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What do Poles think about Turks?


purplewolf 2 | 46
13 Mar 2010 #571
i've got family in germany and plenty of friends there.. i heard lots of bad things about you: religious fanaticism, social-welfare parasiting, problems with assimilation.. Poles don't have precised opinions about Turks, i suppose... maybe except from historical associations...
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
13 Mar 2010 #572
We Turks know that Armenian genocit claims are a great lie.

WTF??????

The term genocide was coined by a human rights lawyer called Raphael Lemkin in 1948.He used three examples examples when he campaigned for the word genocide to be recognized as a crime in legal terms, The Simele Massacre, the Holocaust and the Armenian genocide.
enkidu 7 | 623
13 Mar 2010 #573
All I know about the Turkey and the Turkish people is that in times where the Poland get assaulted and erased from the map of the world - basically in these sad one hundred and twenty three years when the Poland was virtually an non-existent country (it existed only in our hearts and nowhere else) - the Turkish Sultan was the only ruler in the world who asked this question on the annual ambassador's assembly:

"Where is the ambassador of the brave Poland? How that is happen he is not here?".
And he embarrass all the kings and prime ministers and presidents that come from the countries from all over the world with this question. For 123 years. Every year.

And that is ALL I need to know about Turkey.

Dammit - our countries were never friends. Actually we did fought a war against each other for more-or-less 500 years. But we learned to respect each other in process.

That is what I want to remember.
pgtx 30 | 3,156
13 Mar 2010 #574
Turks I know, are great friends, you enjoy party time with them, but how they treat a woman pretty much meets the stereotype...
banderias - | 16
13 Mar 2010 #575
other muslim countries are not very respected either.. and they been at war
since war became a word.. centuries..

Least the turks helped Poland when help was needed..

thank you pat! everytime...

polish people are the most respectful people of whole europe, they re not imperialist, they never attached to other nations sth.

and they respected other beliefs also, tataric muslims and catolic polish people are always lived in peace in beatiful country, but when you looked the other countries, the spain kicked jews, in germany catolics and protestans killed each them centruies, when you look from this side, you can see a highly culture..

you just defended your motherland...

in any war... (1st, 2nd world war)

i am respecting and supporting this...

poles doesnt have any fingerprint in africa or south america, or middle asia...

and, --i am speaking on myself -- i am always near that your beatiful country, your kind people..

***GÜZEL LEHİSTAN ŞANLI TARİHİNİN HER DÖNEMİNDE BAĞIMSIZDIR, BAĞIMSIZ KALACAKTIR***
RonWest 3 | 120
14 Mar 2010 #576
Most Poles I talk to do not care for Turks and find them generally to be rude and obnoxious. This is just what I hear from most, but not all Polish people in my travels to Poland. Speaking with a University History Professor in Krakow this past summer the subject came up in relation to a conversation about Poland's Armenians who have been in Poland since 1300's.

I was told that Ignacy Lukasiewicz was a Polish Armenian who developed the oil business in Poland in the 1800's and invented the kerosene lamp. The Polish Professor was a fascinating person to talk with and we have mutual friends in Krakow so hopefully I will have the opportunity to speak with him again in the future. He said that a historical fact is that among the many reasons for deporting Armenians during World War I was that the Turks were very Jealous of the Armenians because the Armenians were very industrious, had culture, successful businesses, etc. Kind of like the Jewish in Eastern Europe before WWII.

The Turks and Kurds displaced millions Armenians from 1915-1923 and killed or marched to their death 1.5 million Armenians. A good majority of present day Turkey is Ancient Armenia. So basically Armenians were driven from their land and this is the reason Turks vehemently deny the Genocide because they are worried about ancestors demanding reparations. Turks are very good at re-writing history from what I have been told and from what I have researched on the subject.

Most of the intelligent people in Poland that I have talked with despise them and have had bad experiences with them especially many of those who have lived and worked in Germany and had the opportunity to interact with Turkish people in that country.

I will not repeat here the stories I have been told about those experiences.
rock - | 460
14 Mar 2010 #577
I was told that Ignacy Lukasiewicz was a Polish Armenian who developed the oil business in Poland in the 1800's and invented the kerosene lamp

Did you believe everything he told you without any hesitation ?

Did you ask him if he got any document proving genocide ?

Did you talk any Turk about what happened in 1915 ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Mar 2010 #578
Better than what many Brits think of them. 'I'd rather be a Paki than a Turk' was pretty offensive back in the 1990's. It stemmed from the Leeds-Galatasaray tussle. Silly buggers!
wildrover 98 | 4,451
14 Mar 2010 #579
'I'd rather be a Paki than a Turk'

I would rather be a sparrow than a snail...
RonWest 3 | 120
15 Mar 2010 #580
Did you believe everything he told you without any hesitation ?

Turks are very good at re-writing history from what I have been told and from what I have researched on the subject.

Hellooooo????? What part of "from what I have researched on the subject" did you not understand?

Did you ask him if he got any document proving genocide ?

Yes, and he showed it to me.

Did you talk any Turk about what happened in 1915 ?

Yes, especially a very good friend of mines 106 year old Turkish Grandmother, that's right 106. She lived in Smyrna (now Izmir) in 1915 and remembers Turks killing Greeks and Armenians. She is Turkish and admits the whole thing. She is a wonderful person and believe it or not, she lives alone in her apartment and is still able to cook for herself. She saw many atrocities perpetrated against Armenians and believes Turkey should just admit the truth. She lives in California near me.

Also, the U.S. Ambassador to Turkey in 1915 was Henry Morgenthau. He wrote a book about his first-hand experiences in dealing with the 3 Main perpetrators, Enver, Taalat, and Djemal. He personally witnessed and watched the whole thing and tried to get help for the Armenians. You can read a few chapters from his book, they are fascinating:

gwpda.org/wwi-www/morgenthau/Morgen23.htm
gwpda.org/wwi-www/morgenthau/Morgen24.htm
gwpda.org/wwi-www/morgenthau/Morgen25.htm
gwpda.org/wwi-www/morgenthau/Morgen26.htm
gwpda.org/wwi-www/morgenthau/Morgen27.htm

Also, one of your own wrote a book about the truth:
A Shameful Act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility
--Taner Akcam (Author)

Also this might interest you:

armenianweekly.com/2009/05/27/erdogan-finally-admits-turkey racticed-ethnic-cleansing/

A new documentary, "The Armenians: A Story of Survival," airing on local PBS stations in cities throughout the United States, includes a segment in which a prominent Turkish scholar is openly acknowledging the Armenian Genocide.

Engin Akarli, Professor of Middle Eastern History at Brown University, begins the interview by saying...

The Turkish Embassy officials were foolish enough to make such an arrogant demand, thereby depriving themselves of the opportunity to present their lies on TV. Their bullying tactics only work under the existing non-democratic conditions in Turkey!

cilicia.com/armo10e2.html

I also read: SMYRNA 1922, The Destruction of a City by Marjorie Housepian Dobbin as recommended by my Turkish Friend's Grandmother.

I also read: THE ARMENIAN MASSACRES, 1894-1896 U.S. Media Testimony.

It appears that 300,000 Armenians were massacred By Turks during this time period.

I also read BLACK DOG OF FATE by Peter Balakian

But to reiterate my original response, ...most Polish people whom I have talks with do not care for Turkish people and find them to be rude and obnoxious.

Can you explain this my Turkish friend???
PolskiMoc 4 | 324
15 Mar 2010 #581
What do I think of Turks?

Well let us just say.

Polish Jan Sobieski is my hero.

Because Jan Sobieski with the glorious Polish Winged Hussars slaughtered Ottoman Turks at the battle of Vienna saving Central Europe from Turks.

As well as Jan Sobieski saved Central Europe by slaughtering Turkish Tatars.

Come on? Millions of Poles, Slavs & Europeans were all murdered, raped, tortured & enslaved by Turks.
rock - | 460
15 Mar 2010 #582
RonWest

Have you ever thought that Armenians are good ar re-writing the history ?

Have read any books written from Turks side ?

Do you know that Armenians are rejecting Turkey's offer to establish a History Commission to clarify what really happened between 1870-1915 in Anatolia ? We offer to find real documents from Ottoman, Armenian, Russian, English, German archives.

Do you know that we feel ourselves very safe if it comes to real documents and real history.

We are very strong in this issue but of course we are not good at telling ourselves like Armenians.

Stupid politicians took some desicions in their parliments and they decide there was a genocide. It is more than funny. They are not historians. Their desicions are political. They can not show any reel document about these events.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Mar 2010 #583
Can't beat revisionist historians ;) ;)

The Turks here are well received. They never look intimidated.
walesboy 2 | 30
15 Mar 2010 #584
the turks in uk are perverts and snobs. Who run around raping blonde women . but i never been to turky an i hear in turky they are better
rock - | 460
15 Mar 2010 #585
Walesboy

Then visit Turkey Walesboy.

You will see how friendly Turkish people is.
Raj_ryder 10 | 106
15 Mar 2010 #586
You will see how friendly Turkish people is.

my best friend is turkish. The above statement is true(i have never been there) but most of the Turkish erasmus students rock...
king polkagamon
15 Mar 2010 #587
Turks are maybe polite but are primitive and boring.They are so boring unbelievable.Go to a beach in Greece and visit one in Turkey.Huge difference.
Raj_ryder 10 | 106
15 Mar 2010 #588
Go to a beach in Thailand and then go to Greece...Huge difference.
king polkagamon
15 Mar 2010 #589
In Greek beach you will see Greek girls topless and with strings and Russian with everything outside as we say.But in Turkish you will see families eating falafel.
Raj_ryder 10 | 106
15 Mar 2010 #590
And in Goa you'll see the topless Russian chick and would also be able to participate in a local social activity called a "rave party". Which would you prefer...the Greek beach or the beach in Goa?
king polkagamon
15 Mar 2010 #591
What is Goa?Here there are not only Russians there are Germans English etc but the culture is liberal you don\'t see police everyone does what he likes.
RonWest 3 | 120
15 Mar 2010 #592
Do you know that we feel ourselves very safe if it comes to real documents and real history.

What a joke! You meant, real re-written history, didn't you?

I made my case already and the whole world knows the truth. I cannot argue with brainwashed ignorance.
rock - | 460
15 Mar 2010 #593
Brainwashed ignorance is yours RonWest.

I am sorry for your stupidness.

We do not care west world's political desicions.

Fcuk you all.

We have strong documents.
RonWest 3 | 120
15 Mar 2010 #594
Fcuk you all.

Very intelligent Rock.......................
rock - | 460
15 Mar 2010 #595
Very intelligent Rock

You know RonWest. We can not be intelligent.

We only make genocides.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
16 Mar 2010 #596
We can not be intelligent.

True, true. The Turkish average iq is 89. :)

We only make genocides.

True, true.
rock - | 460
16 Mar 2010 #597
We ruled todays 23 countries between 400-600 years with this IQ.

Think that what could happen if our IQ is more.

Or maybe this IQ thing is an empty talk.

True, true.

No, it is not. I was making irony as you can easily understand with your high IQ.

Meanwhile how is your economy going ?
As far as I know Ireland is world champion in foreign depts. 10 times of its GDP.
What happened to the country in a short time. Can it be because of high IQ.
walesboy 2 | 30
16 Mar 2010 #598
i dont understand turks are muslims who are known for raping blonde women and polish women are blonde why would u like them?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
16 Mar 2010 #599
What happened to the country in a short time. Can it be because of high IQ.

We will be alright, dont worry about us.

How many of your people live without running water, proper sanitation, educational facilities, or basic food?

How many of your people will marry some 40 old recently divorced, obese, mentally unstable european woman just for an EU passport?
rock - | 460
16 Mar 2010 #600
First pay your depts RN. It is now more clear that you were the fake star of Europe. You are really funny.

We are not a tiny country like you RN, our population is 73.000.000. We have some problems but they are not like you exaggerate.

Our foregn dept is only % 46 of our GDP. Yours is 10 times of it.
You know how to spend others money. Let's see how you will pay.


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