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Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

hopefully the rest of the world will follow their example! :D

You know how they say..."First they came for the beards, then they came for the ballet and opera stuff and as they came for my helmet there was nobody there anymore"...or so...
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Then, West is doing the worse. Do it better than Turkmenistan.

Erm...not really hard to to:
/wiki/Turkmenistan#Human_rights

...
According to the 2007 Reporters Without Borders World Press Freedom Index, Turkmenistan had the third-worst restrictions on the freedom of the press in the world.
Former president Saparmurat Niyazov enforced a ban on satellite dishes[14] and also banned beards, long hair, ballet, opera and recorded music in Turkmenistan.[15] These restrictions are now being gradually relaxed by the new president Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow. Although there were modest improvements, the government continued to commit serious abuses, and its human rights record remained poor.[16]

Sounds like a creep country!
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Again...your alternative would be? Come on Seanie...gimme some meat!!!

The pragmatic me thinks till we are getting independent from fossil resources at all those countries who have the stuff will be always profit from it where countries without much resources like Germany will always be dependent....
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Do you not think that our E.U. should be unified on it's over dependency on Russian energy, we are all having the same problem, why are you against solving it together?

How?
Who else can supply the EU with the needed energy?
I'm not against solving the problem but I ask you desperatedly for an alternative....you have no idea either, right?

The only real alternative are projects like desertec...but that will need some years...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

I am for a European Union doing business together showing a united front.

Again...come out with an exact scenario please...to do what exactly as an united front???

It is not about Germany being independent but about the E.U. being a bigger stronger force in the world.

Again, great words...but we still need our daily energy in the mean time.

Russia has it - we need it! Other countries tried to abuse german/european dependency on those pipelines going over their soil...tried to use it as a leverage in spats with Russians...ergo Germany decides to diversify their sources.
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Come on people we are part of a union for a reason and energy is a good start :)

Why are you so against it that countries organize their energy directly...here between Germany and Russia? You should know by know that we made some bad experiences with having to many middle men...

You seem nothing to have against german dependency on instable middle men regarding it's energy security, why is that?
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Not quite sure what you meant there?

And I have no idea how a united EU front should work on two not-EU members who disagree
about a gas supply which lets lot's of EU-countries hanging...

Other than paying the money for Ukraine I don't have any idea...

PS: The EU did that actually

EU arranges anti-gas crisis loan for Ukraine

The European Commission has helped Ukraine to secure international loans to prevent a repetition of last winter's gas cut-off.

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the European Investment Bank and the World Bank will together put forward $1.7 billion (€1.2 billion).

euobserver.com/863/28516
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/06/ukraine.russia.gas/index.html

I just think this is exactly where the E.U. should show a united front to benefit us all.

Ja...but to do WHAT? All glaring in Russias or Ukraines direction? WHAT?
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

and it wouldn't be profitable to cut off Poland AND Germany, know what I mean?

They did it already if I remember it correctly...all because of the spat with Ukraine.

Because Russia would lose money if they cut off their gas to a European Union.
I am going for Russia's business perspective.

How, if they don't get paid by the Ukraine?
You see, here lays exactly the crux of the matter...even if other european countries have paid the agreed price they are not getting anything if the pipeline runs over a country who has different ideas...

If Germany and Poland were to be joined on this one it could make for better conditions, stabilizing any fears about being cut off.

Nice words...but a realistic scenario please!

Ukraine is not part of the union.

Also a problem...

Not in the beginning, because the new technology is expensive, but in the long run
it will be profitable (and we finally won't be dependent on Russia for gas).

You will sell us some then, yes? :)
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Is it not possible to appeal to the E.U. commission on trade?

What could they do if Russia cuts off Ukraine because they don't want to pair the regular price???

If Russia wanted they could cut Poland off, the pipe line going through here would deter such an action.

How so? We had some winters already were everybody from Ukraine downwards was cut off because of the disagreements!

and I would like to see a united E.U. front.

Do do what exactly?
Pressing Ukraine to pay? Lending Ukraine the money??? Threatening Russia with war??? What???

so people are happy enough with how it is progressing.

Good to hear...:)

It is so-called "shell gas" or "tight gas" very difficult to extract from its deposits.
We don't have the technology to get it, but the Americans do and if all goes well
(the final research drillling will be done this month) we will have enough gas for
the next 100-200 years without the necessity of importing it.

Cool...you will get rich quickly! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

It just seems more like a game of geopolitical chess but I could be wrong.

Well, diversifying your energy resources is a smart thing to do....what would you had done if you were in Germany's boots?
We were the victims of regular soviet/ukrainian/polish spats with regularly being cut off from the energy too...

The people I talk to here also see him as a better face for Poland. That is not to say that he is not scrutinised at every turn but when people talk about Politics here you have to read between the lines as it is generally quite negative.

Well, I'm not an insider in polish domestic politics but I really wonder how Poles would wish for another Kaczinsky or say that "Tusk sells Poland down ther river"...maybe voting Mrs. Steinbach for german chancellor would be an equivalent? ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Perhaps I assumed too much when I assumed it would be more expensive to go underwater.
Is it cheaper?

In the long run yes, no fee to pay for Ukraine and Poland to use their soil.

That's three years ago BB, is Tusk liked in Germany?

Quite, yes. He is seen as serious politician.
It's also with Tusk there is now an agreement that Poland will get gas from the pipeline too if they so wish, something the terrible twins were also dead set against!
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Oh these wink marks...

Actually if Poland burned Malborg to the ground no World Wars would happen since there would be no Prussia,

No cool Marienburg castle, no Prussia....I would miss them! *snif*
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Oh Seanie...you know all about Genscher but nothing about German history???

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Schumacher
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

Yes, communism was a system which stymied the masses but it suppressed the natural instincts of being jealous of your neighbour for having material goods.

Oh Seanie, you couldn't be more wrong.
Living for decades in a socialist/communist environment didn't made people equal (regardless what they told you in your school)....there were lot's of apparatschiks, informers, gov bootleckers who profited from it and had more than the common folks...

But compared to a free western society you had barely the means to change upwards yourself without becoming such a spineless bootlecker yourself...try to feel the bitterness and envy and hate springing from that for a moment.

If people had led affluent, quiet lives there wouldn't had been a revolution!

PS: I believe Borrka means Polands history, not the current time...
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

I definitely prefer German life standards,

There is no reason Poland can't achieve it too in the nearer future, you have definitely the potential.

We can't change history though...
Bratwurst Boy   
5 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

I dislike the way the E.U. isn't showing a unified front on this issue with Russia.
The Nord Stream line circumventing Poland to Germany shows the E.U's weakness, in my opinion.
Are we a European Union or still stuck in our internal conflicts?

Please read post #11 for an explanation...it was more a matter of pragmatism as it isn't your country dependable on b*itching neighbours being cut off the much needed energy too when those neighbours have a dispute...again...
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

Yes, Germany's mainstream press is also often not perfect (to lefty for my taste) but nobody gets killed and when you want to find another opinion you can do so at least.

And then there is the internet! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

There wasn't a lot of screaming for the US and Brits to take their armor out while 4000 Soviet tanks were sitting next door. US had a nice forward operating country, and Germany didn't have to pump money into strategic defense.

This "sitting next door" was also Germany! That's what I meant with being occupied and not having much choice...certain geopolitical facts didn't made it possible.
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

Regarding Russia...far more democratic than authoritarian...not to say there aren't problems, but seriously.

I have my doubts...the press freedom is nearly non-existent...journalists get threatened and murdered...the approval quote of Putin...er...Medvedev is enormous (maybe the Russians like the style who knows).

Various aspects of the contemporary press freedom situation are criticized by multiple international organisations. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7] According to International Press Institute, the Russian laws, bureaucratic regulations and politically motivated criminal investigations have forced the press into self-censorship.[1] [8] According to International Press Institute, Russia is the most dangerous European country for journalists.[9][1] According to Human Rights Watch, the Russian government control over civil society through selective implementation of the law, restriction and censure.[4]

In 2009 Reporters Without Borders ranked Russia 153th out of 175 in the Press Freedom Index.

There is no free forming of opinion, hence free choice of parties and programs, hence democracy without a free press!
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

"....against each other" was the important point.

You can't call the former PLO now HAMAS state or the Arab theocracies/kingdoms democracies.

Russia? More authoritarian than fully democratic...
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Why? All I am saying Poland should not be dependant neither on Russian, nor on German supplies. Who pays

Just a dream...other than that Poland suddenly finds huge oil resources on it's soil it will be always dependent on other countries for it's energy (like Germany).

Oh and till we find a way to slake our energy thirst with the help of desertec and other renewable energy projects that is...

In the first place, it's a peace project. It creates peace, stability, and safety in the region of Europe that immediately borders Germany

Only as long Germany was able and willing to pay...
Now as Germany hesitated as in the case of Greece you see how "peaceful" Europe became!

The export-oriented German economy profits particularly from this quickly growing market.

Agreed!

It makes no sense to say that the expansion will lead to an additional burden for the Germans.

Didn't you hear the news Nathan? Germany is accused for not importing to much, not spending to much, for saving to much, for exporting to much and hence being the main blame for the european crisis!

And if we want the failed economies to be a bit more like the german economy - oh horror, the mean Nazis are at it again, how dare they!!!

I must admit Germans are losing their enthusiasm quite abit...
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Apr 2010
News / Should Poland made an energy bridge deal with Russia? [122]

Well...that and Germany never had to worry about paying for strategic defense. That might have saved a bit of cash....

Being an occupied country for 50 years...there wasn't much choice!

Exactly. But what about political conflict between Poland and Germany?

Well...in that case Nordstream plays no role at all....(other than that you can't starve Germany of energy in purposely blocking the pipeline anymore)