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delphiandomine   
28 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Sorry, Delph, crushing the Church was impossible at the time. :):):) Stalinist communists tried it in 1940s/50s but failed and gave up.

Did they really try that hard, though? I know there was the usual Stalinist tactics towards the Church, but never a massive repression with a total ban on attending Church?

No, it would mean execution of millions who were ready to die for their beliefs.

Do you think that millions really would have died for the Church? It doesn't seem likely to me - people were already destroyed by the years of war - if the Church being outlawed meant a return to relative normality, would many people really have tried to fight?

Yes. I have never been able to understand people who hate others and never forgive.

Likewise. It must be such a burden to carry around day after day.

Personally, I'm only sorry that Jaruzelski (and others) were never brought up in front of a South African style Truth and Reconciliation process.
delphiandomine   
27 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

And the fact that Church was so strong in his times means nothing - it wasn`t Jaruzelski`s merit but Polish peoples` power and ability to resist.

To be fair, they could have crushed the Church if they wanted - but it would have meant keeping Poles in a genuine police state and tied up considerable Soviet resources in doing so. It made far more sense to leave the Church be.

But hitting a man with a stone in the face was a barbaric, un-Christian revenge. After so many years the hatred didn`t subside.....???

It is absolute nonsense. Holding such hatred in your heart can only bring you down too.
delphiandomine   
27 Aug 2013
History / Film "Wałęsa" - historical reality vs myth - controvercies [110]

The intriguing thing to me is how he behaved at the time - like you say, he cut people out and ruled Solidarity as if he was the king of his own empire. I wonder if they'll show this?

(as a footnote, I've been watching coverage of the 1990 Presidential election - Walesa absolutely destroyed Mazowiecki in terms of presence and debate)
delphiandomine   
24 Aug 2013
History / Film "Wałęsa" - historical reality vs myth - controvercies [110]

Indeed, from all I've read about the situation, it was a very deliberate move - not least because it provoked the so-called "Rural Solidarity" who didn't have much in common with Walesa. As I recall, their power base was in that part of Poland - the crude Communist propaganda of Walesa being locked up in what was considered to be the luxury Arlamow would have driven them crazy.
delphiandomine   
24 Aug 2013
History / Film "Wałęsa" - historical reality vs myth - controvercies [110]

He proudly stated he had never read a book in his life.

And yet he was able to rouse the masses. Not bad going for an uneducated man, as well as his inhuman ability to bridge the gap between workers and intellectuals.
delphiandomine   
18 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

I see that you're also in need of some Biblical teaching -

Their ilk love to latch on to the forgiveness and mercy bit but conveniently forget that that hinges on CONTRITION AND REPENTANCE.

Wrong, as the Bible says :

"And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins" (Mark 11:25).

"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins" (Matthew 6:14-15).

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" (Luke 6:37-38).

In short, Jesus makes no reference to requiring "CONTRITION AND REPENTANCE". Sorry Polonius, but your Biblical knowledge appears to be comparable to your knowledge of other religious texts - non-existent.
delphiandomine   
17 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

That is a great paradox indeed, worth a seperate thread.

I'll start one when I find my book - amazon.com/Polish-Revolution-Solidarity-Third/dp/0300095686

As far as I'm concerned, Solidarity weren't much better than the Communists for seeking a regime in that their own were protected while others were free to do as they wanted. It may be slightly skewed by Solidarity's acceptance that they weren't going to get a regime change, however...
delphiandomine   
15 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

No Polonius, what the enlightened ones wanted was a society that offered a fair chance to all - without Communist or Trade Union style nepotism.

A society that rewards mediocre people for having their right membership - be it Party or Trade Union - is not a fair society. At least capitalism did offer those with the brains the chance to succeed.

Only a dreadful society would allow dreadful "professionals" with no qualifications other than loyalty to end up living in large houses.
delphiandomine   
15 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

As you can see Solidarity movement was against commercialization and much more anti-market than so-called communists.

Solidarność was hilariously anti-market (and still is) - when you read the 21 demands, it becomes very obvious that they were after a "TKM" style society rather than a fair and free society.
delphiandomine   
15 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

The established practice in European Communist countries was for the existence of a dual economy - Poles were no strangers to consumer markets and prices.
delphiandomine   
15 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

Eastern Europe was untouched by Western capitalism, with no consumer market to speak of.

That's not true, and could only be written by someone with little knowledge of how pre-1989 economics worked in Communist countries in Europe.

Confident in the knowledge that the worse things got, the more likely the new government would be to accept a total conversion to unfettered capitalism, the IMF let the country fall deeper and deeper into debt and inflation.

Nice conspiracy theory, but the reality was that Poland was in the mess of her own making. It was no secret that the West was quite happy to watch "Communist' countries bankrupt themselves, for it would provoke regime change far more effectively than a war.

For the movement's militant rank and file, this was the chance to test their
economic program: if the state-run factories were converted to workers' cooperatives, there was a chance they could become economically viable again - worker management could be more efficient, especially without the added expense of party bureaucrats.

I think the industries in which Solidarność still have a stranglehold show that it could never work. The "chance" required massive amounts of money to bring them to any sort of reasonable standard - money that the country just didn't have. It's worth pointing out that many of the Solidarność strongholds were doomed to failure from the beginning for various reasons - letting trade unions run them just ended in disaster, as we already saw with the shipyards.
delphiandomine   
10 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

I think i know better what Christianity is then some atheist and by the Christianity's ideolorgy a heavy sinner.

Then you should also know to preach forgiveness rather than revenge.
delphiandomine   
10 Aug 2013
History / Jaruzelski vs Pinochet [120]

I dont see how it made Poland a better place, a commie's blabber.

Poland is certainly a better place without women having to kiss the hand of someone who was lucky enough to be born to the right parents.

When will he put to jail ?!

Christianity, goofy, Christianity.
delphiandomine   
9 Aug 2013
Work / Working in Poland without speaking Polish [75]

But, we were still recruited by a top American company and beleive me, we do earn a decent salary!

From what you've been saying on here, you're earning a pretty crap salary by Polish standards.
delphiandomine   
31 Jul 2013
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

I am not at all sure they don't feel like this now.

Never met one German yet that wanted to do such a thing to Poland.

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the German sense of shame over WW2 before making such statements.
delphiandomine   
28 Jul 2013
Study / Poland-Germany university transfer? [16]

Since the Republic of Poland is a member of the EU, it shares the common EU educational system.

Yes, but like most of the EU, these things are only superficially the same.

That means that university transfers between European countries are possible, right?

In theory. The reality is different, due to courses being designed in different ways.

I technically finish the German university, so I should end up having the German diploma

It won't work like that. Many universities have limits on the amount of ECTS points that you can transfer, and you can also expect them to check in detail as to whether the modules in Poland really matched the German one. I absolutely guarantee that you won't get everything transferred.

In short, your idea is nice, but Europe simply isn't integrated at that sort of level to allow that kind of transfer.
delphiandomine   
24 Jul 2013
Food / Hopless beer in Poland? [30]

Small market Polish breweries aren't much worse than Czech ones - but don't forget, Poland is far better than the Czechs when it comes to spirits.
delphiandomine   
23 Jul 2013
Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]

Too much individualism

Yes Polonius, we know that you prefer democratic centralism systems.

To be able to interact peacefully and work together effectively a balanced consensus is needed.

So why are you posting nothing but partisan nonsense on here every single day?
delphiandomine   
22 Jul 2013
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

land was seized and redistributed to Polish military veterans, in hopes of reigning in the east.

I believe one of the major problems with this was that the veterans preferred to stay in the developed central/Western lands, acting as absentee landlords and upsetting both Ukrainian and Polish peasants alike.
delphiandomine   
15 Jul 2013
Law / Why is Poland importing so much coal? [76]

The way this country is run, we would have been importing sand If we had been Egypt.

Did the Dear Leader tell you to say that?

It's pretty obvious why Poland is importing more and more.
delphiandomine   
14 Jul 2013
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

Impossible!! I cannot believe it.

There's a lot of them around - off the top of my head in Bieszczady, there's one in Cisna that is more or less abandoned. Many of the "anti-fascist" memorials from the PRL era aren't maintained too round here - I'll take some pictures for you :)

Yes, it is true, but that is our tradition and you cannot help it. At least for a generation or two. Besides, why should Poles be worse than Jews in commemorating their victims???

Don't tell me you see it as some sort of competition? :P

No, the thing I object to is the memorials everywhere for bad things that happened to Poles, but very little recognition of bad things that Poles did to others. Hence why -

Only Polish ones.

Is sad for me - I'd like to see monuments remembering all those innocent killed in Wołyń, not just Poles. No matter how you put it, that place was a disaster.

But inhabitants of Eastern lands and their ancestors refuse to reconcile:

Sad. There's still so much bitterness on the part of ordinary people over the whole thing.

Isn't there anything positive that would be worth erecting a monument for?

Of course, but it doesn't appeal to those interested in doom and gloom. It confuses me why there isn't some sort of monument to the 4th June 1989, or why there aren't streets named after that day.
delphiandomine   
13 Jul 2013
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

The abandoned (pulled down) monuments erected in communist times honoured such butchers as Feliks Dzierźyński or Vladimir Lenin. Yes, they were abandoned, as you say:

Oh no, it's not those I'm talking about - those were rightfully pulled down as soon as it was possible. It's more the ones from the PRL era that were dedicated to victims of Fascism, or to others.

Hmm, because once Poles saw how Germans tried to eradicate the Polish culture by blowing up Polish monuments? The inscription on Krakow monument reads: Nations which lose memory die out.

It is true, but you must admit, all these monuments to Polish suffering also help to reinforce the general "Christ of Nations" complex that some people have.

Do you know if these monuments are dedicated to all victims in Wolyn, or just Polish ones?
delphiandomine   
13 Jul 2013
History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

closer to Chernobyl.

Wolyn extended that far?

hacked to death comes with hate..... and that is why there is a problem now.

Or it comes with a lack of anything else to use.

I've said all along that the Ukrainians were acting out of sheer desperation - if they didn't clear Wolyn, then there was absolutely no chance that they would get their dreamed-of country.