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Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]
Yes, a man is entitled to his say. No, he is not entitled to sign a paper which may give him rights superior to the rights of the woman.
What his say is worth then?Nothing! If you think that women alone can decide whether or not they want children why men should pay anything at all on children? eh?no say no pay that is only right.
Pregnancy is personal to a woman.
Well, I was talking about majority there.
Just because one is able to do something it doesn't mean that one HAS to do it.
That is what I have been trying to communicate to you all along. You don't have to to become pregnant- simple enough.
See the difference?
I'm not getting your point if that what you mean. I think it is a moot point anyway, all I say that for women like yourself who do not believe in a sanctity of life, the best solution to avoid finding yourself in the place you don't want to be is to avoid pregnancy altogether. Nowadays it is not difficult there are other solution than sterilisation as well you should know.
You told me, in your complete ignorance, that if I didn't want to get pregnant I could get the snip.
Says you, there are few reasons why would you possibility be refused sterilisation, and I guessed few, no need to use it as a weapon against me.
As I said, pregnancy is whatever a mother perceives it to be.
It is moot point as well, all you can relate to is your personal experience to gain an upper hand here, all I can say that a quite few mothers didn't report their experiences as a trauma..
You can't get the snip in Poland
You said in this thread if you ever become pregnant in Poland you will take flight to the UK and fix it. You should assume that I'm reading your posts.
Doctors will not perform unnecessary, expensive, and painful medical operations on women of child bearing age unless there is a real necessity.
I named few possible reason what you were refused. If you weren't so busy looking for insults you would be able to notice it. Maybe not, you would rather play a victim.
As I have said already there are other methods to control your fertility. So I simply do not understand the issue here. You don't want children, you prevent it from happening.
Unless you are an activist of pro killing life organization.
I believe that to be so because of your post and because the way you "debate".
I'm just humble poster with a sensible attitude who believe in practicable solutions and in a honest debate. I detest propaganda of any sort and manipulations of any sort. I think that people who are trying to force issues which need not to be forced are not valuable people. They are that kind of people who are attracted to "causes" to "improve" humanity and they are the same kind of people who worked their way into the ranks of the Nazis and Bolsheviks, dutiful forging a new "better" world by mass murder and destruction. Thank you - no!
"hysterical women", and "immature"
How is that dehumanising? i would say that those are very human features. Would be rather described in mechanical terms?
Should really be having a discussion about where life begins.
should we?The moment of conception is precisely the moment when a life begins.
