Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]


And delph was lucky enough to drive one of them if you can believe that.


I have driven one too and will admit the seats were not like the leather ones in my truck.


They are still considered a luxury car especially when you compare them to the oversized beer cans that the Eurps drive.
Of course......... "real luxury car" costs twice as much as a Tesla so they should have twice as nice seats to sit in.
You can't compare a Tesla to a Rolls Royce delph, you have to stay in the same price range to compare apples to apples.

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Not surprising as they are out of the price range of most Poles.
World wide however they sold over 50,000 Tesla in 2014.



Oh yes really very much so a luxury car that is quality made.
You get a bit reckless with the truth sometimes delph.....is it jealousy or just pure trolling ?
In fact read the reviews for yourself on Tesla for 2014.

thecarconnection.com/s/33/overview/tesla_model-s_2014

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Not to mention that Tesla is a full size luxury car while the Eurp's are one size up from a beer can.

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Why do you keep wanting to spin the issue here Harr ?
You should really go to off - topic discussion if you insist on doing that.


I can't remember making such a claim to that spin of yours to divert my claims.


Which battery factory is bigger than one of the three Tesla's new battery buildings ?
You just want to troll argue by parroting your obsessive compulsive claims that have nothing to do with mine to drive your frivolous point into the ground.

If you want to troll to an off - topic discussion of my point of Tesla battery plants then you'll be talking to yourself.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

You are even more hilarious.
Gee Harr, thanks for enlightening us that the Scottish people evolved from Poland.
You are claiming that the Scots blood lines came from Poland.
Very interesting to say the least. lol
There are more Pol Americans on this forum with Polish ancestry than Pol Scots (are there any ?) which is the topic old boy.
Again you obsessive compulsion behavior is to argue trolling like I have already said.


Business at your bicycle shop must be slow today aye ?


That was my point Harr so troll & spin it to your hearts delight but please do it in Off - Topic.
Now back on topic here please. (as it goes in one ear and out the other)

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

Thank you for confirming my point that they were of Scottish decent and not of Polish decent like Pol - Americans are.

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]

As I stated back in the beginning of this thread that I personally don't think ev will be around for long as we know them.


Technology today is designing motors that are amazing the amount of HP to come out of such small gas engines.


Same in the U.S.A. and there is a glut of LPG, a by product of all the oil drilling that is going on.

My home heating LPG is less then $1.00 per gallon while petrol sells for about $2.50 per gallon for my truck.
What are the costs of LPG & petrol in Poland presently ?
The environment will suffer much more from the use of ev then it will from LPG or petrol cars.
Once the Greenies figure that out the fad of ev will slowly die out unless there are major design improvements. IMO

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Your reading comprehension is very poor Harr or you spinning my posts intentional in an effort to try and humiliate me which sadly only makes you look like an idiot.

We are talking about Tesla BATTERRY PLANTS to corner the world market Harr, now tune in here.
Have you a clue how big these plants will be compared to what there is now ?
Take a look here:

greencarreports.com/news/1098352_tesla-gigafactory-drone-flyover-shows-how-huge-it-really-is

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]

Damn, I better sell all my Tesla stock first thing Monday morning if that's the case !

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Who is Peeweeher pretending to be Peterweg ?


And who would these companies be ?


Tesla will put a huge dent in the market when their three new plants open.
By 2025 they should corner the market.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]

Let me elaborate.
America is not even 250 years old yet.
The people from around the world who migrated here are very proud of their ancestry so therefore it has become an American tradition to put our ancestry before America to identify.

Polish - American, Afro - American or in Canada's case, French Canadian for example.
Knowing this the Americans often times will call themselves Polish referring to their ancestry and heritage.
We need not Poland's or European's permission to do this no matter how offended they may be.
It is a harmless American tradition like it or not.


Of course not as they would just call themselves a European which covers all the old European countries.
Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums?
Finally enough since the Polish Forums originated to hold our own.

Genealogy / Americans of Polish descent. How many of us are on Polish forums? [216]


We don't have to answer to people (defend ourselves) except to the ex-pats on the Polish Forums you mean ? lol


Case in point, have you ever heard a Yoorapean call themselves a Scottish - Pole ?

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]


Currently you mean.
It has become apparent that you are very negative toward the future of Tesla because it is U.S.A. based.
I have repeated myself three times now and you seem to not want to comprehend.


These factories are mega huge and no doubt will eventually corner the world market whether you Brits like it or not.
Tesla is on the cutting edge of research and development of these batteries which will change the future of the world.

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Not exatly as I suggest you go back and read post #69 because I am not going to repeat myself again.


May I correct you sir.
My understanding is that Panasonic makes the cells and Tesla makes the modules and packs.
Panasonic invested heavily in Tesla Manufacturing Plants of batteries.
Their customers are not just car companies either as they supply the military complexes around the world.
Like I tried to explain in post #69, Tesla is building 3 gigantic battery factories.


Once they are up and running we at that time can talk about who has cornered the market on them
As far as the other two replying ex-pat googling experts trying to speak for Poland AGAIN about being experts on any and all subjects (and this certainly is not one of them)........just consider the source.

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The deposit is a $1000 times 400,000 people ..........you do the math.


Have to spend a little sometimes to make a lot in the long run.
The three huge battery factories alone is costing Tesla BILLIONS to build so losing only $13k per car sold is chump change.
And it's not lost money, it is re invested money.
These battery factories alone (not including the cars and charging stations that Tesla builds) by 2020 will dominate the world market.....cha ching !

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Motors CEO Elon Musk declared that the number of hand-raisers for the $35,000-and-up Model 3 had increased to almost 400,000 people, up from 325,000 reservations on April 7.
They can't make them fast enough.


Ah maybe because of the tax base it would create or the number of good paying jobs for the Polish workers it would create or to stimulate Poland's economy or .................


Ever hear of exporting where people can afford them in the rest of the EU ?

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That is why I was wondering why Poland hasn't offered Tesla a tax break and incentive to invest not only in plants to build cars and batteries but also the charging stations.

Poland will end up buying batteries from Tesla directly along with charging stations in the long haul.
Please fill me in as I don't live in Poland to be a know it all foreigner living in Poland pretending to be Polish.

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So Poland is still talking about it while Tesla is cornering the market.


I don't live in Poland and I know of such plans so I guess you are not quite as smart as you think you are.

Again, my question was why Poland hasn't cashed in on these plans.
Why Poland hasn't given Tesla incentive to invest in Poland.
And that is why my question was purposely not addressed to you because you don't get it.

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To bad your knowledge couldn't answer my question though.


You must not spend much time in Poland then not being able to answer my question without googling it for your next step.
My question was:


Maybe you both are too short to digest my question.
Let me ask it again to simplify it for you.
Why is not Poland producing the physical charging ports, the lithium batteries and electric cars within the country of Poland ?
Why does Poland not give Tesla incentives to put some of their manufacturing in Poland ?
Could anyone one but D.D. and H.B. (they had their chance and blew it) explain this to me since I don't live in Poland.

News / Poles say a big YES to our European Union [996]


That is exactly what I am hearing from my Polish friends here in America as they say their relatives back in Poland feel the same way.

Poles have already said that they would rather pay the fine then take in Muslim Immigrants and most likely would reject the EU if it was a requirement.

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]

We can start a thread in Off Topic about stocks,


This morning TSLA opened at $362. I'm happy.
Bitcoin mirrors gold (high risk) and is up right now due to the uncertainty of the Asian market (sell off) because of N. Korea.
Back on topic though which is why a Polish Company could not come up with installing charging ports for electric cars in Poland and it's neighboring countries.

Tesla right now is leading in this sector as well as cars and lithium batteries.
Poland has a golden opportunity to cash in on some of these opportunities yet sits idle.
Please fill me on why.

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]

How to sleep in a Tesla

cleantechnica.com/2017/08/13/sleep-tesla-model-s-model-x

Tesla stock closed @ $358 last Friday the 13th of August :-)

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]


As your name indicates you are a Polish Investor is that correct ?
Are you invested in the stock market ?


As little as you know about the subject it really does not surprise me.


So your theory is that middle class people can afford Lamborghini's and Ferrari's, eh ?

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


So it's not just my opinion that jon has morals of an alley cat.
You will never convince Mr. Know It All of that I am afraid.


And then you have these two losers that use cocaine as an unwanted attention tool like Satan would.
If either of them even came near my kids they would walk with a limp the rest of their lives................ if they lived.

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]

Tesla is finally attracting attention in Europe.
It's time Poland jumps in before they miss the boat on this one.
Having Czechoslovakia as a neighbor with huge lithium deposits is an opportunity for Poland.
Germany's new billion dollar battery plant ought to open some eyes.
This is a very interesting article on it.
cnbc.com/2017/08/07/elon-musks-tesla-could-soon-be-overtaken-in-batteries-arms-race.html

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


BALONY !
The kids in the U.S.A. have many many more activities available to them then the European children by far.
Here we go again, a liberals mind never changes, the ony thing a liberal changes is the subject.
Now get your ass back on topic.

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


Because if it was talked about by moralizing you would be lost.
You know that cocaine use is very destructive to a persons body, mind, family, business, finances, arrest and on and on.
There is no room to be neutral on encouraging cocaine use as you have done.

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


Then why are banks still being robbed ?


YES it most certainly is.
Just look at inter Chicago kids raised without a father role model for example.
jon, you are all wet with your progressive propaganda.


Oh o.k., it's not.
I forgot, you Brits are running this forum. lol

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


Criminalization for bank robber hasn't worked either so simply acknowledge that some people will do it is your rational.
My rational is that I am not going to suggest that bank robbers should go to a country with the most lenient laws for bank robbery to encourage them like you did with your cocaine encouragement.

Isn't our job as older men to teach younger men right from wrong ?
Isn't a vacation for getting away from your normal routine to relax ?
Cocaine sure the hell isn't a drug of choice that the OP is looking for to make one relax plus illegal drug use is wrong.

You jon are just playing the devil's advocate knowing damn well if the OP got caught with cocaine in Poland that it is going to ruin a part of his life.


Quit trying to run my life and go jump in the nearest lake.
More like you three non Polish Europeans projecting your ilk on Poland and America.
This is an American run forum about Poland so if you don't like it stick to ATP.

focus on the topic please

Life / Drugs in Warsaw [111]


You mean you don't like to hear that you are wrong.


Only in your dreams jon.
I think we are done here as the conclusion has been reached.
You support the use of illegal drugs and I do not.
I stand for everything that you stand against and visa versa.
Guess we will have to wait for judgment day to find out who was right and who was wrong.