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Sokrates   
1 Aug 2011
History / Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ? [515]

Warsaw Rising 1944 - National Disaster or Triumph of Spirit ?

Both, you actually managed to sum it up pretty well, the former does not preclude the latter.

If Poland simply waited for the inevitable German vs Soviet fight to the end - she could have waited and waited until the Soviet overstretched their supply lines in the race for Berlin....and then BANG.

not only was the Red Army not depleted its rear lines in Poland were protected by over 600k troops.

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Sokrates   
22 Jul 2011
Love / Polish women are the most beautiful in the world! [1718]

Also before you say I'm a gigolo she has over 5,000 friends on FB, so I doubt she even remembers I exist. haha

Her face is weird but her boobs are f*ckworthy.
Sokrates   
20 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Nie wiem o czym ty mówisz Pawian,to jakieś twoje gierki jak zwykle zresztą... :(
Sokrates   
19 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Pawian nie bardzo rozumiem o co Ci chodzi, czyli my Polacy nienawdzimy Żydów i Żydzi muszą nam uświadomić że ich nienawidzimy?
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Mamy? A znasz kogoś kogo sobie zawłaszczyliśmy czy pieprzysz co ci ślina na język przyniesie bo jesteś kompletną ignorantką?
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Z tym trudno się zgodzić, zwłaszcza jeśli mamy na myśli XX wiek. Żydzi, czy Polacy żydowskiego pochodzenia (jak kto woli), byli podstawą polskiej literatury (by wsponieć tylko Brunona Schulza, Juliana Tuwima, Jana Brzechwę czy Bolesława Leśmiana) jak i przemysłu rozrywkowego.

Brzechwa był Katolikiem i tak samo jest z mnóstwem pisarzy i innej maści twórców pochodzenia ponoć żydowskiego, Żydzi mieli i do dziś mają brzydki zwyczaj przyznawać się do każdego słynnego człowieka i dorabiać mu buty których nie nosił.

Ameryce jesteśmy obojętni. No i dobrze.

Skrót myślowy bzi, Żydzi amerykańscy nas nienawidzą, między innymi za to że chroniliśmy Żydów polskich kiedy ich amerykańscy ziomkowie się na nich wypieli.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

A to już pytanie nie do mnie ja już dawno w tych tematach nie pisze, w pewnym momencie zorientowałem się jaki jest ich cel i dałem sobie spokój.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Torq bądżmy szczerzy obaj żyjemy w Polsce i wiemy ile nas Polaków obchodzą Żydzi. Żygam Jedwabnem, zupełnie nie obchodzi mnie znikomy wkład Żydów w kulturę Polską ani to że tu żyli.

Jest słońce, jest życie a mi jeden z drugim smutasem przypominają o tym że tu stała synagoga, a tam usmażyli rabina a jeszcze tam Berek Joselewicz bohatersko pierdnął w kierunku Niemców podczas powstania w getcie.

Jednakże... jeżeli miałeś na myśli Polaków wyznania mojżeszowego, którzy zostali wyrżnięci przez nazistów.
Jeżeli to ich losy i historię Polacy mają, według Ciebie, "w dupie", to obawiam się, że Twoje stwierdzenie
wpada sobie spokojnie do trzeciej kategorii prawdy, Sok.

A kto się nimi przejmuje? Wyborcza! Paradoksalnie temat żydowski jest podtrzymywany przede wszystkim przez Żydów podczas gdy Polacy chcą po prostu żyć.

Często odnosze wrażenie że wtłacza się nam do gardła przymus czucia winy, płacenia pieniędzmi i ukłonami a że my Polacy mamy to gdzieś i sobie żyjemy tym bardziej Izrael i Ameryka nas nienawidzi.
Sokrates   
14 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Ten cytat powinien być "sticky" na PF także wszyscy co załogują wiedzą że większość anty-żydowskiej propagandy na PF jest bzdurą.

Bo Ci się podoba? Czyli rozmowa o komunistach i mordercach żydowskich jest antysemityzmem? Rozmowa o antypolonizmie żydów podczas interbellum jest be? Całowanie w rączke i koniecznie podkleić bo Ci się podoba!
Sokrates   
14 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Nie myśle że PF jest antyamerykańskie albo antyżydowskie ale olbrzymia ilośc wątków i tematów tutaj jest przeciwko Ameryce i przeciwko Żydom.

Pieprzysz, 90% tematów celuje w Polskę.
Sokrates   
13 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Przyznam że trochę mnie to zastanawia bo Bogiem a prawdą większość Polaków ze mną włącznie ma żydów i wszystko co z nimi związne głęboko w dupie a mimo to tematów jak mrówków.
Sokrates   
13 Jul 2011
Po polsku / O co chodzi z tymi Żydami. [144]

Zauważyliście że w sekcji anglojęzycznej, szczególnie na forum historycznym obcokrajowcy notorycznie poruszają temat żydów?
Sokrates   
12 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Czy Ukraina jest bezpiecznie czy nie? [7]

Raczej nie leży w interesie Ukraińców napadanie na turystów.

To niewiele Ci wiadomo.

Czy Ukraina jest bezpiecznie czy nie? Nie znam nic o Ukrainie. Będziecie jeźdźić do Euro 2012 w Ukrainie?

1. Nocuj zawsze w hotelach i motelach unikaj wszelkich prywatnych mieszkań i gospodarstw agroturystycznych, kradzieże i napady szczególnie na wsi i w małych miastach są powszechne.

2. Nie zostawiaj samochodu w odludnym miejscu i upewnij się że wszytko jest legalne, szanse na odzyskanie skonfiskowanego przez policję auta są często minialne.

3. Nie wynajmuj prywatnych przewodników, chyba że to Polacy, istnieją całe gangi ukraińskie skoncentrowane wokół wciągania turystów w przysłowiową bramę.

Generalnie Ukraina jest niebezpieczna, Ukraińcy kradną, napadają i wszczynają pijackie burdy ale jeśli będziesz się trzymał większych miast i miał się na baczności powinno być OK.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German. [71]

Why isn't PiS printing this picture in millions of copies and flooding Poland with it? ;-)

Essentially because nothing can be proven, after all this time we'd need documents from the camp he stayed in and we aint finding those anytime soon if ever and allegations are not enough.

Don't tell me that means Wehrmacht...

Ah my bad sorry i always get that word wrong unless i take my time to write it carefully.

'According to', 'we don't know', 'supposedly', 'an implication', 'no documents exist either way' etc etc. 'Is shrouded in mystery' sounds like a conspiracy. Geez, Ukrainians sided with the SS. Are they now German too? ;)

Ukrainians were never visited by Hitler on friendly terms nor did they get out of a Concentration Camp in a Wehrmacht uniform, hell no one did!
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German. [71]

Sean her facts are checked, researched and backed by records and testimonies, they're also all given in the book to recheck them if need be.

Thats to say there's other sources like Gustloffs manifest which indeed lists Tusks grand-aunt and her kids as passengers.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German. [71]

You're suggesting as a guard? lol

I'm not suggesting anything i'm posting facts.

Tusks grandfather was in a concentration camp occupying an unspecified position, no prison papers can be located even though intact records of the camp have been recovered.

He was drafted into the german army which never happened to polish POWs or slave laborers which in concentration or labor camps, ever.

Those are the facts, whether he was a camp guard or something else remains unknown but his stay at the camp is shrouded it mystery.

@Mafketis.

"Dziadek w Wechrmahcie" is the book to read, Szczypuła compiles archival evidence, among other records of the fate of variou members of the Tusk family, the book is factual which makes it a good if a bit dry read.

There's more sources but she effectively compiles the most important bits of them all.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German. [71]

He was a Kashub, who signed volksliste, wasn't he?

Thats a very mysterious fact, we know that Józef Tusk was in a concentration camp, the mysterious bit is that we dont know in what character he was there, supposedly as a prisoner but no record of his stay exists anywhere, from there he goes to Wechrmacht.

The case becomes even more spicy when you realise that Wechrmacht did NOT recruit Poles into their ranks from concentration camps so there is an implication that Tusks family had an active part in German crimes against Poles but no documents exist either way apart from the very vague register of arrival.

Interesting, I didn't know it... Anyway I think that more important If he is a Pole, German, Eskimo or whatever else is that he is working against interests of Poland and Poles.

Its pretty important, there's an implication that Tusk comes from a family with Nazi roots and hid it on purpose, thats pretty big.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Genealogy / Former Poland PM Donald Tusk - A Kashub or a German. [71]

Edited..comment removed

Donald Tusk, the current prime minister of Poland has a very interesting and mysterious history.

Some facts.

Donalds Tusk grandfather served in the Wechrmacht.

The other grandfather was building the Wolfs Den complex, supposedly as a slave laborer yet when having an accident he received full medical care and was visited (along with a small number of other workers, all professional Germans) by Adolf Hitler.

Tusks paternat grand-aunt (sister of his grandfather) died with her three children aboard Wilhelm Gustloff which evacuated German and German only civilians to Germany.

According to Szczepuła Hitler actually shook hands with Tusks grandfather (according to eyewitnesses) an unheard of thing to do towards a slave laborer.

So is Tusk a German?

The next time you open a thread in the history forum with a comment like that, I shall personally recommend to admin that he bans you from this forum for good.
Sokrates   
17 Jun 2011
News / Polish-German Close Cooperation Plan [31]

Good alternative? None. Better than him? Kaczyński.

Mind you Kaczyński is not a good politician by any stretch, its just that Tusk failed so unbelievably that even incompetents like Kaczyński are better, of course he'll **** off Germans and Russians but at least he wont nuke our domestic economy.

spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,747244,00.html

Sorry BB i live here, german newspapers praise Tusk cause he'll bend over to Berlin but when you actully live in Poland, the guy is a failure, PR is his only success.
Sokrates   
17 Jun 2011
News / Polish-German Close Cooperation Plan [31]

Tusk fits Merkel...he is like her a quiet worker, not the great poser. Pragmatic but gets things done.

He never got anything done.
Sokrates   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [158]

I agree that information from Wikipedia has to be taken with a grain of salt

No, its to be taken as absolutely worthless.

but in this case the whole article was full of links to the sources from which the quotes were taken.

These sources are mostly rubbish as well for several reasons, they do not account for Gestapo and SS members nor german police and german citizens who were killed for participating in genocide and atrocities on Poles.

They do not differentiate between casualities inflicted by Poles and Russians.

In other words they deliberately mask the whole truth in a disgustingly revisionist manner.

but do you really want to argue that all sources are only there to put Poland in a bad light?

More to the point they're not to put Poland in a bad light but to put Germany in a good light. The dry facts are that the vast majority of german civilians who died were killed as punishment for proven acts of genocide, theft or expulsion of Poles and they deserved it but by putting all the deaths in one bag the anglo-saxon authors as well as Germans attempt to revise the picture and paint Poles as murderers rather than avengers.

What they paint as genocide was wartime justice, nothing more.

Reasons to that are in the early 50s when Poland was communist and therefore smeared in sh*t as with all easter bloc countries, Germans themselves took to it instantly attempting to revise their history of genocide by a smear campaign against the Poles which continues to this day in the west by simple principle of a thing put in motion decades ago.

Post #24:
"Every time there is even the slightest criticism of Poland, you can bet that someone will either respond with a personal insult or answer with a "but".".
You are a perfect example... :)

Not at all, you're biased against Poland and will attempt to twist the facts to point in the direction you want and the direction you want is to make Poland look bad regardless of the topic at hand, you believe Poles deserve less and will attempt to prove so by lies and underhanded rhetoric every time.
Sokrates   
16 Jun 2011
News / Poland's Krab Howitzer (the 155mm gun) Has Passed the Test! [49]

I think it is sad to be proud over arms sales.

Why? Armies exist to defend national interests or exert them in an agressive way and they need hardware, its a good sign that polish arms industry is advanced and developed to a point where we export our juice to other countries.
Sokrates   
16 Jun 2011
History / So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think? [158]

Do you? Erika was born in Poland during the war years but only because her parents were settled there by the Nazis who expelled the Poles

To add spice to the issue Steinbachs were settled in a house of a polish teacher who along with his family were sent to a concentration camp where their daughter and the husband died, of course The Other does not really care since he's on a mission to force Poles to see it his way even though his way is horribly unjust and disgustingly unethical (but only when it comes to Poland).