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Slavic vs Germanic thinking.... and the philosophical differences



Matowy - | 296    
15 Jun 2010  #61

It was proved that 36 % of mixed Slavic couples have children with uncurable genetic disorders.

That doesn't make sense. It's certainly true that having sex with people of the same genetic background helps to ensure the survival of specialized genetic diseases, and it's also true that people are more attracted by the pheremones of people with a more different genetic background to them (not necessarily a different ethnicity though, or at least this hasn't been explored). 36% is, however, a ridiculously huge number, so there is either something wrong with that study, or it has been communicated incorrectly.


1jola 14 | 1,884    
15 Jun 2010  #62

You haven't seen me with my polished helmet...yet! ;)

Are you coming to the mother of all battles, kitty? This year, there will be over two thousnd knights. 600 year aniversary.
Sasha 2 | 1,083    
15 Jun 2010  #63

Well, yeah...some.

What are you on? :) You truly believe I'm not aware of the problem or what?
Miguel Colombia - | 353    
15 Jun 2010  #64

I know you are. We all are.

It is really a shame.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 7,938    
15 Jun 2010  #65

Are you coming to the mother of all battles, kitty? This year, there will be over two thousnd knights. 600 year aniversary.

Only if I can be a Teuton...:)
1jola 14 | 1,884    
15 Jun 2010  #66

Half of them will be. I have an bus going, so if you want to slum with us in Warsaw, you are welcome, psubracie.
Sasha 2 | 1,083    
15 Jun 2010  #67

It is really a shame.

Many things is a shame in this world. :) Pointing out others problems is a shame too.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,394    
16 Jun 2010  #68

I compare just a few writers/philosophers from both tribes...If you can suggest other writers, please do, because I may be extreme here: Germany: Nietzche, Hitler, Heidegger...Slavs: Solzhenytsin, Dostoyesky, Tolstoy...Difference,as I see, is the God-less vs. God-fearing...As I say, I may oversimplify, so recommend other examples.
OP southern 76 | 7,116    
16 Jun 2010  #69

Hitler

I recently read in "Hitler's table talking" some very interesting remarks of Hitler on Poles,Czechs and Russians.He really knew how to manipulate the Poles and the Czechs.He also knew the Croats and the Hungarians very well.

Merged:Slavic soul vs germanic soul:What do you prefer?

Usually slavic is more convenient.
Natasa 1 | 590    
6 Mar 2011  #70

Slavic soul or German spirit maybe?

They don't like the dusha concept, Geist is more adequate.
Slovenska dusha and
Deutsche Geist ( deutsche Seele sounds like a perversion for them probably too)
Same with the Slavic spirit, I heard for that expression but I don't know the content of it. Does it have any meaning my Slavs?

Well, I like to swim and drown in the Slavic soul, warm and cosy place, but I also like to take/give orders from the German Geist (that is in the domain of sexual fantasies of course :))

I like that German emphasis on the will , Slavic concept of will is quite empty.
I usually hear it within some kind of negation:
" Nemam volje"- I don't have the will (willingness)
" Izgubio sam volju" - I lost the will (like car keys, irrelevant object)
.....

I think that insisting on the will is making them more resistant to problems Slavs usually solve using alcohol.
Germans develop that way high frustration tolerance, while Slavs in the meantime develop cirrhosis.

So, some combo is the best.

If we don't refine or redefine the starting question then you know my answer.
Daisy 4 | 1,237    
6 Mar 2011  #71

Slavic soul or German spirit maybe?

He said Germanic, not German, there is a subtle difference. Germans are Germanic, but most Germanics are not German
OP southern 76 | 7,116    
6 Mar 2011  #72

I attribute instability of slavic women to their slavic soul.(only czech are reasonable due probably to germanic mix).However a man has difficulty coping with the situation without the influence of alcohol.

General passivity as a feature is what you describe as lack of expressed will?Or the negation imperative?Nechatsiu.Nechci.
Natasa 1 | 590    
6 Mar 2011  #73

I attribute instability of slavic women to their slavic soul.

I searched for the data that could indicate that there is some instability. I tried with the incidence of big psychiatric illnesses, specifically bipolar disorder and major depression. General stats show that prevalence of big ones is similar everywhere. Depression seems to be more the illness of the West (but there we have problem differentiating reactive from endogenous depression, their codes are the same, I think that that difference is caused by environmental factors and diagnostic practice).

Bipolar is slightly more often seen in Slavic world, which suggests that moodiness might have innate nature.
This is a very shaky and problematic hypothesis and has idiosyncratic purpose, I had to explain that to myself somehow.

But I also think it's just a problem of having that stupid soul I would gladly sell /give away if there would be some devil to buy it :))

General passivity as a feature is what you describe as lack of expressed will?Or the negation imperative?Nechatsiu.Nechci.

I think that problem with the will is both nurture and nature problem.
From what I have seen I can conclude that many the members of Slavic nations don't impose strict rules or harsh discipline on their kids like their counterparts.

Our kids behave like the rulers of the world.
I was watching the reaction of one Danish couple on the beach while they were observing ordinary Serbian kid routinely ruining his toy (some water gun).

The kid was yelling, singing while splashing the water surface with the toy until it fall completely apart. The couple was annoyed until that moment, noise he was producing was quite unpleasant. But when the mother of the kid started to comfort the boy who was screaming because the toy is finally broken, trying to calm him down employing half of the beach to search for the parts of the toy in the water he just destroyed , the faces of that Danish couple changed to shock.

In Germanic ! countries I didn't hear many sounds produced by kids.

I think that it could be the case with all Slavs, but for Serbs I heard that they have this reversed type of authoritarianism. While authoritarian Westerner obeys the rules even when they are ridiculous (or harmful) and nobody can see him braking it, Serbian authoritarian type of personality will brake the rule just to brake it.

What I meant to depict with those examples is that will as a word appears mostly in sentences that show lack of it.

I will end this novel disagreeing with everything written above.
NEĆU!
OP southern 76 | 7,116    
6 Mar 2011  #74

I can conclude that many the members of Slavic nations don't impose strict rules or harsh discipline on their kids like their counterparts.

I actually believe that.For example Radzinsky says he encountered first time corporal punishment in school when he moved to Germany in 1937.He was never beaten by teacher in polish school.
Daisy 4 | 1,237    
6 Mar 2011  #75

General passivity as a feature is what you describe as lack of expressed will

It's the quiet ones you have to watch ;)

I was watching the reaction of one Danish couple on the beach while they were observing ordinary Serbian kid routinely ruining his toy

You get spoilt brats in all countries. If the mother had asked for my help, my answer would be "he broke it, he can look for it, maybe he won't break his toys next time" to quote my father "the mother spoils them, then every other mother's child has to suffer them"
OP southern 76 | 7,116    
6 Mar 2011  #76

In Germanic ! countries I didn't hear many sounds produced by kids.

Here we see an example of german education.

youtube.com/watch?v=lKpOWj8LkaQ
sascha 1 | 835    
6 Mar 2011  #77

He said Germanic, not German, there is a subtle difference. Germans are Germanic, but most Germanics are not German

Don't agree. ;)

I attribute instability of slavic women to their slavic soul

Stable in instability but either way you turn it...very VERY sexy...many of them :)

Here we see an example of german education.

That's an everyday scene in Germany-documentary like;)

As its said in Germany, the only bothering sounds are crying kids and barking dogs. ;)
guesswho 4 | 1,295    
6 Mar 2011  #78

Slavic soul vs Germanic soul:What do you prefer?

According to some posters on PF it's all the same so why would you prefer any of them? (lol)
sascha 1 | 835    
6 Mar 2011  #79

Slavic soul vs germanic soul

Germanics DO have souls? Do I miss sth? I thought that Germanics have Geist/spirit but soul? Don't think so. Here once again the all time special of Germanic souls:

Soulike ;)

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
Daisy 4 | 1,237    
6 Mar 2011  #80

Don't agree. ;)

What would you know, everyone knows you're a Serb
sascha 1 | 835    
6 Mar 2011  #81

everyone knows you're a Serb

a) Who is everyone?
b) Interesting that you are falling for the 'propaganda' a la fascho BB.

At the end I really don't care what bs you folks write about that.

What would you know

More than you think my dear.
Thinking of me as a Serbs makes me actually an expert on this topic.

You just came by for personal insults. Poor dear.

German 'soul': reserved
Slavic soul: impulsive
Daisy 4 | 1,237    
6 Mar 2011  #82

You just came by for personal insults. Poor dear.

At the end I really don't care what bs you folks write about that.

likewise
PlasticPole 7 | 2,669    
6 Mar 2011  #83

Usually slavic is more convenient.

Slavs have the soul while Germans have the zeitgeist.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 7,938    
6 Mar 2011  #84

What would you know, everyone knows you're a Serb

Yeah...he is slipping more and more lately! What a joke! :):):)

Slavs have the soul while Germans have the zeitgeist.

Do you know what Zeitgeist actually means?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist

Well...at least Germanics have brains! :)
Softsong 5 | 495    
6 Mar 2011  #85

German 'soul': reservedSlavic soul: impulsive

So what happens when someone is half German and half Polish? ;-)
PlasticPole 7 | 2,669    
6 Mar 2011  #86

Well...at least Germanics have brains! :)

...and gemutlichkeit. Don't forget that!
George8600 10 | 641    
6 Mar 2011  #87

Yeah...he is slipping more and more lately! What a joke! :):):)

he

She's a guy?!

'propaganda' a la fascho BB

I've already reserved my copy of that book; are you sure it's being written by a German and not an Italian ;-)
PlasticPole 7 | 2,669    
6 Mar 2011  #88

So what happens when someone is half German and half Polish? ;-)

Cheerful, soulful and smart? Even though Poles are some of the most intelligent people on earth.
Softsong 5 | 495    
6 Mar 2011  #89

Cheerful, soulful and smart?

I was about to make a very bad joke about myself, "No wonder I am always in such conflict when it comes to decisions." But, I like your analysis much better! :-)
George8600 10 | 641    
6 Mar 2011  #90

So what happens when someone is half German and half Polish? ;-)

They end up fat and bald like my ex-neighbor.




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