mafketis
9 Mar 2020
News / Charles Crawford on PiS just after the 2015 election [29]
they'll just blame it on PO and their lackeys will swallow it like candy!
they'll just blame it on PO and their lackeys will swallow it like candy!
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
Language / Sentence usage/placements of unstressed vs stressed pronouns Się/Siebie, Mi/Mię, Cię/Ci, Go/Jego, Mu/Jemu, [19]
Look at the vid in #6.... she explains it very well.
go - normal unstressed
jego - stressed for whatever reason, especially in contrastive contexts
niego - after a preposition
kocham cię = normal "I love you"
Ciebie = stressed 'Kocham Ciebie' "I love _you_ (not my ex that you saw me having coffee with)!"
It depends then on the register
Look at the vid in #6.... she explains it very well.
go - normal unstressed
jego - stressed for whatever reason, especially in contrastive contexts
niego - after a preposition
kocham cię = normal "I love you"
Ciebie = stressed 'Kocham Ciebie' "I love _you_ (not my ex that you saw me having coffee with)!"
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
I think double K has a chance.... (he has my official endorsement for the time being).
neither will Kidawa or Kosiniak
I think double K has a chance.... (he has my official endorsement for the time being).
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
Life / Americanization of Poland - good or bad? [49]
Very true, similarly they don't learn it so they can speak to people from the British Isles... they mostly learn it because it's mostly a required subject at school (and language learning has always had a prominent place in the Polish school system).
Poles don't learn English so they can speak to Americans
Very true, similarly they don't learn it so they can speak to people from the British Isles... they mostly learn it because it's mostly a required subject at school (and language learning has always had a prominent place in the Polish school system).
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
PiS has played dirty plenty of times in the past, complaining that someone is fighting fire with fire is disingenuous...
PiS has played dirty plenty of times in the past, complaining that someone is fighting fire with fire is disingenuous...
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
Well there's a lot of people who "defend" various PiS mis-deeds with the equivalent of "PO is just as bad!"
PiS has played very dirty in the past, so..... turnabout is fairplay.
PAD is not and will never be president of all Polish people because he's tied to PiS and simply does whatever pan prezes tells him.
Well there's a lot of people who "defend" various PiS mis-deeds with the equivalent of "PO is just as bad!"
PiS has played very dirty in the past, so..... turnabout is fairplay.
PAD is not and will never be president of all Polish people because he's tied to PiS and simply does whatever pan prezes tells him.
mafketis
9 Mar 2020
Language / Sentence usage/placements of unstressed vs stressed pronouns Się/Siebie, Mi/Mię, Cię/Ci, Go/Jego, Mu/Jemu, [19]
This is a nice video explaining go, jego and niego. It's made by a teacher of Polish as a foreign language (from some of the vids she does I have the idea a lot of her students are Russian speakers).
youtube.com/watch?v=xgHGOy_Nrwk
This is a nice video explaining go, jego and niego. It's made by a teacher of Polish as a foreign language (from some of the vids she does I have the idea a lot of her students are Russian speakers).
youtube.com/watch?v=xgHGOy_Nrwk
mafketis
8 Mar 2020
Language / Sentence usage/placements of unstressed vs stressed pronouns Się/Siebie, Mi/Mię, Cię/Ci, Go/Jego, Mu/Jemu, [19]
Au contraire mon ami!
It's archaic and not used anymore but it existed.... and I think I've heard it a time or two in religious contexts (maybe from the Bible?)
sjp.pwn.pl/so/mie;4464715.html
biblijni.pl/modlitwy/105_modlitwa_za_rodzicow_5.html
No such pronoun in Polish.
Au contraire mon ami!
It's archaic and not used anymore but it existed.... and I think I've heard it a time or two in religious contexts (maybe from the Bible?)
sjp.pwn.pl/so/mie;4464715.html
biblijni.pl/modlitwy/105_modlitwa_za_rodzicow_5.html
mafketis
8 Mar 2020
Language / Sentence usage/placements of unstressed vs stressed pronouns Się/Siebie, Mi/Mię, Cię/Ci, Go/Jego, Mu/Jemu, [19]
hint: learn to use paragraph breaks and use white space... no sane person wants to read through a big block of unbroken text...
Please everyone
hint: learn to use paragraph breaks and use white space... no sane person wants to read through a big block of unbroken text...
mafketis
8 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
the -wszy forms (only with perfective verbs) are just about non-existent in spontaneous everyday usage, it's mostly found in more formal writing.
Not by itself, but some derived forms can be spotted now and again...
być itself has both perfective and imperfective qualities (the only such verb in Polish AFAIK)
there's only "Zobaczywszy"
the -wszy forms (only with perfective verbs) are just about non-existent in spontaneous everyday usage, it's mostly found in more formal writing.
I've never seen "Bywszy"
Not by itself, but some derived forms can be spotted now and again...
być itself has both perfective and imperfective qualities (the only such verb in Polish AFAIK)
mafketis
7 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
Do you?
Pop question: You can decide where to spend two billion zloties...
a) TVP as currently constructed (mouthpiece of the government)
b) healthcare system (in general)
where would you spend it if it were your personal choice?
do you know much about TV financial history or reality?
Do you?
Pop question: You can decide where to spend two billion zloties...
a) TVP as currently constructed (mouthpiece of the government)
b) healthcare system (in general)
where would you spend it if it were your personal choice?
mafketis
7 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
Then why was Morawiecki displaying such discomfort?
A public display of unity
Then why was Morawiecki displaying such discomfort?
mafketis
7 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
I agree that signing the law on a train platform was no big deal, but why was Morawiecki there during Duda's speech? Why was his body language so freaky?
No matter what you think of him, this can't help Duda at all I haven't seen a single positive comment about it... just more or less hostile and/or more or less "well, things happen". No actual defense has been raised for this craven act of partisanship.
His ambition of being president of the entire country is dead. He's the president of those who vote for PiS.
I agree that signing the law on a train platform was no big deal, but why was Morawiecki there during Duda's speech? Why was his body language so freaky?
No matter what you think of him, this can't help Duda at all I haven't seen a single positive comment about it... just more or less hostile and/or more or less "well, things happen". No actual defense has been raised for this craven act of partisanship.
His ambition of being president of the entire country is dead. He's the president of those who vote for PiS.
mafketis
7 Mar 2020
Food / Which foods are generally disliked/unpopular in Poland? Which non-Polish foods are slowly gaining popularity? [180]
There's also the phony McEnnedy-American-way brand often sold at Lidl... I've bought some of it but it's usually a little off (not necessarily terrible but not quite real American either). I've seen another pseudo-American brand or two as well but can't remember the names...
@forumuser
Canned soup has never been a think in Poland though there are more and more prepared foods available (not so much frozen but ready to (h)eat dinners).
Macaroni and cheese is also not a thing here.
But sort-of-fresh guacamole is now available so, !soy feliz!
next stop: fresh corn tortillas...
we don't generally get the American brands as much
There's also the phony McEnnedy-American-way brand often sold at Lidl... I've bought some of it but it's usually a little off (not necessarily terrible but not quite real American either). I've seen another pseudo-American brand or two as well but can't remember the names...
@forumuser
Canned soup has never been a think in Poland though there are more and more prepared foods available (not so much frozen but ready to (h)eat dinners).
Macaroni and cheese is also not a thing here.
But sort-of-fresh guacamole is now available so, !soy feliz!
next stop: fresh corn tortillas...
mafketis
7 Mar 2020
News / Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates [2222]
What was up with Morawiecki's body language in that announcement? Just weirder than ever....
Even the dimmest of the PiS loyalists have to realize now that PiS will never do anything to improve the healthcare system...
Duda signed the law
What was up with Morawiecki's body language in that announcement? Just weirder than ever....
Even the dimmest of the PiS loyalists have to realize now that PiS will never do anything to improve the healthcare system...
mafketis
4 Mar 2020
Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]
the abuse he suffered as a child? Probable....
gone as far as depicting
the abuse he suffered as a child? Probable....
mafketis
4 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
How long before someone "fixes" it back?
A few years ago I was involved with an international information web-project. One of the things I was supposed to do (as a native speaker) was edit things other people wrote (in a common editing area before launching the site).
Unfortunately one or three people keep changing my edits back to the originals... occasionally that wasn't a problem but most of the time it was with people determined to insert clumsy non-native expressions into the text... I finally gave up changing it at all... (I had previously mentally checked out because of other bad decisions that didn't do anything good for the content, by the end I just didn't care anymore...).
How long before someone "fixes" it back?
A few years ago I was involved with an international information web-project. One of the things I was supposed to do (as a native speaker) was edit things other people wrote (in a common editing area before launching the site).
Unfortunately one or three people keep changing my edits back to the originals... occasionally that wasn't a problem but most of the time it was with people determined to insert clumsy non-native expressions into the text... I finally gave up changing it at all... (I had previously mentally checked out because of other bad decisions that didn't do anything good for the content, by the end I just didn't care anymore...).
mafketis
4 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
and/or machine writing and/or translation?
Some news items in English are written by machines (I suspected as much for a few years before finding confirmation).
Polish is harder to manage that way, but....
Typical example of bad editor's work.
and/or machine writing and/or translation?
Some news items in English are written by machines (I suspected as much for a few years before finding confirmation).
Polish is harder to manage that way, but....
mafketis
4 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
So what's going on with these (and similar ones I found)?
"Został malowany przez cztery kolejne lata"
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_del_Popolo
"w kolejnych minutach dolar został kupowany już jako "tani"."
analizy.investio.pl/najsilniejsza-przecena-dolara-od-2009-roku/
You never use 'zostac' with imprefective.
So what's going on with these (and similar ones I found)?
"Został malowany przez cztery kolejne lata"
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_del_Popolo
"w kolejnych minutach dolar został kupowany już jako "tani"."
analizy.investio.pl/najsilniejsza-przecena-dolara-od-2009-roku/
mafketis
3 Mar 2020
News / A better Polish solution: aiding refugees in their home region [29]
The Greek and Bulgarian armies for the time being... I notice EU official rhetoric this time around is a lot like Orban in 2015.... The Merkeljugend have not exactly won the hearts and minds of the German public and no one wants a rerun of that ongoing debacle....
...with what army? :)
The Greek and Bulgarian armies for the time being... I notice EU official rhetoric this time around is a lot like Orban in 2015.... The Merkeljugend have not exactly won the hearts and minds of the German public and no one wants a rerun of that ongoing debacle....
mafketis
3 Mar 2020
Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]
Agreed, but it should force religious doctrine on non-believers through the law...
I'm very cool with letting people have their religious beliefs in their house of worship and the home. People who are against same sex marriage for religious reasons should absolutely not marry someone of the same sex...
Negotiating the boundaries of civil and religious ethics is difficult and tricky and not helped by people who just want to use their religion to hit others over the head with....
society should decide on the laws
Agreed, but it should force religious doctrine on non-believers through the law...
what do you want?: not interfering of religious beliefs
I'm very cool with letting people have their religious beliefs in their house of worship and the home. People who are against same sex marriage for religious reasons should absolutely not marry someone of the same sex...
Negotiating the boundaries of civil and religious ethics is difficult and tricky and not helped by people who just want to use their religion to hit others over the head with....
mafketis
3 Mar 2020
Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]
So non-believers don't need to worry about it (and believers should not try to force their religious preferences into civil law)? Cool!
So non-believers don't need to worry about it (and believers should not try to force their religious preferences into civil law)? Cool!
mafketis
3 Mar 2020
Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]
what about an infertile person having sex... isn't that unnatural?
So heterosexual anal sex is the same kind of sin? Do preachers use up valuable air time railing against it?
What about lesbian sex? Are heterosexual versions 'unnatural'?
rephrase that sentence to "un-natural sex acts"
what about an infertile person having sex... isn't that unnatural?
My dupa is a one way street or " exit only" lol
So heterosexual anal sex is the same kind of sin? Do preachers use up valuable air time railing against it?
What about lesbian sex? Are heterosexual versions 'unnatural'?
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
Life / Can someone tell me about the reason behind being gay in Poland being wrong [148]
Why? Why are consenting sexual acts between adults of the same sex a sin?
People who talk about an "only source of happiness" are very scary.... I don't trust them as they have limited imaginations and no empathy...
don't need tolerance, acceptance or understanding. What they really need is grace and forgiveness
Why? Why are consenting sexual acts between adults of the same sex a sin?
the true and only source of happiness
People who talk about an "only source of happiness" are very scary.... I don't trust them as they have limited imaginations and no empathy...
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Okay, I was hoping for some German there, but.... anyhoo...
The use of zostać (become) with past participles is likely a loan translation from German which uses werden (become) for such constructions. But być is also used. I remember there's a slight difference in meaning but it's pretty subtle and not necessary to worry about at this stage.
Basically, both być and zostać with past participles are more formal, written language (esp journalism) and not so common in speech.
Okay, I was hoping for some German there, but.... anyhoo...
The use of zostać (become) with past participles is likely a loan translation from German which uses werden (become) for such constructions. But być is also used. I remember there's a slight difference in meaning but it's pretty subtle and not necessary to worry about at this stage.
Basically, both być and zostać with past participles are more formal, written language (esp journalism) and not so common in speech.
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
You're welcome. If you could mention what your first language, and major foreign language(s) are then answers could probably be more helpful...
Thank you everyone who responded
You're welcome. If you could mention what your first language, and major foreign language(s) are then answers could probably be more helpful...
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Can you see the menu? It's foggy outside and it it keeps hiding behind trees...
Can you see the menu? It's foggy outside and it it keeps hiding behind trees...
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
News / A better Polish solution: aiding refugees in their home region [29]
I'm doubting that will happen. No matter what European leaders say they don't want a repeat of 2015 and will tacitly give Greece and Bulgaria to do whatever is needed to stop the flow...
With another million pouring in
I'm doubting that will happen. No matter what European leaders say they don't want a repeat of 2015 and will tacitly give Greece and Bulgaria to do whatever is needed to stop the flow...
mafketis
2 Mar 2020
Language / Verbal nouns and past-tense adjectives from imperfective & perfective verbs..when to use which aspect? [48]
Basically the same as verbs.... the best aid I ever heard was for Czech (but it works in Polish too).
perfective - you're thinking of the event from its ending/completion
imperfective - you're thinking of the process
coś do zobaczenia - something to see (and then its done)
coś do widzenia - something to look at... (stressing the process of seeing it)
It's the same thing with the past participles...
Adam był zobaczony w mieście = Adam was spotted in town
Adam był widziany w mieście = Adam was seen (more than one place) in town.
hint: rephrase the sentence so that the noun or adjective/participle is a plain verb and that's the form you use.
Zobaczył Adama w mieście (He saw Adam (once) in town)
Widział Adama w mieście (He saw Adam (more than once) in town)
but what are differences between imperfective vs. perfective verbal nouns?
Basically the same as verbs.... the best aid I ever heard was for Czech (but it works in Polish too).
perfective - you're thinking of the event from its ending/completion
imperfective - you're thinking of the process
coś do zobaczenia - something to see (and then its done)
coś do widzenia - something to look at... (stressing the process of seeing it)
It's the same thing with the past participles...
Adam był zobaczony w mieście = Adam was spotted in town
Adam był widziany w mieście = Adam was seen (more than one place) in town.
hint: rephrase the sentence so that the noun or adjective/participle is a plain verb and that's the form you use.
Zobaczył Adama w mieście (He saw Adam (once) in town)
Widział Adama w mieście (He saw Adam (more than once) in town)
mafketis
29 Feb 2020
Life / New born baby traditions in Poland [26]
How old are you (in general terms)? I've asked a friend or two who grew up before the 00s and they all said birthdays weren't really a thing when they were kids - it was all imieniny...
In capitalistic terms birthdays are more about consumption and so they've been heavily marketed (like buying expensive things for christmas presents)...
irthdays have always been more important.
How old are you (in general terms)? I've asked a friend or two who grew up before the 00s and they all said birthdays weren't really a thing when they were kids - it was all imieniny...
In capitalistic terms birthdays are more about consumption and so they've been heavily marketed (like buying expensive things for christmas presents)...