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What do Poles think about Turks?


eras77 - | 7
25 Sep 2008 #541
I'm glad to we could get agree :)

Nationalist economic programs of Ataturk and newly founded republic were also so socialist reforms. today, liberal economic rules are against Turkey economy, and it gets worse and worse everyday. Turkey needs to re-nationalize its main economic sources before it's too late.

however, i think here is not the correct place for two Turkish people to discuss their country's economic situation in the language of globalization !:)

P.s. by the way nice to meet you rock.

majority of Turks are helpful, hospitable, supports weak and poor, humanistic and friendly. We really have very nice values.

it would be great when these values meet with the modern & civilized behaviors.
Maybe uneasy German citizens will see the "enlightened" side of the moon....
King Sobieski 2 | 716
25 Sep 2008 #542
For example if you say a lie ''we killed millions of Armenians and Kurds'' like Orhan Pamuk, they will like you but it is a lie.

maybe not millions, but thousands....it is my understanding there was a lil ethnic cleansing of armenians, or are they just crying over spilt milk??
mishka
25 Sep 2008 #543
When I was in Warszawa in 1992 I met a Turkish man in his thirties on the tram. He asked me for directions to a store. I got to talking to him as walked along. He told me that he was in Poland on a business trip to buy merchandise to export to Turkey.

We spoke over a cup of coffee at a cafe.
He started to feel at ease and started to reveal himself to me. He said to me that he just got of service as a Liutenant in the Tukish Army. He went on to say that he faught in Eastern Turkey against the Terrorist Kurds.

He prided himself at saying that after they killed the Kurds that they would DE-CAPITATE the KURDS Heads and mounted them on Poles so as to show the Kurds what will be done to them if they lift up a gun or rifle against the Turks.

I was shocked at this as he stated this with great pride and achievement of his career.
rock - | 460
26 Sep 2008 #544
maybe not millions, but thousands....it is my understanding there was a lil ethnic cleansing of armenians, or are they just crying over spilt milk??

no, it is not. I can tell what really happened if you are interested. But, the Europeans prefer to believe Armenians. Maybe because they are christains.

It is useless to try to change the prejudices. We Turks know that Armenian genocit claims are a great lie.

to show the Kurds what will be done to them if they lift up a gun or rifle against the Turks.

I want to confess when somebody lift up a gun or rifle against the Turks, Turks can not welcome them with flowers. But of course not happy to kill people even in war conditions. I don't support this guy's talk from this point of view.

If kurdish terorists kill innocent villagers, doctors, teachers and wants land for Kurds from Turkey, Turkey will not let them to live.
King Sobieski 2 | 716
28 Sep 2008 #545
no, it is not. I can tell what really happened if you are interested. But, the Europeans prefer to believe Armenians. Maybe because they are christains. It is useless to try to change the prejudices. We Turks know that Armenian genocit claims are a great lie.

why is the turkish opinion stronger than the armenian?

forcibly displacing and marching people across the desert without proper rations of food and water may not be genocide but it doesnt absolve the turkish government of guilt.

and funny that those who "reverted" to being muslim were allowed to stay.

educate yourself:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=5382
tzark - | 15
29 Sep 2008 #546
my turkish neighbours are really nice people, however there is supposed to be bad blood between the two nations due to past wars. I suppose my opinion could be a bit biased due to having a lot of friends from the Balkans but, I happen to like the turkish people I know.
wlan2 1 | 27
4 Oct 2008 #547
Unfortunately the Turks managed to spread this culture in Balkans as well but the slavic spirit of freedom tends to balance things.

slavic spirit of freedom? you mean women being slutty? all turkish people know all european and russain girls are ******, they sleep with every men they meet. we're muslims. our women are not slut like yours...
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
4 Oct 2008 #548
all turkish people know all european and russain girls are ******, they sleep with every men they meet

that's what you like to think but it's all boll*ox. take a look at your filthy face and think to yourself is there really a sober woman out there who would fancy to kiss that stinking gob full of rotten teeth? i don't think so.

we're muslims. our women are not slut like yours...

yeah and you have the smallest di*cks in europe, and your men work as prostitutes to satisfy old grannies and fat drunken trolls on a holiday in turkey. congratulations.
Shawn_H
4 Oct 2008 #549
our women are not slut like yours...

not according to this link.

Turkish Girls go for Well Endowed Black Men
topix.com/forum/world/turkey/T3DLEOPDHNOKNLCB7
beenerschnitzel - | 11
4 Oct 2008 #550
I will say I have had mostly positive experiences with turks. but I am from the US. I have been to turkey and loved it there. I may retire there 1 day. (At least I won't be kicked out after 90 days.)

My Polish cousin is like a district attorney in his town. They had a case where the best Turkish restaurant in town was busted red-handed killing dogs out back and using the meat. Unfortunately, this incident has tainted his view of Turks. He has no beef with eating dog - just put it on the menu so he knows what he is ordering!!!

It's not right for a small number of people to ruin the reputation of Turks. Nor is it right to judge a whole group based on the actions of a few.
eras77 - | 7
16 Oct 2008 #551
First of all, global (or should i say common?) human behaviors should not be limited upon only one nation, race or society.
Any woman from any nation could be a slut; or any man from any nation or race could be a pervert. a discussion of genital parts and sexuality doesnt help any one to find a point.

on the other hand, why I am obliged to learn history from one-sided articles and academics of western world? Nevertheless, i dont support ignoring politics of Turkish goverments and what was thought in school books.

Something had happened, but i again say it was mutual on war conditions. Does any one know how many Turkish people were forced to exile from Balkans and Aegean Islands?

Or how many of them were killed by local authorities and bandits? My own grand grand-father were killed in Crete while he was trying to save his family from the exile forced by Greek authorities.

Does it make sense to demand lands of Western Thrace from Greece now?
However, Turkish population there was higher before 1st World War, and many of these people were killed and whom survived had forced to exile to Anatolia.

If you dont know the word "mutual" please look up a dictionary and re-read the rules of "war reality"...
rock - | 460
18 Oct 2008 #552
Good points Eras77.

You have to comment more in the forum :)
tomek - | 134
11 Nov 2008 #553
First of all, global (or should i say common?) human behaviors should not be limited upon only one nation, race or society.
Any woman from any nation could be a slut; or any man from any nation or race could be a pervert. a discussion of genital parts and sexuality doesnt help any one to find a point.

I took a good part in this discussion and I never refered to singular persons, but only to the turks as a mass who is invading our beloved european soil. And to point out, hopefully the last time, every slavic tribe can be sure that, as history showed, may it be victorious like in Vienna or disastrous like in Varna, Poland will be there for them in the time of need!

Turks do not belong here. I have my personal issues with them! I live in Germany and you should see how every turk looks at a blonde man with a turkish-looking girlfriend from the Balkan!
rock - | 460
11 Nov 2008 #554
Turks do not belong here. I have my personal issues with them! I live in Germany

Quit personal issues or leave Germany. Because as far as I see Turks going to live there.
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
11 Nov 2008 #555
yes, they are like wrzody na dupie, hard to get rid of and don't wanna go away
tomek - | 134
11 Nov 2008 #556
Quit personal issues or leave Germany.

I'm not the one raising these personal issues.

Because as far as I see Turks going to live there.

If so hopefully some day they will adapt.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
11 Nov 2008 #557
What do Poles think of people from other countries that post stupid messages like..What do Poles think about...........people that dance naked with a chicken on their head....?
noimmigration
12 Nov 2008 #558
Lawrence of arabia was violently gang raped by turks when he was captured by them. Dont believe me, go and read up on it. Its also on wikipedia.
Filios1 8 | 1,336
12 Nov 2008 #559
Lawrence of arabia was violently gang raped by turks when he was captured by them

ha ha ha.... oh my...
So they 'conveniently' left that part out of the motion picture?
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
12 Nov 2008 #560
What do Poles think about...........people that dance naked with a chicken on their head....?

Mazurka most foul?
wildrover 98 | 4,451
12 Nov 2008 #561
Ha..very witty...that made me smile....
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
12 Nov 2008 #562
Ah my aim for the day has been fulfilled. Mind you it would have been better if I had spelt foul fowl but hey....
wildrover 98 | 4,451
12 Nov 2008 #563
been better if I had spelt foul fowl

no matter...i got the joke...
freedquaker - | 2
12 Nov 2008 #564
Czesc! :)

I accidentally ran into that web page when I was making a search about "Polish origin Turks" (like Nazım Hikmet and many other). I have been to Poland, and have many Polish Friends both in Poland and here in America. I am Turkish by the way.

I love Poland and Polish people, I somehow have a "bond" with Polish people. I liked most of the Polish friends I have met and they have also loved the Turkish people they met. I believe Both the Poles visiting Turkey and vice versa will love the other culture and people. However, if you are contacting with Turks online, thats a whole different story.

Probably because of some deeply-embedded stereotypes in Turkish culture about Europeans (like all women are promiscuous and think Turkish men are hot!), Turks online tend to be jerks and even worse, jackasses. This has VERY little to do with the actual culture and people. The nicest guy could turn into a jackass when he is online talking with a "hot European chick(!)" because of his stereotyped mind and his anonymity! There is also one more factor which is prevailent all over Islamic countries, Guys are Sex-Thirsty! All though there are always exception, they are usually nice guys, save the ignorant, redneck and sex-starved ones.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
12 Nov 2008 #565
Probably because of some deeply-embedded stereotypes

I should not worry about it...the only people worthy of friendship are those who will judge you as a person , not by your country of origin...One of my best Polish friends is a guy who never liked English people very much , but we became friends despite me being English...if you are a nice person people will like you....I have been to Turkey incidentally...loved it...
freedquaker - | 2
16 Nov 2008 #566
I totally aggree with you "wildrover" though I was referring to the other way around, stereotypes in Turkish people's minds about Western People.

When they meet a woman from the West, they behave totally differently than they would otherwise behave with a Turkish woman or a woman from an Eastern culture, because of their kind of twisted image of Europeans in their minds (expecting them to be promiscious and easy feat!). The addition of anonymity could turn them to jackasses (unleashing the repressed animal in them, lol).

Lack of social pressure has a different impact on Turkish women as well. My words, by no means extend to all women, but a significant number of them, facing no (or very little) social pressure, takes "liberality" too seriously (referring to places where not many Turks exist, or Turks dont have much of a social influence like America), They become quite promiscious, as if avenging from the "repressed past". Then they begin to get trapped in a moral/religious dilemma as well as an ever-existing cultural one.
Polak89 1 | 13
20 Nov 2008 #567
**** turkey. love live the slavic peoples
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
20 Nov 2008 #568
I totally aggree with you "wildrover" though I was referring to the other way around, stereotypes in Turkish people's minds about Western People.

I have to say that this is one of the most interesting and honest posts I have seen in quite some time on this fourm, which also compounds what I have always said, men from certain countries treat Western women with complete dissrespect because of their own ignorance and beliefs. (no offence to the poster you seem quite a well rounded person)
eras77 - | 7
17 Dec 2008 #569
I really don't want to involve in that discussion anymore. In the education systems of third world countries children are taught that Western people are always(!) civilized and respectful to each other and to the rest of the world. So, as an European-culture educated Eastern, I don't have any right to accuse anyone with spoiling "Aryan" soil of Europe.

You say "you should see how every turk looks at"; but i don't need to see them, because I already live with them in daily life...

have nice discussions to everyone..
tika - | 1
9 Mar 2010 #570
I don't know what are they tinking about turkish men , but its intresting what turkish men are thinking about Georgian grils ;)


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