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Polish diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski has died


jon357 64 | 14,382    
27 May 2017  #1
Sad news. He was 89.

Born in Warsaw, he had a remarkable and stellar career in America, including as National Security Advisor.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski#Early_years
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #2
Much appreciate the update, jon! No, I didn't know that. I couldn't agree more. He was good people and, from a personal perspective, a true friend of the Jews,
NowyPoster    
27 May 2017  #3
And all people of God.

youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

God is on your side!
NowyPoster    
27 May 2017  #4
The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #5
???? Sense, please?
NowyPoster    
27 May 2017  #6
The words are written down, and deeds to remember.
Crow 143 | 7,407    
27 May 2017  #7
To tell the true, we all know little about brat Zbigniew. So, hand on heart, one can say only one thing for him and that is - he profited a lot of from being Polish, while Poles in Poland suffered. He profited. I won`t say he did good of he did bad. He profited.
Velund 1 | 348    
27 May 2017  #8
As I can see from comments on various forums - reaction mostly ranges from neutral to something written by Hilaire Belloc:

Here richly, with ridiculous display,
The Politician's corpse was laid away.
While all of his acquaintance sneered and slanged
I wept: for I had longed to see him hanged.


And many, many people tell that Brzezinski is far not the last in the list of people responsible in burning Middle East and millions of civilian' deaths.
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #9
That's it, revile Brzezinski for being a good person. His father too, like with the late Jan Karski, was a bona fide humanitarian, when it gave the least in remunerary return, yet counted most in terms of spirit. Here's to the spirit of the real Christian ethic, May she live on in those who dare walk in their footsteps. Tough act to follow, folks!
Crow 143 | 7,407    
27 May 2017  #10
Still, only important thing is that man took the money. Did he sold his soul for that? Well, Arcturus Castus, another our Sarmatian, also took the money and, what we know, sold his soul. But, he got glory. True, glory in the eyes of non-Sarmats but, glory undoubtedly.

Would brat Zbigniew get the glory? No, he wasn`t that important.
dany_moussalli 13 | 263    
27 May 2017  #11
@NowyPoster

So basically he had a role in financing the mujaheedin which later became al Qaeda, that doesn't make him a good man
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #12
The Good Samaritan remains one of the more disquieting parables in Christianity, sadly, often used in order to justify anti-Semitism, as Jesus is said to have excoriated the Hebrews for not reaching out to help the man, whereas the Samaritans did:-)

More fuel for the fodder.
Velund 1 | 348    
27 May 2017  #13
yet counted most in terms of spirit

Yes, you must have copper balls to sentence uncounted millions to die just because you are "playing geopolitical chess game".

I hope, Europe and US will pay for supporting that sort of "players". Already starting to pay, of course.
Crow 143 | 7,407    
27 May 2017  #14
often used in order to justify anti-Semitism ..... More fuel for the fodder.

Even if, that didn`t bring him glory. Only money. I mean, not eternal glory.

See, he didn`t perform worse only in comparison to Arcturus Castus. No. When it come to glory brat Zbigniew can`t be even compared to most famous Sarmatian from ancient past- Alexandar of Macedon. Even when it come to wealth, Alexander was more successful then Zbigniew. Sure, what Alexander could do with all the wealth when he died young. In that, only in that, what we know, Zbigniew outperformed him. Maybe also in selling his soul but, its questionable. Its for deeper elaboration and contemplation.
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #15
Clearly, this thread shows that one is never a prophet in their own times...they must often wait for posterity to judge them by their rightful merits.
johnny reb 16 | 3,131    
27 May 2017  #16
that doesn't make him a good man

Zbigniew Brzezinski was a Jew, does that help justify the rational here by the Jewish posters.
OP jon357 64 | 14,382    
27 May 2017  #17
they must often wait for posterity to judge them by their rightful merits.

And history will judge him well.
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #18
From your lips to G_d's ear.
Crow 143 | 7,407    
27 May 2017  #19
One more other Sarmatian- known as Spartak was rather naive. Desperate, brave, but, naive. On the other side, non can say that brat Zbigniew was naive. He wasn`t. Brave? Yes. Desperate? Maybe.
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
27 May 2017  #20
What have you got against Brzezinski?
gregy741 4 | 1,207    
27 May 2017  #21
father of Islamic terrorism.well cia sponsored sort
Crow 143 | 7,407    
27 May 2017  #22
Against? Me? Nothing.

I am the only one here who is objective. I repeat, we all know nothing about him. We are little people and omnipotent but not omnipresent democracy didn`t found way to show us the light of knowledge. What we have are daily political comments of brat Zbigniew and some others. Still, only thing what we know for certainty is that brat took the money. Did he deserved it or not, we just don`t know. So, there goes my contemplation.

Are you Lyzko say that you know truth?

Or maybe that pathetic jon357 knows?
NowyPoster    
28 May 2017  #23
Zbigniew Brzezinski was a Jew

If Zbig were a Jew, then what makes him to be one?
Lyzko 20 | 6,177    
28 May 2017  #24
More bilge from the far "wrong"LOL Brzezinski was raised a good Catholic and has zero Jewish or non-ethnic Slavic roots whatsoever. Because you dislike someone, is calling them a "Jew" equivalent to an insult??! Who's a racist now?

:-)
johnny reb 16 | 3,131    
28 May 2017  #25
Is zbigniew brzezinski Jewish?

Answered by The WikiAnswers┼Ż Community

yes

That's what I Googled, what is your source ?
OP jon357 64 | 14,382    
28 May 2017  #26
Answered by The WikiAnswers┼Ż Community

No he wasn't. The 'wikianswerz' community isn't a source. He was such a hero that if he was even a bit Jewish, that community would have been proud to proclaim him as one of their own.
johnny reb 16 | 3,131    
29 May 2017  #27
I ask for your source, not your opinion.
Ironside 47 | 9,499    
29 May 2017  #28
Err American diplomat has died. Pol-Am has died. A Some one who your pals and you would bully if he would had happen to stumple upon this forum.

Zbigniew Brzezinski was a Jew,

I doubt that.
OP jon357 64 | 14,382    
29 May 2017  #29
Brzezinski was raised a good Catholic and has zero Jewish or non-ethnic Slavic roots whatsoever.

Yes.

He will be missed. A case of someone who crossed the world as an immigrant and achieved a lot.
Ironside 47 | 9,499    
29 May 2017  #30
He studied in the USA as a son of a Polish diplomat in Canada before and during the war. Not quite the same thing.


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