News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

Horror. I have no words. But listen.... We Serbians have a proverb: ``Granny gave money to dance and now wants to give double to stop dancing.`` This is how Poland`s NATO membership looks to me. Obligations to NATO only complicates to Poland.

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Good. Good. Principles of wisdom with females are universal.

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I know you didn`t. You spoke of your Polish wife, how you listen to her.

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Tell it to your wife.


Now I have proof that you aren`t Polish. There is no Pole who would say something like that about Sarmatians. That about Sarmatians being Iranians is Anglo-Germanic mutilation of Slavic (ie Sarmaian) heritage. Still, no matter having their own opinion on Sarmats, Poles silently accepting Anglo-Germanic mutilation of their history .... Sure, well, its easy to them. Poles have us who are crazy in family- Serbians, to fight never-ending battles. But, its not nice, you see.


Not exactly my mission here but, when we are at it, God knows that would things move in that direction if I gets ruling power somehow. In a blink of an eye I would penisize opposition. Democratically, of course. But of course. Svetovid publicly and Christian differences keep at home ili marš u pičku materinu (sorry, this rudity is just for artistic purposes).


Eccentric? Me? Please, stop to defend me here.

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Why you complaint to me? That is your wife, not mine.

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No, no, state of eternal conflict between Poles and Russians isn`t in Serbian interest. No way, but you seams like to provoke people. I never suggested that Poles needs to be dominated by Russia. All who knows history of Polish-Serbian relations, knows that Serbians and Poles together resisted to attempts of Russia`s domination. There were periods when Serbians conflicted with Russians. Then, there were periods of cooperation. It is fact that Serbians differ from Russians but also, we share belonging to common Slavic civilization. We can`t denied that. So, despite our differences, we cooperate when hostile non-Slavs threaten either of us.

Anyway, that what Serbians want from Poles is that they start to be truly independent, from western Europe, from Russia, from anybody. Believe it or not, such a Poland we Serbians want. It suits us best. Its because only independent Poland can secure independent mentality of Poles and, exactly that they need if they wants to restore Sarmatia. They need to wants it passionately, desperately, like necessity for breathing. See, along that path I like to dream of future Poles and future Serbians. And we shall know no fear. Never again.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

There is hope.

Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

Sweden can be saved only if return to its Slavic roots. Only in that case. I look forward to see Sweden in Intermarium with rest of us who are normal.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

So that is PRL. Thanks for explaining.

But, why would today`s Poland remind of PRL? USA have its interests, Russia have its interests, Britain, Serbia, France, China, Germany, Turkey, Japan, etc, etc. All have their interests. For sure Poland too have its interest.

Then, borders are changing, with amin from Poland or without amin from Poland. So, what is gonna be? Poland should be shy? Sado-mazohistic maybe? Or, Poland should be vigilant and open?

See, only Poland which is aware of its own interests and shows intent to fight for those interests, may deserve right to be one of global centers in world that globalize and now, as we all see, turning into the Multi-Polar world. Rule or be ruled, that`s in question now. Show muscles, backbone. Get erection.

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What is PRL mafketise? Is it kind of PMS?

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

I think that Poland needs to start to talk to Russia. Nicely. Without humiliation but, nicely. We Serbians would do our part but, Poland should make a move. Nice one.

See, I don`t think how is Poland in danger and should talk with Russia about it. No, its not about that. Its just, regions (map/borders) around Poland changes. What would Poland gain there, depend more from Russia then on Germany. With USA-Russian understandings and with Pope`s blessings to Russia, I think that Poland can gain a lot of if just her politicians aren`t agents of Britain, France and Germany. If they are, well, not only that Poland won`t acquire new territories but, Poland may found itself in troubles.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

I think, if Russia label Lithuania as state that isn`t serious, changes would occur. What kind of changes, one can`t tell with certainty. For sure, Lithuania don`t helping here but pushing things exactly in that direction.

Now, Lithuania bordering with Russian enclave Kaliningrad. Who knows, Russia may decide to establish land connection with Kaliningrad. Who knows. It may then lure Russia to digest Estonia and Latvia, too. Just, in that case, it would jeopardize balance between Poland and Russia on Baltic and I don`t like it. I don`t know how could Russia compensate Poland, in that scenario.

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I agree. And how they using that freedom? Are they independent? In fact, they comprehend their independence as free choice not to be independent but subject of (Germanic) civilization that is in conflict with Slavic world. So what should they expect from Slavs?


to some degree. Then, Lithuanians entirely decided not to exist as Slavs.


you speak of Adam Mickiewicz (1798-1855)? If so then he thought highly of Serbian epic poetry and chose it as a theme of his lectures at Collège de France. You say he is of old Lithuanian origin?

You do know that oldest Serbian ethno-epic poetry actually don`t differ ancient Lithuania and Poland? For ancient Serbians Poles and Lithuanians were Ledjani (Ledeni-Ljudi), meaning in Eng. `Ice people`, `People from the frozen land`. By some, these ethnic label for Poles/Lithuanians refers on ancient times when our common ancients (from North) and (from South) communicated and when southern population (from warmer climate) simple designated population (from colder climate) as `people from frozen land`. That could be linguistic insight into life of our common ancestors during Ice age. See, Goethe, Grimm brothers and J.R.R.Tolkien, all examined Serbian language for its ancient dimension. Many Europeans who grow up with fairy tales of Grimm brothers even don`t know that Grimm brothers were inspired by Serbian folklore and epic poetry that via Goethe come to them thanks to Serbian linguist and collector of old verbal traditional songs, Vuk Stefanovic.

Alright, that`s another story...

In any case, I contemplated a lot on Lithuania in past few years and had hope (rather naive dream) of restoration of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Its all sad how they fallen to the Germanization. And who knows what would now be. Is it even possible to come back from germanization? With Russian help? Or, with Polish help?


he did? Same Adam Mickiewicz? Great man he was then

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

LATEST NEWS - situation possibly already escalate

Lithuanians fear Putin plans to "test NATO"

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Poland do have choice, in situation when NATO mistaken and attacked Serbians, while Russia shows signals that act on the side of Serbs. Polish patriots should then choose to join in war against NATO. That`s only way for Poland to survive. Slavic Poland.

Actually, strategic mistake of leading NATO and EU powers was to attack Serbians. That way they turned Poland against themselves and forced Poland to sooner or later abandon NATO.

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If Russia cross the borders of Poland and attack, then I am sure, Serbians would side with Poles.

So, Russia won`t attack Poland and, Poles would refrain themselves from attacking Russians because they know that this time Russia and Serbians sided to respond to attack of common Slavic foe. Same foe that attacked Yugoslavia, sponsoring Nazis in Croatia, sponsoring mujaheeines in Bosnia and Kosovo and sponsoring Nazi banderists in Ukraine. If that foe decide to spread front on Lithuania, so be it and Poland should then abandon NATO and side with Serbians and Russians.


That`s how it function. Serbians are point of balance and when final moment come, both- Poland and Russia will align themselves with Serbians because Serbian foes also regularly represent foes of Poles and Russians.

How act Serbia? Serbia don`t act but just stand. Stand. Its our foes who picking us and that lead to establishing of balance between Poles and Russians. Their internal patriotic elements care of it, carefully monitored by the rest of Slavic world- Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians.... while Serbians merely encouraging that process.

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See, that was that anti-Serbian propaganda all about, all these years. To prepare ground for hate on Serbs, while Serbs were targeted and in case that Serbians manage to retaliate.

But, it doesn`t matter anymore. Winner would write history. We Serbs learned that lesson. So we shall win.


Russia won`t attack Poland and won`t expose itself to risk to lose alliance with Serbians. That`s how shall be.

And, you should stop involving Poland at a time when even Britain deflecting from EU, when even USA deflecting from its NATO obligations. They started and they now deflecting. How convenient. This with Lithuania, if crisis escalate, is part of same war that started with western European, USA and Islamic league`s attack on Yugoslavia. Plus, many other conflicts in which global powers engaged in last 20 years, which had aim to encircle Russia with NATO and, from Russian side, to repel that encirclement.

So, what Poland has with that? If not on same side with Yugoslavia and Serbians, Poland should at least refrain itself from any involvement in conflict. What I know, Poles are decent Slavs and they won`t betray Serbians. Poles won`t side with Germans, Turks and Saudis against us.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]


Yes, its very sad story.


its all questionable, my dear.

As you see for yourself, Lithuanians betrayed principles of old alliance with Poles and Serbians. Actually, Lithuanians betrayed themselves. And I think that Serbians won`t allow any escalation between Poland and Russia. No, it won`t happen and, whole NATO can fart from desperation because of such a Serbians stance.

As for Lithuanians. Well, after they betrayed themselves and spat on Poles and Russians, we Serbians owe them nothing. Plus, they sided with Germanics and Anglos, embracing Nazi ideology that these days turning into Nazi-Islam. Who knows, maybe now only Russians can save them.


Thank you but I have something else on my mind.


Serious or not, they provoke Russia and judging by development, Russia won`t tolerate that for long. NATO or no NATO, Trump or no Trump, I think, after conflict, Lithuanians themselves wouldn`t care for anything, if you understand me.


Yes, that, too. Arrogance of their political representatives is famous already. I heard that entire society actually goes arrogant.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

Well, pattern is the same. Small countries, with people of Slavic origin, that due to historical circumstances become non-Slavic, while tolerated by much stronger Slavs. Now, those same smaller countries continuing to represent problem to Slavs in the region, serving to hostile non-Slavic powers.

But, I do feel pity for Lithuania. We Serbians had positive experience with Lithuanians during Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth where we Serbians played role of military elite. Just back in those time, Lithuanians at least shown minimal respect for Slavic culture and people. But, from long time ago Lithuania turned to Germanics and Nazism. Today, they don`t have respect even for the Poles. Its a pity actually.

News / How serious is existence of Lithuania as independent state between Poland and Russia ? [72]

Lithuania should immediately follow Serbian example and declare its military neutrality on global military alliances. Meaning, should go out of NATO. At once. If they failed to do so, it would be futile to complaint later. Tomorrow could be late. Very late.

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I want? I don`t want anything. We all know that tensions exist, more or less inspired from all sides mentioned in title of the thread and, plus, having in mind outside influences and historical factors. So, I think that topic deserve examination.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


See, Wincige, you and likes of you, crucial mistake was/is to always insist to point how are Serbs equal to Russians. It underestimate Polish logic and actually play on Polish-Russian antagonism in order to minimize Serbians in the eyes of Poles.

It is truth that Poles do have historically negative experience with Russia. But, they have more then positive historical experience with Serbians and it is completely different issue, with primordial positive emotions. Now, when you come to Poles and insist that are Serbs same as Russians, you actually force Poles to think better about Russians. That in situation when nothing on this Earth was able to force Poles to change their negative opinion about Russians. Upload of Serbian factor in Polish thinking about Russians was tactical mistake. Serbians do affect Polish opinion, same way as they affect opinion of Russians. Every civilization have its cornerstone, its backbone, its old core. That role Serbians play within Slavic world.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Late Polish president Lech Kaczinsky was great brother to Serbians. Let God give peace to his noble Sarmatian soul. Kaczinsky trusted to Serbians and knew that in Polish-Russian dispute, Serbians always sided with Poles.

You know, Poles can pray for good Serbian-Russian relations. These good relations should give confidence to Poles that Poland isn`t targeted by Russia.

That what Serbians can do for safety of Polish children is much more then NATO can provide. A lot more. Even in situation when that same NATO actually complicate to Poles. That much I can tell you.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


did they?


What you expect in a world without order (say one great thanks to Clinton`s for that)? What should Russians do in a situation when they sow how USA and western Europe behave on sovereignty of states? In that situation Russia merely reacted by its historical right. Crimea was always Russian and they just closed that question.


You fantasize here.

Why would country that can sc*** even USA, Britain, France or Germany decide to waste time with killing of presidents of smaller states?? Where is sport in that?

Plus, Kaczinsky traveled to Russia in order to improve relations with Russians.


I don`t have that impression. I just read some books of Russian classics.


If it is up to them, they would annex entire Slavic world to Russia. But, they tried that and it was proved to be impossible. So, they won`t repeat mistake.


fantasy.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Why Russians didn`t returned the aircraft to Poland? Aircraft can prove assassination but there is probably something with proof that can lead to uncertain conclusion (example: its not clear from where originate explosion; from inside or from outside). That`s why.

Now, it is one to prove that it was assassination but, with such a proof, if there are uncertainties, final blame would fall of Russia. So, let us presume that Russians didn`t do it but that they are sure that it was assassination after analyzed evidences. Then, let us presume that they concluded who assassinated Kaczinsky. What would Russians with that truth? Whatever they say, it would look like that they tries to cover themselves and blame some other side. Or it could look like that they invented evidences, what would even increase suspicions against them- what would have dramatic impact on image of Russia not only among Poles but in front of whole world.

That is why truth about death of Lech Kazcynsky must stay secret. It was perfect murder whoever did it. Russia may know the truth but, can`t help anything about it. Russia may even be forced to hide truth. Perfect murder.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Once Poland existed between Germany and Russia. Things are better today. Poland exist between two Donald`s.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Lech Kaczyński is immortal. True man, true Sarmatian, Slavic best.

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

My brain is protected. I am immune on your attempts to penetrate

Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

By the God, Polish Pope was white as Snowman. What else this Rubik want.