Lyzko
27 May 2017
Lyzko
27 May 2017
History / Polish hero discovers Jewish roots [25]
Who's threatening anyone?? Oh, you mean "threaD"! There you go, devoicing againLOL
Why is defending Jews "racist", while defending Christians isn't. To be frank as well, your logic really escapes me sometimes.
Who's threatening anyone?? Oh, you mean "threaD"! There you go, devoicing againLOL
Why is defending Jews "racist", while defending Christians isn't. To be frank as well, your logic really escapes me sometimes.
Lyzko
27 May 2017
History / Polish hero discovers Jewish roots [25]
Hmmm, let's see now. The Jews have been in Poland since roughly the 11th century or thereabouts and barely since 2017 is there this gradual widespread "Jewish revival" of traditions and cultural symbiosis all over the place, breaking out like nobody's business???! Well, the thousandth year's always a charm:-)
Hmmm, let's see now. The Jews have been in Poland since roughly the 11th century or thereabouts and barely since 2017 is there this gradual widespread "Jewish revival" of traditions and cultural symbiosis all over the place, breaking out like nobody's business???! Well, the thousandth year's always a charm:-)
Lyzko
27 May 2017
News / Polish diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski has died [53]
Much appreciate the update, jon! No, I didn't know that. I couldn't agree more. He was good people and, from a personal perspective, a true friend of the Jews,
Much appreciate the update, jon! No, I didn't know that. I couldn't agree more. He was good people and, from a personal perspective, a true friend of the Jews,
Lyzko
27 May 2017
Work / South African wants to move to Poland, please provide some input? [59]
While the average South African can hold their own in English, much the same cannot be said across the board for the Poles:-) Although the Dutch are of course another matter entirely, Warsaw ain't Amsterdam (and believe me, they don't even try), therefore learning at least basic Polish would be more or less a must:-) That'll also help out lots with jobs, digs and stuff like this.
Powodzenia, mate!
While the average South African can hold their own in English, much the same cannot be said across the board for the Poles:-) Although the Dutch are of course another matter entirely, Warsaw ain't Amsterdam (and believe me, they don't even try), therefore learning at least basic Polish would be more or less a must:-) That'll also help out lots with jobs, digs and stuff like this.
Powodzenia, mate!
Lyzko
12 May 2017
Love / Just started dating Polish guy - what is typical of a man from Poland? Cultural differences. [78]
As already posted, Poles of either sex tend to be frank to a fault, blunt as a spoon, even for a first encounter, and usually make no bones about expressing themselves along with the necessary obscenities (particularly in EnglishLOL), LIKE IT OR NOT!!!
Older Poles, over fifty-sixty onward especially, will typically be far less "in your face", as the saying goes, albeit nearly as opinionated as regards politics and national culture:-)
I once dated briefly a Polish woman shortly after grad school, and was struck by how straightforward she was in comparison with American women especially.
There was no warming up in the bull pen, so to speak, and I noticed that even in Polish, she seemed to dispense with the small talk right from the start.
Unlike Swedes, Dutch, and Germans though, she was never hurtful, rude or errantly nasty, merely impatient like a child, almost demanding simple answers to complicated, above all, often highly personal questions.
Wish to emphasize here, I'm only speaking from my own limited experience first hand.
As already posted, Poles of either sex tend to be frank to a fault, blunt as a spoon, even for a first encounter, and usually make no bones about expressing themselves along with the necessary obscenities (particularly in EnglishLOL), LIKE IT OR NOT!!!
Older Poles, over fifty-sixty onward especially, will typically be far less "in your face", as the saying goes, albeit nearly as opinionated as regards politics and national culture:-)
I once dated briefly a Polish woman shortly after grad school, and was struck by how straightforward she was in comparison with American women especially.
There was no warming up in the bull pen, so to speak, and I noticed that even in Polish, she seemed to dispense with the small talk right from the start.
Unlike Swedes, Dutch, and Germans though, she was never hurtful, rude or errantly nasty, merely impatient like a child, almost demanding simple answers to complicated, above all, often highly personal questions.
Wish to emphasize here, I'm only speaking from my own limited experience first hand.
Lyzko
8 May 2017
Food / What Polish foods do foreigners generally not take to? [139]
In general, Polish food I've had, both here and in Poland, is quite a salty affair:-) Northern Europeans do love their fat and lard to a far greater degree than the Italians, preferring (the healthier) olive oil.
Probably, most of the authentic Polish specialties would have to be "Americanized" to suit US health requirementsLOL
In general, Polish food I've had, both here and in Poland, is quite a salty affair:-) Northern Europeans do love their fat and lard to a far greater degree than the Italians, preferring (the healthier) olive oil.
Probably, most of the authentic Polish specialties would have to be "Americanized" to suit US health requirementsLOL
Lyzko
7 May 2017
Food / What Polish foods do foreigners generally not take to? [139]
"Peoples" though IS only correct in the sense of "peoples of the earth", referring to "tribes" or "races" ("lud" or "plemie")!
:-)
"Peoples" though IS only correct in the sense of "peoples of the earth", referring to "tribes" or "races" ("lud" or "plemie")!
:-)
Lyzko
4 May 2017
Food / What Polish foods do foreigners generally not take to? [139]
Don't let's please not forget my personal favorites pyzy and bigos, while you're at it.....
Don't let's please not forget my personal favorites pyzy and bigos, while you're at it.....
Lyzko
1 May 2017
Lyzko
1 May 2017
Language / "Poles" or "Polish people" - which is better to use? [200]
"Poles" is just fine, "polak", definitely not!
"Poles" is just fine, "polak", definitely not!
Lyzko
29 Apr 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
"Free" speech need not automatically mean hate or purposely offensive speech! What folks quickly forget is that people such as Ms.Coulter, the Bell curve author, Murray etc. is that the latter are merely freeing up the airwaves in order to polute OUR space with their pestilent garbage!!
Speech can be free, but only so long as THEY are calling the shots. I'm perfectly happy to listen calmly to their point of view and then proceed to tell them just as calmly where they're mixed up:-) What's wrong with that? Seems fair.
lol
"Free" speech need not automatically mean hate or purposely offensive speech! What folks quickly forget is that people such as Ms.Coulter, the Bell curve author, Murray etc. is that the latter are merely freeing up the airwaves in order to polute OUR space with their pestilent garbage!!
Speech can be free, but only so long as THEY are calling the shots. I'm perfectly happy to listen calmly to their point of view and then proceed to tell them just as calmly where they're mixed up:-) What's wrong with that? Seems fair.
lol
Lyzko
26 Apr 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
Thanks, Delph!
POLSAT'S good and on YouTube I will occasionally try to watch and listen to parliamentary debates. My enemy is simply time:-)
@NoToForeigners,
One of our greatest English authors, Joseph Conrad, became a master stylist in the English language, yet by all accounts spoke English with such a thick Polish accent, he sometimes dumbfounded listeners! Moral here is that whereas I make grammatical errors in my writing, you'll probably never know how good my speaking is!
Thanks, Delph!
POLSAT'S good and on YouTube I will occasionally try to watch and listen to parliamentary debates. My enemy is simply time:-)
@NoToForeigners,
One of our greatest English authors, Joseph Conrad, became a master stylist in the English language, yet by all accounts spoke English with such a thick Polish accent, he sometimes dumbfounded listeners! Moral here is that whereas I make grammatical errors in my writing, you'll probably never know how good my speaking is!
Lyzko
26 Apr 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
It so happens that I understand as much in Polish news broadcasts as you do of CNN or BBC! I can't speak for Delph or others:-)
Perhaps not up to the quality of "Do Rzeczy" or "Rzeczpospolita", but I read the "Nowy Dziennik" on a weekly basis and have little difficulty grasping the main idea.
It so happens that I understand as much in Polish news broadcasts as you do of CNN or BBC! I can't speak for Delph or others:-)
Perhaps not up to the quality of "Do Rzeczy" or "Rzeczpospolita", but I read the "Nowy Dziennik" on a weekly basis and have little difficulty grasping the main idea.
Lyzko
26 Apr 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]
You seem to have an opinion about everything else, why shouldn't Delph have a chance as well? He's usually interesting and literate, present company excludedLOL
You seem to have an opinion about everything else, why shouldn't Delph have a chance as well? He's usually interesting and literate, present company excludedLOL
Lyzko
17 Apr 2017
Lyzko
17 Apr 2017
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1049]
Does the 'n+ soft sign' belong in "Twoich urodzin.."?? I remember recently writing to a Polish acquaintance and she corrected it with a normal 'n':-)
Just curious. Guess every language has it's own hard and fast rules regarding spelling.
Does the 'n+ soft sign' belong in "Twoich urodzin.."?? I remember recently writing to a Polish acquaintance and she corrected it with a normal 'n':-)
Just curious. Guess every language has it's own hard and fast rules regarding spelling.
Lyzko
13 Apr 2017
UK, Ireland / What can I say/do about my Polish neighbours in the UK? [65]
Xenophobic prattle harms all of us, Joker! Had you, say, moved to Turkey for instance, and continued practicing your "heathen" British ways, such as walking about in casual wear into a mosque, allowing your wife/girlfriend to walk onto a holy site uncovered, joking about the scowling omnipresent visage of Ataturk all of the place (which remains forbidden under penalty of fine or incarceration), don't you honestly think your overwhelmingly Turkish neighbors might strenuously object and be quite vocal about it??!
Xenophobic prattle harms all of us, Joker! Had you, say, moved to Turkey for instance, and continued practicing your "heathen" British ways, such as walking about in casual wear into a mosque, allowing your wife/girlfriend to walk onto a holy site uncovered, joking about the scowling omnipresent visage of Ataturk all of the place (which remains forbidden under penalty of fine or incarceration), don't you honestly think your overwhelmingly Turkish neighbors might strenuously object and be quite vocal about it??!
Lyzko
13 Apr 2017
UK, Ireland / What can I say/do about my Polish neighbours in the UK? [65]
Once more, Joker, the Poles don't have a monopoly on playing loud music etc.
A tough call, but if ringing them doesn't work, knocking on the door of their flat doesn't either, then the note inside the lift idea might do the trick:-)
Once more, Joker, the Poles don't have a monopoly on playing loud music etc.
A tough call, but if ringing them doesn't work, knocking on the door of their flat doesn't either, then the note inside the lift idea might do the trick:-)
Lyzko
13 Apr 2017
UK, Ireland / What can I say/do about my Polish neighbours in the UK? [65]
I do agree about the Italians especially, both in Italy and abroad:-) I was last in the UK during the '90s and perhaps only a coincidence, but during a guided tour of the BM (British Museum), a youngish, teenage Italian girl on the tour was asking questions to the docent and her voice projection was so almost piercingly loud (not to mention grating due no doubt to being a chain smoker) we scarcely could hear the docent when she was speaking!
Finally, the tour was over, but my ears were still ringing for a good half hour after.
I think that it's a question in this case of the enunciation in a particular language. Italian, more certainly than English, German, Spanish or Polish, is a carefully pronounced language in which it seems every individual letter counts (except perhaps for consonant clusters such as "gl" in "gli" etc.). Therefore, perhaps Italian speakers, both male and female, tend to sound "louder" in even normal speech than speakers from other language groups.
As far though as the main thread question is concerned, among the many factors to consider would be the issue of personal space, not merely voice volume, in other countries compared to the UK. As England especially is a much smaller surface area than Poland, Turkey, Germany, Russia and the US, English people are more conscious of that space and tend not to appreciate people standing to close to them, even if they're whispering:-)
Only my two pence worth.
I do agree about the Italians especially, both in Italy and abroad:-) I was last in the UK during the '90s and perhaps only a coincidence, but during a guided tour of the BM (British Museum), a youngish, teenage Italian girl on the tour was asking questions to the docent and her voice projection was so almost piercingly loud (not to mention grating due no doubt to being a chain smoker) we scarcely could hear the docent when she was speaking!
Finally, the tour was over, but my ears were still ringing for a good half hour after.
I think that it's a question in this case of the enunciation in a particular language. Italian, more certainly than English, German, Spanish or Polish, is a carefully pronounced language in which it seems every individual letter counts (except perhaps for consonant clusters such as "gl" in "gli" etc.). Therefore, perhaps Italian speakers, both male and female, tend to sound "louder" in even normal speech than speakers from other language groups.
As far though as the main thread question is concerned, among the many factors to consider would be the issue of personal space, not merely voice volume, in other countries compared to the UK. As England especially is a much smaller surface area than Poland, Turkey, Germany, Russia and the US, English people are more conscious of that space and tend not to appreciate people standing to close to them, even if they're whispering:-)
Only my two pence worth.
Lyzko
12 Apr 2017
UK, Ireland / What can I say/do about my Polish neighbours in the UK? [65]
"Greenhorns" nearly anywhere abroad, are bound to bring many of their foreign ways to bear on the host culture! Surely no culture has a monopoly either on dirtiness, cleanliness, loudness, quietness etc., therefore, the behaviors of non-native neighbors inside a majority society must be weighed within the scope of relative consideration.
Whereas in a number of the Scandinavian countries, it is felt to be uncouth as well as annoying, to have people congregating in the street, speaking at the top of their lungs in a foreign tongue, even in English, for that matter:-) On the other hand, in many Arab-speaking countries, this is a most normal, everyday occurrence, barely worthy of comment, certainly not complaint.
My advice to try tolerance in the case of noisy foreign neighbors, and if all else fails, possibly type an anonymous note stating the nature of the complaint, firmly yet friendly, and simply tape it in the lift for everyone to see.
The"offender" just may take notice and voila, problem solved:-)
"Greenhorns" nearly anywhere abroad, are bound to bring many of their foreign ways to bear on the host culture! Surely no culture has a monopoly either on dirtiness, cleanliness, loudness, quietness etc., therefore, the behaviors of non-native neighbors inside a majority society must be weighed within the scope of relative consideration.
Whereas in a number of the Scandinavian countries, it is felt to be uncouth as well as annoying, to have people congregating in the street, speaking at the top of their lungs in a foreign tongue, even in English, for that matter:-) On the other hand, in many Arab-speaking countries, this is a most normal, everyday occurrence, barely worthy of comment, certainly not complaint.
My advice to try tolerance in the case of noisy foreign neighbors, and if all else fails, possibly type an anonymous note stating the nature of the complaint, firmly yet friendly, and simply tape it in the lift for everyone to see.
The"offender" just may take notice and voila, problem solved:-)
Lyzko
3 Apr 2017
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
??? And again, why would you think anything different?
??? And again, why would you think anything different?
Lyzko
2 Apr 2017
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
My last post was sent in error!
Indeed, I do have a high regard for the Poles and their country.
My last post was sent in error!
Indeed, I do have a high regard for the Poles and their country.
Lyzko
2 Apr 2017
Language / How well do Polish people understand Slovak? [88]
Completely correct, Maf, which is why these two words give Hungarians such reason to guffaw so when foreigners such as we attempt to utter their "intractable" tongueLOL
Completely correct, Maf, which is why these two words give Hungarians such reason to guffaw so when foreigners such as we attempt to utter their "intractable" tongueLOL
Lyzko
2 Apr 2017
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
On the contrary, my opinion of Poles as well as Poland is overwhelmingly positive, however could you think otherwise?
:-)
On the contrary, my opinion of Poles as well as Poland is overwhelmingly positive, however could you think otherwise?
:-)
Lyzko
1 Apr 2017
Language / How well do Polish people understand Slovak? [88]
.....which is because the toast phrase is written "Egeszegere!":-)
Nothing makes Hungarians laugh more than this deadly false friend, similar to entertainment for the Danes is listening to unsuspecting foreign visitors asking about "Koege" on a map of Denmark, or ordering "Roedgroede med floede" in a restaurant. Cracks 'em up every time!
.....which is because the toast phrase is written "Egeszegere!":-)
Nothing makes Hungarians laugh more than this deadly false friend, similar to entertainment for the Danes is listening to unsuspecting foreign visitors asking about "Koege" on a map of Denmark, or ordering "Roedgroede med floede" in a restaurant. Cracks 'em up every time!
Lyzko
1 Apr 2017
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
Yes, I agree to an extent. I think that Anglo-Saxon culture typically tries to shy away from confrontation.
On the other hand, there are plenty of belligerent Brits as there are taciturn, retiring Israelis (...although I've never met anyLOL)!
:-)
Poles often come across as opinionated, yet not doctrinaire, involved, while at the same time, self-assured.
Yes, I agree to an extent. I think that Anglo-Saxon culture typically tries to shy away from confrontation.
On the other hand, there are plenty of belligerent Brits as there are taciturn, retiring Israelis (...although I've never met anyLOL)!
:-)
Poles often come across as opinionated, yet not doctrinaire, involved, while at the same time, self-assured.
Lyzko
1 Apr 2017
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
Polish people I've found on the whole to be forthright and often unusually candid with their emotions, as I've stated before. This is neither positive nor negative, merely an objective observation culled over many years:-)
Polish people I've found on the whole to be forthright and often unusually candid with their emotions, as I've stated before. This is neither positive nor negative, merely an objective observation culled over many years:-)
Lyzko
31 Mar 2017
Language / How well do Polish people understand Slovak? [88]
Tricky pronunciation for Hungarian speakers particularly, conversely for Poles, is the "SZ" vs. "S" issue. A Pole instinctively says "SHeged" rather than "Sseged" ("Szeged") and "Ssandor" (Sandor) instead of "SHandor" etc..
Czech and Slovak also have long or closed vowels, where modern Polish only has open or short ones.
Tricky pronunciation for Hungarian speakers particularly, conversely for Poles, is the "SZ" vs. "S" issue. A Pole instinctively says "SHeged" rather than "Sseged" ("Szeged") and "Ssandor" (Sandor) instead of "SHandor" etc..
Czech and Slovak also have long or closed vowels, where modern Polish only has open or short ones.
Lyzko
31 Mar 2017
Language / How well do Polish people understand Slovak? [88]
In Polish, the "g" appears in words like "głodny", "gołąb" etc.. which, for example in Czech might be written/spoken "holodny" and "holub".
In Polish, the "g" appears in words like "głodny", "gołąb" etc.. which, for example in Czech might be written/spoken "holodny" and "holub".