News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

I remember Polskie ZOO (though when I first saw it I didn't understand so much....)

youtube.com/watch?v=EcC3eNu17yc

Language / Grammar - difference between "jaki" and "co" in Polish language [43]


It can mean that, but in google...

"co za budynek rzadowy miesci sie przy ul. smyczkowej 4 ? " (what kind of government building is at ul smyczkowa 4?)

"czy ktoś wie co za budynek powstanie przy meissenera 18 " (does anyone know what kind building will be built by meissner 19?)

"Czy mógłbym prosić o wyjaśnienie co za budynek znajduje się na zdjęciu poniżej kościoła?" (could I ask for a explanation of what kind of building is in the picture beneath the church?)

Co to za is more common in questions, I think.

Language / Grammar - difference between "jaki" and "co" in Polish language [43]

Off the top of my head (non-native speaker)

jaki dom - big? small? red? old?

jaki pies - big? nice? breed?

co za budynek - school? offices? government? apartment building?

jaki - is more about description

co - is more about function

the two might overlap a bit at times

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Part of joining the EU is agreeing that the EU has a say in disputes between members. The Czech republic has complained that the Polish mine is having adverse affects across the border.

What would you want to happen if it were the other way around, Czech mines depleting water and polluting Poland?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


but not in cases where the fetus is not viable... this case both factors were in play and the doctors (fearing legal repercussions from a government willing to persecute them) chose to be conservative

bad laws (like Polish abortion law and the ruling of the constitutional tribunal last year) lead to bad outcomes....

Life / Wszystkich Świętych (All Saints Day) // Dzien Zaduszny (All Souls day) [106]


your link doesn't work, try this

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/1-listopada-biesiada-na-cmentarzu-tak-romowie-obchodza-wszystkich-swietych/pmdv38k

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Misogynist. I called it first! Women are baby carriers and nothing else to him.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


They make Poland look bad, with a dodgy government that doesn't pay its debts. Together with the lex TVN fiasco (trying to stab a key ally in the back) investors would be crazy to put money into Poland.

Suppposedly PiS is gearing up a PRL style government hate campaign against the EU, which will be hilarious and I doubt if it will be successful

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

A lot of people are deflecting from this case, which seems to be the direct result of the PiS driven ruling by the constitutional tribunal last year.

What should the doctors have done?

A. terminate the unviable fetus so that the mother can be treated more quickly and have a greater chance of recovery?

B. wait for the fetus to die 'naturally' (knowing that the longer that takes the greater the danger to the mother)?

C. (something else - be specific)?

Only one person has answered so far. I'm not interested in screeds one way or the other, just what should have been done in this case (in your opinion).

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


I was referring to this particular case... and not the general question of viability. Personally my idea is that natural viability (the age at which the fetus can physically survive without the mother) is an important (if fuzzy) boundary. I'm fine with restrictions after that point (somewhere around the sixth month IINM) to cases like this where the fetus cannot realistically be saved and its continued life endangers the mother).

to put it more clearly I'm fine with readily available abortion early in the pregnancy and restrictions kicking in later.


If you believe abortion is murder then you want every woman who's ever had an abortion behind bars. There is no statue of limitation on murder.


True and irrelevant in this case.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Topic for another time.

What, with what is known of this case should the doctors have done.

A. terminate the unviable fetus so that the mother can be treated more quickly and have a greater chance of recovery?

B. what for the fetus to die 'naturally' (knowing that the longer that takes the greater the danger to the mother)?

C. (something else - be specific)?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Because it's an invasive procedure that does involve risk for the woman getting it and it does involve ending a human life. The need for an abortion is a signal that something has gone wrong.

And, in some cases it's the least bad option.

I'm pro-choice but that doesn't mean I approve of some women who get abortions, just that it's not my call to make.

It's my understanding that in this type of case (loss of amniotic fluid), there is essentially no way to save the fetus but waiting for it die can put the mother's life at risk (and the mother's life counts more than the fetus).

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Your hatred of women beyond their capacity as breeding stock is.... noted.


You're making more strawmen than a wizard of oz convention.... abortion should be safe, legal and rare. At times it's the least bad option and simple across-the-board bans are incredibly nihilistic and anti-life.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Noone is "for" killing the unborn. But regrettably sometimes that is the least bad option (as in this case).


what was the mistake? not performing an abortion?

given Ziobro's jihad against a doctor that was in now way guilty of any kind of malpractice... the doctors have every right to be cautious in following even the most insane laws passed by the dingbats running the country.

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


Are you saying a woman didn't die at least partly because doctors did not perform a medically necessary abortion?

What should have happened in the case in your opinion?

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

No.


PiS failing to consider the consequences of one of their harebrained schemes.... let me put on my shockface...

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]


The Polish Constitutional Tribunal has ruled that abortion of unviable fetuses is in violation of the constitution.


...or against abortion. Both sides engage in distortion and falsehoods, so let's concentrate on this case.

A little girl has lost her mother because for the current Polish government, an unviable fetus is more important than her....

News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

A 30-year-old woman has died of septic shock after doctors could not perform an abortion on an unviable fetus (special hat tip to the Polish Constitutional Tribunal for that).

abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polish-protesters-blame-womans-death-abortion-law-80910893

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Mean the sensationalist articles that (I assume) were written by RC spies...

Life / Wszystkich Świętych (All Saints Day) // Dzien Zaduszny (All Souls day) [106]

Extremely so.

European holidays are often divided into a somber part (advent, lent) and a happier, fun part (christmas, easter).

With the late october/early november holiday Poland kept the somber part while the US kept the fun part.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Yeah, a very underreported chapter in Polish religious (including what was probably undercover RC agitation.....)

Study / Various education and school issues in Poland. Opinions, stories, controversies. [1006]


No such thing as "online education" there are various types of online activities that sort of emulate education but not much learning actually goes on...

Any attempts to close schools should be met by teachers going in anyway.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


Then you should want the EU to do well rather than wish it (and the countries in it) ill....

Language / Oj bidaku ! [22]


That information is at the link I posted. Click the word in blue.

News / Poland highest inflation in 20 years [319]


And hiring by nepotism and connections, don't forget that.

Language / Oj bidaku ! [22]


That happens, but the more official form is bidaka

sjp.pl/bidaka

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

I've been to Płock a few times and was fascinated by the Mariawici, once I was taken to the hardcore Mariawici that remained true to the original doctrines of the founder. My hosts (both RC) had nothing but positive things to say about both groups. The city version apparently provide free services for those RC who can't afford RC prices...

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


It's not Roman Catholic? Is it in Płock?

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [165]


What decade are we talking about? Is he (are you) older than I'd imagined?

Food / Poland-Tea or coffee land? [165]


Another name for it is "kawa zbożowa".... Inka was the most famous brand but there were others too.


It was kind of like meat, sort of available but often hard to find and often saved for special occasions. It wasn't a standard daily drink for many/most people.