Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

@kaprys,
I was in Poland for a total of two weeks, several hours in Szczecin this is true, subsequently though, on the outskirts of town at the home of my Polish teacher's brother-in-law! Albeit not a long time in the scheme of things, yet more than enough for my purposes at the time as well as my pocket bookLOL

Surely, perfunctory comments about their own home town oughtn't have been that overwhelming for those whom we met and preferred to speak English. I can only attribute their reaction to cultural differences.

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

Undoubtedly for me, the biggest problem with Polish remains my frequent doubts as to when to apply perfective vs. imperfective verb forms:-) For whatever reason, vocabulary, even the counting, doesn't confound me to the same extent.

Rather as with German, the language with which I grew up and currently teach, unlike Polish, foreign learners must decide when (often why) certain verbs take their respective cases. In Polish, as an adult foreigner learner (being nearly thirty before my first Polish lesson!) I continue to grapple with those aspectual issues.

Then again, I can only speak for myself.

Life / Are Poles flashy? [11]

As I leaf through popular magazines such as Wprost, Polish politicians seems no more immodest than most other politicians! Perhaps flashy isn't the word I'd use, but demure, never!!

Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

@kaprys, I think you underestimate the need for public relations right off the bat. Not everybody will react as you suggest they might.
You also make the assumption that the average Pole off the streets will necessarily know "good" English, at least good enough for an intelligent, pleasant conversation. This is a nice thought, and yet, at least when I was there last, not always the reality.

Granted, most foreigners will be initially shy, perhaps uncomfortable about speaking with strangers in another language. And yet, if such be the case, why not politely admit same, rather than continue with the charade that they really do understand more English than actually is the case?

When I was visiting Szczecin, I was with a German lady friend who spoke no Polish, we were both in our early '30's and were wearing knapsacks. We met up casually with some local students, who, hearing of course that neither I nor Corinne were Polish, began to speak English. Fine. I offered to switch back to Polish if it were easier, to which the one student replied that the group was perfectly happy to continue in English. I then made some remarks about what a lovely Old Town there was, when one of the group hesitated, and said "Oh, maybe it's old. But nobody knows it..."

It was clear that the conversation was above their heads, but, as my travelling partner only spoke English and German, I kept the conversation going for as long as we could. It was like pulling teeth:-)

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

There is much to be said about what Atch stated, in my experience at any rate.
The Irish certainly see themselves as having the proverbial gift for gab, at certain almost devil-may-care way about them, not given to the Poles, who had years of

oppressive Communism, something Ireland was thankfully spared.

Generally, the Poles I've met here in the States, particularly those entrenched in middle age, never struck me a particularly happy lot, nothing that smoking and

a good shot of wodka couldn't cure.

Again however, these are cultural stereotypes, yet are such given the fact that a large number seem to fit that description.

The millennials though are a different matter, I will agree.

Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

In large part agree, Lenka.
Language learning is always a work in progress, no matter how good on is (...or thinks they are)!
If I choose to continue speaking Polish while my Polish interlocutor insists, even claims to adamantly prefer, to speak in English, there is probably a good reason for it:-)

I've been to Europe, lived there, and spent time there over the course of nearly a decade in years past, and have been on occasion more than happy to allow my partner to practice their English, if I could in all truthfulness say to myself, that this person understands where I'm "coming from" with basically native-speaker fluency in order that I can express myself as comfortably as I could with a fellow Yank from back home. In my long experience, that happened only once, maybe twice, in Austria, when I was visiting grad school friends from Krems.

Point 2 is right on the money!

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

@Atch, while I realize I'm being awfully rude by preempting your question on Irish1234's behalf, one of the major differences I've observed between Irish and Poles, is that the former are typically one to joke wonderfully and openly about being a Catholic! They have, so it seems, not only the gift of gab, but more important, a talent for self-deprecating wit.

The Poles, at least those I've known and with whom I'm still in contact, really don't joke about their faith! They tend to take it much more seriously and ritualistically, particularly when speaking with strangers aka foreigners.

Sorry about that:-)

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

Aside from the fact that you're both Catholic, I'd imagine the more subtle cultural differences take a while to get used to....even if you end up speaking English between you.

Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

True enough, and yet I found those with whom I'd spoken pretended perhaps not to notice.
If honesty were the eternal touchstone of any, even superficial, relationship, I figure we'd all kill one another in fit of uncontrolled pique:-)

If someone's goal is to visit another country, particularly if they're a native Anglophone, and immerse themselves in both the language and the culture, not merely to meet someone of the opposite sex, it's especially important to use whatever ruses necessary to ensure that agenda! What harm would be done, if say, you and I met at random, anonymously on the streets of your home town, and you, hearing I was foreigner, decided to switch to English, whereupon I maintained the desire to continue speaking in Polish?

Merely a blow to your sensitive ego, no more, no less.

Life / How to really meet Polish people in Poland and actually socialize with people in their Late 20s/Early 30s? [34]

Best way in any non-native country to "socialize" with the locals in their language, and not, as you post, with other ex-pats, is to do what I did when I was a student traveler, and simply avoid the company and/or contact with those from your own country. I'd go to local bars, outdoor events which don't seem dodgy, attend movies, and in essence, hang out with as many Poles as you possibly can.

If your further goal is to improve your Polish skills, that might be hard in large city, being as today far more people want to practice their English than I was last there in the late '90's, and at least basic Polish was an absolute must!

What I would recommend is to politely feign non-comprehension if your partner insists on speaking English, maintaining the "fiction" that it would be easier for both parties if you guys stuck to Polish:-)

I was last in Europe in 2008, and the ploy somehow worked.

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

Doing what, Johnny?

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

Same difference though, Maf, just different wording:-)

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

I refer you to my favorite Adlai Stevenson retort:

Woman: Senator, I believe every thinking man and woman should vote for you as president of the United States!

Stevenson: That's not enough, madam. I need a majority!

Hitchcock the director is credited with saying, "Actors are like cattle!"
So too, perhaps, the electorate:-)

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

Admittedly, W.A.S.P. tradition frowns on what are perceived as excessive displays of public affection.
For that reason, I could see why Polish diminutives would seem uncomfortable for you.

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

Damn straight, fella!

And that plain stinks.

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

I guess you're referring to those fetching diminutives, right? What's wrong with gradations of intimacy?

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

The question then remains as to why the electorate in either country want their rights slowly but surely taken away from them.

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

Concerning the current topic thread, I feel that there should be freedom of the press in any democratic society, this includes Poland, in which apparently one single "independent" judge has been harassed for wanting nothing more than to have the judicial system free from the constraints of the Sejm.

Imagine Trump dictating how he wants the bench to interpret the law.

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

Foreigners, Poles included, constantly decry the vagueries and inconsistencies of English orthography, Rich, you just can't get around it by saying that Polish inflections are somehow "worse"!

You're comparing apples and oranges, matey:-)

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

Best of luck!

Must be a bit of a culture shock from Ireland to Poland.

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

Is English spelling any saner?
Careful there, Richie, your ol' ethnocentrism is showing again:-)

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

When on the phone, I can sometimes hear others address him the same way.
It may simply be a question of correctness vs. colloquial usage, that is to say
"incorrect", if slangy, conversation.

European workmen on the whole, have a better education/schooling than their
US counterparts in my experience. I don't know this guy except as a super, but
perhaps in Poland he was an engineer and was forced to work in the States
as building handyman.

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

I call my super "Panie Rysku!" and he appreciates the opportunity to speak Polish:-)

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

And the vocative "Ryszku".

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

Yes, exactly.

Genealogy / Does "Ryszard" work as a surname in Poland? [37]

I've mostly heard it as a given name. Sometimes as a middle, but never a surname.

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

Where in Poland do you hail from?

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

If the "piwiarnie" right here in Greenpoint are any indicator, are you sure Poland doesn't really have a pub culture? Recently, we were at such a watering hole and I at least found the atmosphere most convivial:-) Then again, unlike in London, never noticed any children in the Polish version.

Language / Origin of / reason for spelling /tɕi/ as <ci> in the Polish language [11]

Swietna idea. Dobranoc:-)

Work / Moving to Poland from Ireland - starting a professional life [32]

Damn straight you can't.