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jonni   
19 Jan 2010
Food / Schmaltz.. is it still used in Poland [21]

Rendered chicken fat.

They don't use it now. There's something called smalec which is either pork dripping or lard, depending how it's made, but schmaltz isn't used.
jonni   
17 Jan 2010
Life / Poles are not racist [873]

Sorry, but such statements are nothing short of trolling, Blackman.

It is indeed a type of trolling, but also true that Poles have had such drastic changes forced on them over the years that some people are very cautious about change.

Not spies though. :-)
jonni   
15 Jan 2010
News / Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport to close in September [27]

there are quite a few problems associated with concrete laying in cold weather

About five years ago a half finished office block in Warsaw collapsed for that reason. The concrete was cast on site when the temperature was around zero. When spring came, the whole construction project fell down like a pack of cards.
jonni   
13 Jan 2010
Food / Traditionally-Polish salads, help needed [21]

Thanks for the advice. In the end, I made something like 1Jola's recipe, but with red and white beans and using red onion and finely sliced seler natrowy celery (as opposed to celeriac). I was worried I'd made too much (there were 4 salads as a starter for fortyfive people) but they loved it and ate the lot.

Thanks!
jonni   
12 Jan 2010
Real Estate / Can foreigners buy land, house, or apartment in Poland? [60]

can some help me find a deed to property of warsaw poland, at 33 Emili Plater., warsaw poland, the property belongs to my father, the germans /nazis took the property in 1939

You'll need a lawyer specialising in property claims. If the deeds no longer exist, it may take rather longer. One problem is that a lot of city records and archives in Warsaw didn't survive the events of 1944. It could be impossible if someone else was, rightly or wrongly, able to establish ownership after the war and there are no documents to show otherwise. Though it should be worth it, given that the address you mention is right in the centre of the capital and among the most valuable real estate in the country. You should choose a large law firm.

edit

looking quickly on google maps, if number 33 is the pre-war address, then it may well be under the forecourt of Central Station (problematic) or under the Zloty Taras shopping mall (a potential gold mine). Very worth looking into.
jonni   
12 Jan 2010
Life / Fat People in Poland? [161]

As for fat Poles Ive seen a few in the UK, mainly men, the odd female, but they have a long time to go before they catch up with the Brits,

I see the exact opposite here in Warsaw.

Though unlike UK, the women tend to be slim here and men, even young ones, often have real bigos bellies.
jonni   
11 Jan 2010
Work / Teaching English in Zakopane, is it safe? [45]

strzyga

People in Poland are often quite spiritually minded, many too are unhappy with the RC church and are looking for something else. This can be a golden chance for a money-making religious group to find gullible new members.

Some of these new religious movements offer a quick spiritual fix, companionship for the lonely, a feeling of belonging to something. But none of them are cheap, either financially or psychologically.

Churches often overstate the dangers of sects and cults - the Dominican information centre here always takes a position against new religious movements without objectively analysing them. But many are indeed dangerous.

Closer to the topic of the thread, young and vulnerable EFL teachers, away from home and insecure, can be at risk of being recruited by either a cult or a fundamentalist Christian group. I've seen this happen.

But thankfully in Poland the risks are few - there isn't much chance of being snared by a sinister cult, and certainly not in Zakopane.
jonni   
11 Jan 2010
Work / Teaching English in Zakopane, is it safe? [45]

I can't help but notice that your avatar is on the 'Symbole Zła' warning poster.

I noticed that too. It's the Eye of Horus: Check it out and decide for yourself if it's a 'symbol zła'. I just use it because I like it. :-)

I noticed they also consider the Yin/Yang to be a symbol of evil, which would come as a surprise to most people from China.

About sects in PL, there certainly are some. I suspect more so in the provinces that in Warsaw, and surely not in Zakopane.

Scientology has a presence but is largely underground - they do discreet voluntary work but don't actively recruit, and aren't allowed to by law. Hare Krishna are quite big in Warsaw, and have been around since the mid-80s. Bahai (sect or not is another matter) has a presence, especially in the provinces. The 'Great White Brotherhood' (the ones that were stockpiling petrol ready for the end of society then got fined a fortune when it leaked out of the underground tanks) have a small presence here, and Osho (the ones that deliberately poisoned hundreds of people in the US with salmonella) are well established and sell a lot of their founder's books.

One (smallish) language school here in Warsaw is very closely connected to a well known sect, but thankfully they don't try to recruit their native speakers. Many if not all of the Poles working there come from within the membership though, and I suspect their students get the soft sell. One of their corporate clients switched to me because the soft sell had become a little less soft.
jonni   
10 Jan 2010
Food / What is your favorite Polish Vodka? [653]

Goldschlager is originally Swiss.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldschl%C3%A4ger
The one traditionally from Gdańsk is called Goldwasser, though it's now produced in Germany.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwasser
jonni   
8 Jan 2010
Food / Polish kishka [76]

Kiszka freezes well.
jonni   
7 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Biskupin, powiat Zninski, Poland [3]

During the war, the Germans did a lot of excavation in and around Biskupin - maybe they destroyed the older houses in the village?
jonni   
7 Jan 2010
Food / Traditionally-Polish salads, help needed [21]

Hi,

I'm going to a meal at the weekend here in PL, where different people are making different courses. The starter will be several salads, and I'm doing one of them.

Can anyone suggest a good recipe? It's for 45 (yes, forty-five) people, and shouldn't need anything doing at the last minute.

I doesn't have to be traditionally Polish, but at least 30 of the people eating it will be Polish, and mostly over 50, so should fit well with Polish tastes.

I'd have done a herring salad, but somebody else is doing that.

Any and all suggestions are very welcome!
jonni   
4 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

And out of said 100.000 approx 4000 turned out to actually have Jewish ancestors, from FŻP and they know their stuff

Roots, remember aren't only about biological ancestry. Don't you think there's been centuries of cultural dialectic?
jonni   
3 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

4000 to be specific, there's sites and associations that are busy with that, approximately 4000 Polish citizens re-discovered their Jewish roots, again from a country of 38 milion people, hardly basis to speak of Jewish roots of Poland.

And over 100,000 contacted the relevant agencies in the first couple of years of opening.

Not such a small number.
jonni   
3 Jan 2010
Life / Nicorette Inhalator - are they available in Poland? [10]

Trevek

I have one - they're so-so. Look nice though. I've noticed they're on sale in quite a few places. The law must have changed, because until recently the refill cartridges were illegal here.

Nicorette inhalators are a different thing, like an e-cigarette but without the electric bit. They are available at larger chemists in Poland.
jonni   
3 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

Are there Jews in skirts???

I suspect you mean kilts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_tartan
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

vetala

A small history, but an interesting one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Scotland
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

Centuries ago, when they were chased out of all other countries. Where else in the world could they live?

Yes. Poland's borders (Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth) in the late middle ages went from the Baltic to the Black Sea. A very large area.

all other countries

Never from Scotland. The only country in Europe to never at any point in history have any anti-semitic law or decree.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

Threatened in what way?

The Khazars followed several religions and are not, repeat are not, the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews.

Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

People feel threatened by that concept.

Who feels threatened? Seems a bit paranoid.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

By people who believe acknowledging Khazars is a threat to the legitimacy of Israel.

Who are they? Sounds like a crank theory. The ancient Khazars are irrelevant to Israel.

What about historical accuracy?

What about historical accuracy? Backed up by scientific proof?

How could they just disappear? I don't believe they did. They moved west :)

They didn't disappear. Their culture largely did. They stayed where they always lived, and the local inhabitants of that region are their descendents.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Food / Polish kishka [76]

pszczola

That's how the French do it (and me too sometimes). I've never seen it here in Poland though, except in my own kitchen.

Try adding coarsely chopped apples if you do it that way.

red apples by the way, not green - the green ones just turn to a mush :-)
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

Hence no jewish roots! It can't be that hard, can't it

Cultural Roots. Not DNA ancestry. A culture has roots without reductionism on the basis of DNA.

would you call Poland having german roots?

Yes, culturally very much so. Poland has never been an island, with eyes closed to all around it. Nor has Germany.

Jonni has been brainwashed into believing Khazars are a bad thing

Brainwashed by whom, PP? I'd really like to know.

For for the record, I don't now, nor have ever thought "Khazars are a bad thing". They are an anvient civilisation, long gone, and a long way from Poland. The Khazar Khanate died out centuries ago, and the descendents of the Khazars largely remained in that area. DNA evidence proves that. They did not become Aszkhenazi Jews, as some active racists like to claim. DNA proves that also.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

How come you always talk about "jewish roots of Poland" then all the time?

Read the title of this thread. Go on, just read it. At the top of the page.

ROFL:)You don't even know the meaning of the word "roots" and think ethnicity is the same as culture.Back to school with you! ;)

So go on then. What's your definition of roots? I can predict what you'll say, but lets hear it anyway.

but somehow you think it is the polish majority who assimilates to the jewish minority if that happens and not the other way around...a curious belief to say it politely!

I'd would be very curious indeed if I had said it. You keep doing that! Putting words into people's mouth to try to back up your groundless argument.

For reference, the sentence I'm writing now is the first time I've used the word 'assimilates'.

Can you deny that Polish culture has absorbed elements from Jewish life? I've already given examples of cuisine and vocabulary - do you want more examples?
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

There is ethnicity AND there is culture!

How would you delineate?

Is Poland in it's majority formed culturally by Jews?

Who said that? Not me, not anyone else.

I think you'd better learn a new technique of discourse. Otherwise it just looks like you're making up points and then disagreeing with yourself.

Where there Jews who assimilated and left their jewish heritage behind to adapt to german or polish culture, you bet!

I'm glad you're now agreeing with me. :-)

Remember it happens both ways. No culture can have contact with another on a significant scale and not absorb some values or traits.
jonni   
2 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Jewish Roots of Poland [638]

Facts do neither for you, don't they!

Doesn't take long, does it.

Has chinese food german roots next?

The Chinese food served in Germany probably has.

The facts are this. That the culture of Central Europe is in part influenced by Jewish culture. This is part of the roots of modern German and Polish cultures.

It is proved by linguistic, artistic, philosophical, literary and culinary dialectic.

Ethnicity is about culture. Not DNA.

But you know this really.