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Thinking about moving to Australia


Franz_1 2 | 5
11 Mar 2009 #1
Hello.
I think about moving to Australia for life.
Can you tell me how life looks there.
I speak Polish, so we can speak both languages.
Bzibzioh
11 Mar 2009 #2
It's very expensive country. Flat. Windy. Boring nature (in comparison to Poland). Would not live there for any reason (I had a chance) Sorry.
davidpeake 14 | 451
11 Mar 2009 #3
Hi Franz, What city have you thought about.
OP Franz_1 2 | 5
11 Mar 2009 #4
Everybody got right for their own opinion.
Thank you about your one.
I think about moving out from Poland for last 5-7 years. The only problem for me is visa at this moment, but I work on it. Will see how will be.

You say that Australia is very expensive country. So, can you tell what you mean?
How much do I have to spend on food every week. How much can I earn each week in normal job. How much will I pay for house?

To make my decision I need to know everything about it.
Second place where I can go is Canada. We got 21st century. The world is open and I want to use it. I don't want to spend all my life in one country.

Places I think about are Sydney, Perth or Alice Springs. I'm not sure.

Tak to wyglada.
mateinone 5 | 58
15 Mar 2009 #5
RE: "It's very expensive country. Flat. Windy. Boring nature (in comparison to Poland). Would not live there for any reason (I had a chance) Sorry"

Hmm that is a strange reply.
Australia is not at all expensive, in comparison to most western countries it is cheap. For example it is less expensive in Australia than Most mainland European cities, it is cheaper than the US and it is cheaper than Scandinavia and the UK..

You are right it is flat and if you wanted to come to Australia for mountains you would be disappointed. It is not an overly windy country though.. I am not sure where you ended up here or what was going on when you were in Australia, but that is wrong.

In what way is the "nature boring" Do you mean the landscape etc? That again is strange as Australia has more native species that most other countries due to it being such a large island. You can also go from countryside to rain forest to surf beaches in the space of 45 minutes.

Prefer a desert? Yeah they have those as well.

In regards to these questions from the original poster.

How much do I have to spend on food every week?
Do you want to live in the city and if so the biggest city or are you happy to be out of the city?

In Melbourne my last house was $260 for a 3 bedroom, two-story townhouse. The average wage in Australia would be somewhere around the 50,000-60,000 mark for an office worker. Specialists in accounting/IT etc would be looking at between 80-150k. A labourer that is unskilled would earn maybe 40-45k per year on average.

In the area I am now living houses rent from around 170-300 depending on the house you are after. A unit would be around 100-120 per week.

Food. It might be easier to list the price of a few things. It assumes the person is shopping smart, not buying everything in a 24-hour convenience store.

2lt Milk 3.20
24 slice cheese 4.50
bread 2.00
Margarine - 1.50
600ml coca-cola 3.00
ham - 10-12 per kilo
eggs - $3 per dozen
cigarettes are a lot dearer (say $10 for 20) as they have heavy taxes imposed
Fuel is about 1.15 per litre at the moment

Eating Out - Breakfast/Lunch Cafe
Cafe latte - 3.00
Toasted cheese/ham sandwich $5-6
eggs/toast/coffee $10
Fruit Salad - $5-7
Lasagne & Salad - $10

Eating Out - Dinner
Pasta - $13
Rice Dishes (ie Risotto) - $13
Pizza - $13 for largest size
Fish/Steak (at medium restarant) - $25-30
Chicken Parmigiana - $15-17

Obviously that is not comprehensive but it gives you an idea of the approximates.

How much can I earn each week in normal job. How much will I pay for house?
To make my decision I need to know everything about it.
Second place where I can go is Canada. We got 21st century. The world is open and I want to use it. I don't want to spend all my life in one country.

Places I think about are Sydney, Perth or Alice Springs. I'm not sure.

Tak to wyglada.
OP Franz_1 2 | 5
15 Mar 2009 #6
Thank you for answer.
Now I will contact with companies in Australia to find a job. I think my skill level is very high in security sector and I want to to use it.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
15 Mar 2009 #7
Do you still need a criminal record to get into Australia? ;)

Franz_1, go over and have some fun.
I wish you all the best :)
OP Franz_1 2 | 5
15 Mar 2009 #8
Even if I need it will be no problem. in security industry I was chcked every six months and I am sure that my criminal record is "clean".

I'm sure I will have a lot of fun.
Will see.
If you all have any practical advices please write it here and I will be thankful for all good infos for me.
mateinone 5 | 58
15 Mar 2009 #9
I think you will find that Sean was being facetious. Australia used to be a penal colony.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
15 Mar 2009 #10
I'm sure I will have a lot of fun.

I am sure too, it is supposed to be a wonderful place and lots of sun.

I think you will find that Sean was being facetious.

Yes, I have a terrible sense of humour.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
24 Jan 2010 #11
australia long hot summers no snow during winter lately is become racist too many immigrants from third world countrys

and racist abos

please, think about what you said. you are as bad as those you condemn.
jamesams1357 - | 35
25 Feb 2010 #12
the aborginals people have mark polish people its hard to explain why and its long story thats why poland is become more violent country its all started because of a aboriginal woman and its all linked in there hip hop culture it travel from australia to united states and then to poland and there is a war going on between polish people and abos polish ziomek keep your head up brother **** these noongar nigers
dnz 17 | 710
25 Feb 2010 #13
Jesus Christ you are ****i ng thick!

What a typical moronic polish view on something. Poland is violent because of the idiots that live here. Aboriginal people also have nothing to do with black music, rap culture etc now shut the **** up you failed abortion.

Australia looks to be an amazing place, hence why i'm leaving to go there in a few weeks, They have excellent ski resorts between july and October and as everyone knows great beaches.

The countryside looks much more diverse than the baron, flat peasant infested polish countryside where they still farm by hand and eat their young and you can go from surfing in the sea to skiing in the mountains within a matter of hours.

That guide of the cost of living was excellent, thanks for that :) Rent in sydney looks to be quite expensive though 400 - 500 pw for anything decent.

The main thing that worries me is all the deadly animals and insects there but I would much rather die being eaten by a great white shark surfing in Aus than by getting hit my some moron here in Poland who thinks is Daewoo/Skoda can break the land speed record in the moddle of the city.
King Sobieski 2 | 716
26 Feb 2010 #14
jamesams1357

you're load that should have been swallowed.

The main thing that worries me is all the deadly animals and insects there

you're more likely to be hit by a hoon in a ford/holden (gmh) here than be eaten by sharks.

are you going to reside in sydney for the longer term?

just for your info as well, generally the smaller a spider is the more potent it is. a small white tail spider will do more damage (not kill you) than a huntsman the size of your hand.
bolek 6 | 330
26 Feb 2010 #15
I suppose troll appear in various forms, Any person who knocks Australia is either hard to please or hasn't been there, Melbourne is No 3 on the list of the most livable cities in the world (where did Warsaw come in as?) Warm weather, fine food and a great way of life with plenty to do, it must beat being indoors for 6 months of the year.

Talk of snakes and spiders etc was a ploy used by the communists to scare people to moving elsewhere. Hoon drivers are everywhere including Poland.
King Sobieski 2 | 716
26 Feb 2010 #16
do you live in melbourne bolek?

this troll lives in the usa and seems like his education is not up too par.

when i was in the uk, all i was asked about were bugs, spiders and snakes. people are fascinated with it.
dnz 17 | 710
26 Feb 2010 #17
you're more likely to be hit by a hoon in a ford/holden (gmh) here than be eaten by sharks.

I'm planning on staying there for good, The standard of living looks to be far better than in any european country and I don't think I could ever live in the UK again its just a mess. I've always dreamt of emigrating to australia so looks like my dream has come true. I can't wait its a matter of weeks now before I leave :)

when i was in the uk, all i was asked about were bugs, spiders and snakes. people are fascinated with it.

Its all we really hear about in the UK, Maybe its government propaganda to try and keep the entire working population from leaving to go and live there.

I was really paranoid about the spiders but everyone i've spoken to assures me that they are fairly rare especially if living in a modern apartment in the city.

Anyway roll on April I really can't wait for the good food, good way of life and some great skiing this summer.
bolek 6 | 330
26 Feb 2010 #18
do you live in melbourne bolek?

yes, can honestly say I've never been worried about spiders and snakes, only time I've seen a snake was at the zoo, lets be honest about it Melbourne is the sports capital of the

world ie, cricket, tennis, golf, motor car and motorcycle racing, surfing etc, Australia is a big big country, Best place for wine lovers.
Like I say people who haven't been to this great land, just don't know.
The thing about living in Europe is that your living in a fridge for 6 months of the year.
dnz 17 | 710
26 Feb 2010 #19
Just out of interest how cold is it likely to get in Sydney during the winter months and also how early does it get dark, I'm sort of coming to terms with the fact that this year I will have endured the horrific polish winter and then will have the Aus winter and I despise dark nights, Small price to pay I suppose.
King Sobieski 2 | 716
27 Feb 2010 #20
yes, can honestly say I've never been worried about spiders and snakes, only time I've seen a snake was at the zoo, lets be honest about it Melbourne is the sports capital of the

whereabouts bolek?

you need to get out to the burbs with a creek running through it...i can remember one of the teachers smashing a tiger snake with a baseball bat when it entered the school grounds. and i have seen a few others growing up. but dnz, that is over a span of 36 years.

lets be honest about it Melbourne is the sports capital of the
world ie, cricket, tennis, golf, motor car and motorcycle racing, surfing etc,

you forgot the best sport in the world:

Just out of interest how cold is it likely to get in Sydney during the winter months and also how early does it get dark,

i dont know about sydney, but melbourne ranges between 8-13 degrees during winter and it usually gets dark say around 5pm. no where near the 4pm dark i experienced in scotland.
bolek 6 | 330
27 Feb 2010 #21
I think a lot of people have been brainwashed by the song "There was red back on the toilet seat" etc by Slim Dusty.. lets face it how many people have been killed by spider or snake bites??

If you live in the mountain areas it can get in the minus degrees, Its nothing like Poland, I've never worn a overcoat or gloves.
King Sobieski 2 | 716
3 Mar 2010 #22
ets face it how many people have been killed by spider or snake bites??

maybe a few...but a lot of vaccines these days.

whereabouts in melbourne are you? dandenong ranges?

i wear a warm jacket and gloves during winter at night...but im soft.
bolek 6 | 330
3 Mar 2010 #23
maybe a few...but a lot of vaccines these days.

when was the last time you come across a deadly spider? Can I suggest Never.

i wear a warm jacket and gloves during winter at night...but im soft.

Central Melbourne, Winter spans about 4 months, you might have a chilly morning but barley charlie King Sobieski are you a man or a mouse!!.. lol.. In actual fact I don't own a overcoat, gloves or winter boots, We might have a cold spell of zero temperature, but nothing like the minus 20 plus in Poland. I agree if you live in the mountain country it can get pretty cold, it brings me to the point that you could in one day spend time swimming in the beach and the rest of the time skiing in the snow.
krazy krawiec 4 | 27
3 Mar 2010 #24
Been to Australia!! Love it! Depends where you want to live!

I'm back in the UK now... :(

Things are more expensive in central Australia because transport takes days but salaries reflect the difference.

The southern climate is nice, warm winters and boiling hot summers! You also get spring and autumn but in the northern territory you only get 2 seasons and its either pouring with rain or hot and muggy!

There is quite a big Polish community in Sydney...

Hope you like it there! :)
King Sobieski 2 | 716
4 Mar 2010 #25
when was the last time you come across a deadly spider? Can I suggest Never.

i have come across redbacks, way back when i was young and told to get out of the house.

i do come across white tail spiders who, whilst not fatal, can leave quite a mark where they bite you and you could end up in hospital.

funny, we were just discussing this:
news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/child-airlifted-after-snake-bite-20100304-pkhg.html

Central Melbourne

i grew up and live in the inner north.

have you been here your whole life?

i am never uncomfortable in the melbourne cold, but i am an office jockey and choose to wear a an overcoat type thing instead of a suit jacket.
bolek 6 | 330
11 Mar 2010 #26
have you been here your whole life?

yes, although I know Poland like the back of my hand, I hope you weren't flooded out in the last few days or you computor wasn't infected if you were with bigpond, I suppose with these dramas it makes life more interesting. I wonder if you agree with most poles living in this great land, that it is a land of milk and honey, or for people a bit younger a land of wine, women and song or for the more cultured, a land of fine food, good wine and a great place to live. hmmm Poland not is bad also except for the cold weather.
AUSP 1 | 7
11 Mar 2010 #27
Hi,

I live in Brisbane Queensland and I am Polish, and compared to other cities that I have visited here in Australia and overseas I think it is great place to live. . Sure like other cities there are problems, but from where I have been in Asia (like Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Kuala Lumpar), the US, and even in Europe i think Brisbane is not a bad place to live in comparison. Due to my work I have had the fortunate opportunities to travel these countries and witness first hand what they are like to live in, and make comparisons. The beaches & weather here in Queensland are good, the people are friendly and the beer is not bad. There is quite a large number of Polish people here in Brisbane (both young and old), where there is church (Our Lady of the Victories Bowen Hills) and Polish clubs (e.g. polonia.org.au in Milton) built by the Polish community here. Likewise in the other state capital cities of Australia. Some Polish people that I know here, say they wouldn't leave Australia for quits. Each to their own.

Also I agree with people like Bolek, unless you have been here and seen it yourself then keep quiet as you don't know what the f&^^*k you're talking about.

Grzegorz
King Sobieski 2 | 716
11 Mar 2010 #28
I hope you weren't flooded out in the last few days

i was at my parents in the eltham area. only had dark clouds and some drizzle and missed the hail.

what about you?

I wonder if you agree with most poles living in this great land

im first generation, my parents arrived in australia as infants.

but i agree with all of the above.
bolek 6 | 330
15 Mar 2010 #29
what about you?

Sorry for the delay, missed out by a whiska, Its amazed me how trustworthy insurance companies are, they took claims over the phone and told customers to get the damage fixed and send them the bill, couldn't imagine that happening in Poland.

Appropriate comment to make re somebody coming to Australia, I was watching the 7.30 report on the ABC and they had a segment of the oil find near Perth, they say the new resources boom with create 400,000 new jobs and it is predicted that they will be short 150,000 workers. This will bring in 60 billion dollars per year!

This brings me to ask a question as to why more Poles are not coming here to enjoy the good life, the resources here will ensure this great country will be rich for a long long time, It is also predicted that the Aus dollar will equal that of the US dollar mid year.

Why would somebody bother going to GB or Ireland? Lets face it the weather here is such that there are more perfect days than good days.
Midex
9 May 2010 #30
the two seaons in the north are called the Dry and the Wet. The Dry season is stunning and its a perfect day everyday. The Wet season is the hot and muggy season with rain in the afternoons and it sucks. My ideal life would be to have two houses. A house up north for March-September and another down south for the rest.

THe spiders and snakes are nothing to worry about. They are very interesting. You just need to know the rules and precautions about them, such as always shake out your shoes before you put them on, and when walking through long grass you need to stomp so that the snakes can hear you coming and they run away. None of the animals are preditors of humans - you onyl get biten or stung if you accidently step on them.

Up north there are more tropical diseases and more deadly spiders and snakes. Its perfect life style down in Sydeny. Melbourne is a little bit cold and rainy. Sydney is expensive though.

Australia has every environment you could ever want to live in. It has every kind of climate. It is a massive continent.

I would not recommend Brisbane. The people who live there are bloody stupid morons. When I did muy round AUstralia trip for two years in a Kombi I actually skipped Brisbane because they are such a pack of morons. Up WHitsundays and Cairns is great areas but the summer is hot and muggy and it really gets under your skin after a while.

NSW-Sydney is the best area to establish. You have skiing and surf and the winter is not so cold and the people are educated.

Up north there are alot of Abos and they are a pain in the ass always moaning about us stealing their land and crap and always drunk and they are violent drunks. ]

If you dont like Abos then go for Melbourne as hardly any Abos like the cold and we killed them all off years ago.

Tasmania is stunning virgin forests but it rains 300 days per year.

Perth is too remote. If you want to visit other places its a long trip and petrol is expensive. I lived in Perth for 6 months and I tell you it sucks. And also there are too many Abos there.

I was born and raised in Melbourne but I tell ya Sydeny-NSW is the best place.

Adelaide is too small a city. Sydeny is central to the best of AUstralia. It has Quennsland in the north for vactions and it has Melbourne in the south.


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