History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]

No, don`t forget your roots Poles. Ancients are eternal. What are we without our roots. Just leaf on the wind.

Goddess Mokosh - Transformation of the Sacred Feminine - Rev. Dr. Isidor - from Serbia

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Mokosh Folk Band / Anastasiya Voytyuk / Brian Lahaie / Tangi Ropars / Jaash Singh - from Lviv Ukraine

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History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]

You know about that Roman fascination with Egypt. See, it was with the reason. First Romans were Egyptians that mixed with European natives (many says Sarmats). Most probably that is why west of Europe always tend to its darker roots.



Egyptian Godess Hathor, 2000 years before Christianity


Later in Semitic world, comes the myth of Jewish Messiah and Yeshua that was born of a virgin.

For Slavs (ie Sarmats, ie native Europeans) in general and particularly Poles, even in the early middle ages, Mati Syra Zemlya was one of the most important deities. She was also known as Mokosh. She watches over spinning and weaving, shearing of sheep and protects women in child birth. Great ancestral mother. Also, Mokosh is also the mother of the twin siblings deities Jarilo and Morana and therefore ancients pictured her sometimes surrounded with children, what later made easier for ancients to accept idea about Christian Holly Mother and child.



Mokosh with Jarilo and Morana

Let's get back to the topic

History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]


No, its not. Its much older.


That would be insult. Word pagan is pejorative. Let us stay civil.


No, you didn`t understand. First Jews and first Slavs founded each others trading and exchanging goods. Later, Jewish traders started to hunt and sell Slavs.


Difference between Teutons and ancient Slavs is that there was no ancient Teutons. First Teutons were result of mixing between native Sarmatians (ie Slavs) with Romans and Jewish, Moor and Arab traders in environment of administrative Latin language (or sometimes some other, dependable who ruled city state). So, quite of mix and Teutons come to be. Then they became aware of themselves and they acquired name of province Germania > Germanics. They then start to spread on the account of other native Sarmats (ie Slavs). Rest is history of Drang Nach Osten.

and yes, most were put to the sword in order to be Christianized.

History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]

No, modern roots of my world is native Slavic European culture, that is birthplace of Western world. What says geographical west of Europe, really doesn`t matter.

So, things are very simple. Poland and Poles would have to decide. They are Slavs and by that Western or they are assimilated by who knows whom.

History / What are Poland's pagan roots? [62]


Far from it. Ancients aren`t negative beings, neither the ancient spirits and deities that were part of our pre-Christian culture. Even word `paganism` is insulting but, Christianity that much used to insult opposition that many even don`t notice insults.

you know, for us Serbians ancients are religious thing. We who are St. Sava`s Orthodox we worship them (ancestors) as last Slavs who still worship family SLAVA custom, that was said to be back in past universal Slavic custom. Sure, its in kind of Christianized form, to be acceptable.

See, this should be interesting for you,... when we Serbians talk among ourselves about our historical fate, we sometimes think that if we were/are Catholics it would be better for us. Then, we remember fate of Poles and we realize that those who inflicted greatest damage to them, those who killed them most, those who invented whole genocidal theories against Poles, were and are exactly other Christians, other Catholics.

But, don`t get me wrong. One can hardly tell who dealt more monstrosities to their Christian brethren, Orthodox Byzantine Emperors or Popes of Rome. Its a death race. So, i don`t talk of it who is preferable or who is worse. i know that we Serbians suffered equally from Eastern and from Western Romans.

There is that untold very old rule. Worship Jesus Christ or you shall perish. Then silence. Globally accepted silence and acceptance that heathens needs to be killed and that it is alright. Yes, many live in fear. We actually all live in fear, to prove ourselves and to be good in betrayal of ourselves, of our ancestors. Its because our lives don`t belong to us, somebody decided and we are like a sheep. i know that i am.

nothanks

It won`t work without strict coordination with other Slavs. Even with kind of coordination with Russians. It come to that. Anglos won`t help, not even Vatican. Actually, Anglo are like vultures, to take what remain of Poland and Poles, to assimilate and to put last nail in the coffin.

This time we would need to truly work together, in order to survive.

News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]

This is Poland`s strategic situation, looking from one angle:

* Poland is stuck within the Anglo and Germanics dominated world with prospects of inevitable assimilation, if fails to escape and realistically, alone don`t have capacity to escape.

* In order to escape Poland needs to coordinate with Russia. Now, Russians learned that they can`t control Poland (so there is no direct profit for them in helping Poles), while Poles have heavy opposition to any kind of coordination with Russia (on which Anglos strongly relay).

* In turn, there won`t be any direct coordination between Poland and Russia but, Russia would found interest not to complicate to Poland and even indirectly to help (for Russians do have interest that Poles escape to Anglos)

* So, Poland have Visegrad as its last resort. But, Visegrad countries themselves have their fears and they needs guaranties, which Poland can`t provide. Then Poland play its trump card (that can provided reasons to Russia to act on behalf of Poland, that can keep Russia calm, that have latent and enormous diplomatic influence in China, India, among non-aligned countries, etc, etc) called Serbia and Visegrad becoming truly operational. But, BUT, to activate trump card, Poland needs to make a move to drag Serbia in the game, to give excuse to Serbia to activate all its potentials. Here, my contemplation again ending in some future game that would occur on Kosovo and around Kosovo (where radical Muslims threatening Slaveno-Serbian Christian population) which would force Poland to annul its Kosovo recognition and then even to move Poland to military intervention on the behalf of local Serbians, in order to protect them while in fact desperately seek out solution for its own problems. Now, is Poland capable to do it? For sure Anglos monitor carefully and hold Poland and Polish military pretty well. Sure, there are patriotic circles that shows resistance form time to time. There Anglo control fails sometimes. These circles may trigger the necessary spark. Then, nobody control actions of radical Muslims entirely, 100%. They could act and provide a spark. Serbians themselves may provide spark, no matter all Anglo power.

Anyway, we shall see.

News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]

To put cross on myself i am again old myself. i escaped Anglicization.

Anyway, back to topic. i think that is Poland strategically increasingly interesting, after things like this Brussels. Term Drang Nach Osten may in the future gets different meaning then back in past, one day when western Europeans starts to abandoning their own countries and massively move on the east of Europe.

News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]

Contemplating on Poland`s strategic situation i founded myself mentally deranged and found myself deeply lost. Its also that Charles who visited my country. i am now in internal conflict with myself, too. Charles love Serbia and i want to love Britain to return that love.

So people, all in all, i don`t know am i crazy or utter weakling but i entered my anglicized phase. you all know that (i never tried to hide my shame) i sometimes had may germanized phases but right in this moment my personality exist, from one side as 300% Polish (being Serbian) and, from the other side convinced to be omnipotent Anglo. i would issue 10 prayers to Svetovid and 20 to Jesus (i know Svetovid won`t be jealous, as Jesus knows to be). For sure i`ll be better then and i would again, as relatively sane continue to contribute here.

News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]


Mainly that is to be thanked to Germany. Was it Lech Kaczyński who told exactly that in one occasion (maybe in EU parliament) in reply to some German politician who stated that Poland have much smaller population then Germany, referring to right on influence within EU?

Not to mention that are most of Germans Slavs in origin, forcible germanized and, to put cross on myself, soon to be turkinized and arabized.


well, maybe Prince Charles can do something about that. In two day visit to Serbia he told to Serbs that is Britain with them. He was honest for sure

News / What is strategic meaning of Poland in Europe and in the world? [59]

i sense that Britain becoming reasonable and now starts to better coordinate its politics with Slavs. See, they needed just a little push

Life / Polish movies with English subtitles [87]


no problem ranjite. Try Seksmisja. Its good sf movie

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]


Serbia do have tremendous impact on Polish-Russian relations. Sometimes, Serbia was prevented, temporarily but, Serbia never gave up.

Plus, must be said, Serbia is historically continual strategic partner to Poland and best Poland`s trump card. Evidences for that everywhere.


Exactly. Right now in this moment Serbia mediate between Vatican and Russia.

If Serbia succeed in this that would be fantastic victory for improvement of Poland`s strategic situation.

Nikolic "persuading patriarch to organize pope's visit"
Source: Tanjug, Sputnik Wednesday, March 9, 2016 | 10:22
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Nonsense and lies. i warmly suggests you this book for reading.


Oh man, Serbian honor would stay more then intact.

Considering all sides within Yugoslavia that were involved in conflict only Serbian side never operated by the developed genocide program. Croats had it directed against Serbians. Bosnian Muslims extremists had it directed against Serbians. Albanians had it directed against Serbians. They all coordinated against Serbians. Plus, NATO and EU openly acted against Yugoslavia and Serbians, coordinating with anti-Yugoslavian and anti-Serbian factors.

In all that, Serbians defended themselves. They never first attacked. They didn`t start hostilities. War crimes happened on Serbians. Genocide happened on Serbians. Ethnic cleanings happened to Serbians. Informations about it by mass media was restricted by EU and NATO leading powers.

Then, in turn, some Serbians did commit war crimes. Informations about it by mass media was not restricted, were welcomed and rewarded by EU and NATO leading powers.

As a result, Serbians were demonized in mass media. Still, they recuperate. Slowly but surely. With every new day we have new evidences about bestial crimes committed on Serbians. Crimes approved by EU and NATO officials.

Spot this example. Scandal that involves France's former foreign minister Kouchner while he was head of the UN mission in Kosovo, UNMIK >

Ex-UNMIK chief Kouchner "could testify about KLA crimes"


So, when would western Europe apologize to Serbians?

Back to the topic please

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]


Serbia in Visegrad Group would mean dramatic changes in European and global politics. It would effectively destroy chances for military conflict between Poland and Russia. Imagine political and real life consequences of that fact. Peace. Long term expecting peace. Business opportunities. Figuratively speaking, entire Eastern Europe would become navel of the world`s business. There where Chinese, Japan, Brazilian and Indian, etc businesses hesitate to come to Europe because of western European (ie Anglo-Germano-Franco) dominance, Eastern Europe would be God given fertile ground.

When one wash all the lies spoken against Serbians in last 25 years, one found that is Serbia and Belgrade natural center of UN, on the contrary to New York that is imposed world center, while are Serbians people who stubbornly defend their own and at the same time represent truly open-minded nobility of modern world. This all coming from the fact that is Serbia center of one truly old civilization (Slavic- ie Sarmatian), greatly self-aware cultural center, free from false aggressiveness that is characteristic and true indication of young civilizations. For the Serbians, for all Slavs after all, civilizations of Anglos, Germanics, Franks are all children civilizations, young civilizations. But China, for example, have that quality that coming with eons of self-awareness.

No wonder that last words of Otto Von Bismarck, on his deathbed was: ``Serbia``. No, not only because Bismarck himself was Sorbian by his entire origin. He knew

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]

On the contrary. Serbia is metha-ethnic, metha-spiritual and metha-cultural center around which, in their own orbits, rotate Poland and Russia and other Slavs, too.

Right now, wise Serbians who giving energy to positive changes of our Slavic (ie Sarmatian) civilization wants to see how are two strong conglomerates established, Intermarium around Poland and, Eurasian Union around Russia.

As always, at the end, it would be exactly as we Serbians want.

Great money lying in good Polish-Russian relations.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

Let us hope that would pressure of new Arabic settlers in Germany, result in rise of ethnic awareness among great number of today`s Germans of Sorbian origin and that would they seek to return to their real and only possible Slaveno-Sorbian heritage. Therefore, i hope that would from this chaos within prison that is EU, new and free Sorbian state emerge.

few words about two of greatest sons of Lusatia, father and son

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sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Павле_Јуришић_Штурм



General Pavle Jurisic Strum in uniform of Yugoslavian Royal Army




Captain Pavle Jurisic Strum in uniform of Yugoslavian Royal Army

Captain Pavle Jurisic Sturm, younger (son of General Sturm and of mother Eugenia of nobble Prussian origin) - sacrificed himself to buy time for Draza Mihajlovic- leader of Serbian Chetniks to escape from German ambush - captured by Germans he was tortured and Germans promissed to spare his life if he `admit` that is he German. Captain Pavle refused denying even German origin of his Prussian mother claiming that in his veins exits only Sorbian and Serbian blood which is same.

Sorbian Wedding in Lusatia - Zapust w Strjažowje

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Serbski swěźeń w Chóśebuzu 2012

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God blessed them all

All Slavs (ie Sarmats) with Lusatians! In Lusatia we should defend Poland, Serbia, Ceska, Russia ...

Serbske Piwo!

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]

From the perspective of us Serbians, its important that Poles and Russians at least tolerate each others. It is minimum to satisfy our interest. Sure, good neighborly relations would be even better but, reality is reality considering that both- Poles and Russians, from time to time, rather care for interest of foreigners then for their own. It must be in connection with schemes of worldwide magnates and maniacs.

History / Current Polish-Russian relations.. What do the Poles think? [60]


from the chart you had presented i get impression that confidence in Russia rise among Poles, not falling.

Thanks for info.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

Sorbs were last to abandon faith of the ancients. Like native Americans loyal to their tradition, Sorbs were loyal to native European (Proto-Slavic/Sarmatian) faith. i say that as a compliment. All other Slavs, including Serbs, southern brethren of the Sorbs, accepted to trust in a Semitic man Jesus who was crucified by the Romans and then later his fate was inspiration to Jews and to those same Romans to create new religion- Christianity. Then, Christianity diversed because of inter-Roman disputes and greed for money and Slavs (ie Sarmats) were poisoned with several forms of Christianity. Slavs (Sarmats) then started to kill each others in the name of Semitic man who was by Romans- mortal enemies of Slavs (ie Sarmats), declared to be God.

Feedback / Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts [145]

Member warning system here is quite good. God knows it

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]

i like Poland because Poles for unimaginable long period of time resist to assimilation and destruction by the hordes upon hordes from the wild and demonic western parts of Europe, while at the same time Poles had a nerve to oppose to Russian domination.

News / Poland to return to Catholic tradition? [177]

What is interesting, in one future war, Poles would get bless from Vatican to fight side by side with Russians against Eurabia. Say that this world isn`t crazy

News / Poland to return to Catholic tradition? [177]

what you want to say? That is independent Poland impossible? If Poland`s return to Catholic tradition means that i am all for that. If it needs to strenghten assimilation of Poles i am against it. To whom would serve that- it is question? to Poles or to non-Poles.

News / Poland to return to Catholic tradition? [177]

At the moment when Christianity unites, if things continue in that direction, Poland`s return to Catholic tradition may prove to be best possible move in this global chess party. It would strengthen all Poland`s arguments and provide conditions for Intermarium, with bless of Vatican as well as from Russia. Poland`s power would rise, Poland`s influence would expand.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

If you want to know more

Catherine the Great, Russian Empress was originally Princess of Anhalt-Zerbst (Zerbst - read Serbst).

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

as i see, nobody here suggests punishment of germans or any kind of retribution. After all, they are our people just with deviated mind-set. In any case, in one historical moment, they killed many Sorbs and other Slavs in general. In other historical moment, Sorbs and Slavs didn`t kill enough of them and we are here where we are. We now learning to live in peace and prosper in mutual coexistence. Their problems are their and our. Our problems are only ours.

As for what you say that Sorbs feel themselves as Germans politically and culturally Sorbs, its nonsense. i think that you just joking here and eventually provoke. But never mind.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

Sorbs were subjugated by brute force by germanics

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]


by the Svetovid, this is the mockery of the thread

Sorbs didn`t maintain germanic birth. Sorbs are natives while germanics are freaks and malformed souls

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]


you have pretty distorted view of Sorbian history. When Sorbs dominated what is today`s Germany, God didn`t even have plans for Germans. Not to mention that modern scientific theories seriously abandoning idea of massive migrations in deep European past, except those caused by glaciations (ice ages). See, there was few settlement and few re-settlement of Sorbs (Sarmatians- ie Slavs) in what is today`s Germany (actually all the way to Scotland) before Romans appeared on historical scene (some 2500 years ago) and formed later Roman province of Germania that re-named newly romanized Sarmats of the region into the Germanics and even later Germans. In other words, we speak of Sorbs as native population in what is now Germany, at least in last 5.000 years and, in fact, much deeper in past.

So, sleep well and peacefully. Sorbs are natives of what is now Germany. When Slavs (Sarmatians) become richer and when they start to write their own history, that fact would be recognized by entire world.

Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

Sorbs?

`Sorb` is local Lusatian remain of original native ethnic name of Sarmatians. Same is with ethnic name of `Serb` from Central/South-Eastern Europe. These are reminders that once all Slavs were Sarmats/Sarmatians. This is what linguistic, archaeological and genetic science confirms. This is in accordance with data of old scholars.

So, Sorbs/Serbs are very old people, samorodni (self-born), givers of the Western world, natives, re-claimers.

One won`t mistake if say that are Poles in their meta-ethnicity Sarmatians. Still, one can`t be sure which local form of name of Sarmatians dominated in what is today`s Poland. It could be on root `Sorb`, `Serb`, `Srb`, `Surb`, etc versions recorded by historians. Anyway, ethnic name of Poles came to existence in further evolution of Sarmatian name in the region, in specific historical circumstances. That means that if one who is Sorb today, can also consider himself to be Polish at the same time, if feel so. No mistake here because Poles are essentially aware of their Sarmatian (ie Slavic) meta-ethnicity and don`t denied it.

Also, i have to say, Sorb shouldn`t become German because it is failure, abandoning of original (Sarmatian- ie Slavic) culture. Germans themselves are Sorbs, Sarmatians that were romanized and then germanized. In fact, great majority of western Europeans are Sarmatians- Sorbs/Serbs.

So, Sorb or Polish, whatever you choose is correct.

Love / Valentines Day & Polish men [130]

It is sad that all Slavs honor Valentines Day while failed to honor some of old Slavic deities. Sure, Serbians are kind of exception here with their celebration of family Slava custom and Vidovdan (day of Svetovid).