then complain about a comedy magazine cover. Nutters.

You misunderstood something, the point is there is nobody in Poland who would sort out all that mess and that trash in power at the same time, sad.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

erm,yes I do.

I have no problem with facts, nor opinions (of others, you present) even if some are debatable, I do have problem when you armed with few opinion you found in books and come up with the opinion of your own extraction.

More often than not you are wrong.

You seem to have this weird idea that there is an ultimate *truth* in History, good luck finding it.

Not necessary truth but the inner logic and order. You seem to think that it is a wild-field anybody can roam free !

You however just spout out the opinions of others based on what exactly

In this thread ? I presented you with facts, you claimed that some freedoms in the middle-ages and during tribal times were inclusive for England or the British Isles. I just proved you wrong.

The linear aproach to education so beloved by nations who have little history of innovation I guess.....

Jumping to and fro like a mad frog doesn't make your approach innovative but rather mush-mushy. What are you imply? Poles and no innovations ? Have you been bitten by a mad flea ?

Anyway whats linear education ? If you meant linear approach to history it only further illustrate that you have no clue. Nothing we discussed in this thread has anything to do with linear history.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Thats all History is dumb dumb.....

Nope you are dumb dumb ....
Seriously the fact is you have no clue, you have your opinions,

Yes,ironside, FACTS. Unlike your OPINIONS

Facts and opinions my Yorick. I have no issue with facts, problems is that you present here facts, opinions and then your opinions.
Ironside   
20 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

And here I enter my own belief system, which is no worse than yours - just a belief.

See mister know it all. I could write down why I know what I know and all. It is not based on my discussion with family. Consequently I will not post anything overtly personal on the internet.

You consequently refuse to understand that you are talking about something else and I'm talking about something else.
Those maths Olympiads in no way reflect state of the Polish education.
Anyway judging from the way you writing here, you are in your late 50s, leaving in Canada, I'm not going to change your perspective and open your eyes on the sad truth.

I will not even try. What for ?
I let you feel good about that maths thingy. You don't need all that hassle do you?
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Yet it does not stop you from voicing your nonsensical statements away.

You are entitled to your view which stem from the fact that you have no clue about Poland and especially about Polish education system.

alling those girls the geeks is demeaning and suggesting that "Polish education system is being constantly dumbed down" is baseless.

I wish those girls all the best. Still Polish educational system is being constantly dumbed down.
You ignorance is so deep that you are unable to differentiate between a group of gifted kids being coached all the way and average level of education in the country.
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Ive already told you *our* Kings were controlled and First among equals for around a thousand years before that.

I said already to you, generations for thousand of years are not possible, also in medieval times for Europe the fact that Kings were depended on their barons and knights is a truth for all Europe. You are not discovering American here.

When talking about specifically about without referring to them as knight or barons nobles we tend to think about timetable form the XVI century upwards.

Prior to that the same was true of the Brithannic Chieftens, men elected to lead not just entitled by birth,even when entitlement by Birth came in *our* Kings were getting deposed left right and centre since the late 11th century.

hardly nobles ! typical freedom people in tribes, also quite typical in the northern Europe for that period and social order.

As the Mod said irons, calm down dear, its only history, its not as though you or I had anything whatsoever to do with it......

You said that you are not making comparison or evaluation of nobles form both countries, and then slam you are doing what you said you are do not doing. - that one !

Again you make a total mas from the subject discussed. Your examples are just unordered mess of amassed fact and opinions having no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand. - that two!

In your edition is not even history but collection of interesting stories,, few facts from the past and gossip.
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

Which is good when you consider that now that Poland has both PO and Palikot for the younger more intelligent voter

Go back to our booze, politics is not your forte !
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Nobility is nobility - the majority of the szlachta were not. They didn't fit the socio-economic model, they were unable to sustain themselves as a privileged group, and their numbers were too large even to be a viable elite.

Nonsense! Whose model they didn't fit? They were perfectly able to sustain themselves. I think that you are focusing too much on the XVIII century.

One again, nonsense. The fact that there were many considerably poor nobles doesn't change the fact that there were many well off and quite few whose lands and fortunes on par with some independent countries in Europe. Not to mention Spanish hidalgo poor but proud noblemen, or French owners of titles pigsty and ruins of castle, proud nobles as well, For your country, somebody father could be living in poverty and forced to work for food but his son could be a heir to estate and title, would that make him less noble, eh?

I think you are annoying on purpose.

And I have already shown this is utter garbage in a previous post,at least when it comes to the nobility on the British isles. So re posting just shows again your lack of understanding and lumping of a

You have show nothing ! The systems were as different as they come due to the fact that Polish knights evolved into citizens of the nobles republic in the XVI century whereas English knights dissolved into aristocracy, land-gentry and freeman each with distinguish rights.

The forum is not place to analyse what happened in the curse of next two centuries.
However your claim that your are not boasting whose medieval boys were batter is empty cause that exactly what you are doing.So let me tell you something - **** off ! Our nobles were free citizens, and your monarch could done away with your, at lest before rebellion of Cromwell when they installed elicits protestant regime with monarch as pimple on the a...!

We had President called King and free elections - stuff it in your crack pipe and smoke it MR pot!

Calm down, Iron.
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Nobility is an English word. Most of the szlachta were not noblemen.

Well from the point of view of Polish not-noblemen most of western or eastern nobles were not real nobles or not fully nobles because of them being sheets any monarch could wipe his ass with !

Sure Polish system was unique as was Polish feudalism (if we may use that word) unique but basically noblemen originated as a fighting elite of a country with rights and duties and their code of honor and their land. All European nobles and aristocracy stem from that! Many countries had their own variation on the theme, Polish one was more interesting than some.

Coming to conclusion that Polish nobles were not nobles it is nonsense !
Ironside   
16 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Nevertheless Poland still holds its own in international comparisons

he Polish girls' European maths Olympiad team

You can always find few geeks doesn't prove anything.
Also dumbing down doesn't bid well for the future.
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

and he definately kooked Asian,with dark yellowish brown skin,and he was short,and did not look White at all

Don't say ! What wrong with you people ? It is as somebody would wonder are you Americans all black? My grandfather had a dark skin and his parents where from the USA!

Do you see error of your way, now?
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

What on paper is called a democracy is all to often something quite different in reality -

There are and were different devices and shapes of democracy.

One other (that was told to me a few years ago, by a Polish academic, was that the szlachta were those who considered themselves to be Polish. The peasantry didn't have that same identity - their sphere of experience was more regional.

That would be only byproduct of social and political system and generally speaking not a rule.