Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


Where else but Eurovision can an accordion and violin drive the audience crazy? Tonight was an even bigger reaction than the semi....

Spain and Moldova seem to have had the biggest audience pops so far....

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


I love lots of Turkish music (though they don't usually seem to send their best to EV... like Spain....). I think Erdogan's Islamist agenda has scuttled participation in recent years, what a miserable buzzkill he is.. (in addition to a terrible economist and evil human being).

I think Ukraine could win the televote but I'm not sure about the jury... they've tried to liven up the juries in some countries but they still seem to be made up largely of fossils....

TBH I preferred Ukraine's entry last year (not so much the video but the live performances were great) but this year's entry puts on a show with lots of Slavic folklore (like the shaggy guys, similar figures are found in old Slavic pagan celebrations, my favorite are from Slovenia....) a win by them would be very credible

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


I really like that song.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

Meanwhile.... what happened to German music?

I used to like a fair amount of German pop (fun stuff the country weirdly got no credit for....) but I lost track a few years ago when the German musical channels disappeared from Polish cable lineups...

Can you name interesting German songs/artists in the last couple of years?

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


That's kind of a tradition.... you should be proud of it.... NIL POINTS!

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Language / Polish from Russian [14]


Well I take it the OP's a Russian native speaker so it won't be hard, but yeah taking a second slavic language on as a foreign language is tough as they mix and interfere with each other in ways that Romance or Germanic languages don't....

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


Morocco even competed once (and I think has an open invitation to return but won't as long as Israel is competing).

IIRC in the event of an Australian win the following competition would take place in the UK...

And lots of European countries sit out Eurovision for shorter or longer periods. Turkey hasn't been in a while and I think Italy didn't compete for a long time....

Language / Polish from Russian [14]


It's not hard if your first language is Russian and Ukrainian would only make it easier.

Some years ago I knew a Russian who arrived in Poland without a word of Polish (had been told it wouldn't be necessary which he quickly realized was wrong) by the third day he had a textbook and within a month was functional for everyday things and within three or so months was pretty fluent.

Outside of Poland it will take longer, of course, but you should be able to read native materials within 6 months or so (if not sooner).

Understanding the language will take longer of coure, though still very doable, especially with internet resources...

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


Didn't make it.... too bad. Neither did Georgia (one of my favorites)..... bunch of generic crap did make it though (Australia and Romania were the worst offenders)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


No.... he rode a pink mechanical bull while dressed like a glitter cowboy... because.... eurovision

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Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


I just saw Achille Lauro and understand everything.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


You don't know what Eurovision is, do you?

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

Ukraine will definitely exist next year.... The phoney and ghey Russian "Federation"?..... that's another story.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

The two have always been inseparable at eurovision (and.... everywhere else).

Who will Serbs give 12 points to? Ukraine?!!!!! an extremely slavic number!!!

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


Not yet... and Ukraine has won twice before so they know what they're doing when it comes to Eurovision.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


Not surprising, it wasn't very good... I like some Albanian music but that... wasn't.... it....

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


First semi was last night, tomorrow is second semi and the grand finale is saturday.


I like a lot of Albanian folk pop, sensual beats (almost a bit like cumbia) whiny clarinets. Fun stuff.

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


This year's UK entry is the best in many, many years... far better than the last UK entry to win (in the 1990s?)

On the other hand I liked the otherwise universally reviled airline number (as a novelty fun thing not a song) so maybe my taste isn't a great reference but the UK is in the top 5 in the betting pools....

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]


It's an expensive show to put on... Germany doesn't want to waste more money (how much did the last German hosted one cost?)

Off-Topic / Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish [586]

With all the serious stuff going on..... did anyone watch Eurovision last night? Not the greatest semi-final but okay.

Hyped Latvia didn't make it through (didn't like it).

I liked Lithuania, Netherlands and Iceland (all singing in their own language rather than euro-crap English).

Favorites Ukraine were.... okay. I liked last year's entry better but they put on a show.

Surprise standout was.... Moldova! The audience went crazy for this whacky folk tune with accordions!

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History / What do Poles owe to Hungarians? [275]


And how is alienating all the countries Hungary borders 'best' for Hungary?

How is alienating all the countries Hungary is in international agreements with (agreements that were freely entered into).... 'best' for Hungary?

Especially since it's doing all that for the sake of a country it has no borders with and which has oppressed and subjugated it in the past?

How does that make any sense?

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


Compare Ukrainian refugees, olverwhelmingly women and children, to the 2015 wave (overwhelmingly fighting age young men who cared so little for their country of origin that they ran rather than fight for it... what would they do for the countries they arrived in?)

History / How much Poles trust to France? [130]


That wasn't even true in the 1980s....

Life / Any good Polish films to watch? [112]


first two yes, third..... no. It's.... okay.... but no more.

Po polsku / Staram się polepszać się po polsku :) [85]


Pani Surmacz z tobą się nie zgadza....

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Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


A fundamental tenent of many modern ideologies is that people, human beings, both individually and collecitvely, are interchangeable widgets and all seemingly significant group differences that can easily be overcome by the proper social policy and if they aren't then the problem is that people have improper ideology.

Like communism and alchemism it has failed, again and again, but true believers refuse to let it go.

Life / Will Poland ever be multicultural like Sweden, Germany or France? [283]


But far less safe than it used to be in the past....

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


Then why are you on Russia's side? Are you a traitor?

History / History of Polish-Russian relations [186]


culture? not so much.... pay special attention to the part about differing ideas of human dignity and agency in Ukraine and Russia....

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1516416890335289345

History / What do Poles owe to Hungarians? [275]


Or now.... at least among those who count.

Was the German economy less, more or equally dependent upon Russian goodwill at the end of her chancellorship? Did she move the economy away from or closer to Russia?

That's all that matters.