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What do Poles think about Turks?


Vineyards
10 Oct 2007 #31
There is a whole Polish village in Istanbul. The people of that village are Poles who fled from their country when they were subjected to tyranny. These people have lived in this tiny village for 150 years and they have interacted with the Turkish people very closely.

You could check out that site to find out what the Poles think about Turks. I think they have some idea after physically existing in a Polish village in Turkey.

polonezkoy.com

P.S. The site does not accept web links for guest users so you must add the three w's yourselves.
Ronek 1 | 261
10 Oct 2007 #32
i love american people who is peaceful

Oh lol, I almost felll of my chair;)
american peaceful? are we talking about the same nation;)?

What do you think about Turks?

As for this question. We have a long history together Poles and Turks - you should now what I mean;-). And I have lots of respect for you nation for the sole fact that your nation. During the history at some point we adapted few good things from the turkish culture.
Ranj 21 | 948
10 Oct 2007 #33
Oh lol, I almost felll of my chair;)
american peaceful?

Are you saying there are no peaceful Americans, Ronek? Tsk, tsk....I thought you were more open minded than that:(
Ronek 1 | 261
10 Oct 2007 #34
I thought you were more open minded than that:(

Ranji of course there are peaceful americans, actualy I'm pretty sure that most of americans are peace loving. And its the same in every nation.

However I'm talking about americans as a whole nation and a country. When discussing americans separetly, and asking every single one of them separetly I'm sure most of you would state that love peace and democracy.

But we're talking about the general country actions and policies because in the end of the day ideas and words of single americans dont speak as loud as the actions of the whole nation.

And c'mon you cant hide the fact that US gets involved in all sort of military conflicts around the world, and so did in the past from the moment USA was born.

Now I'm not saying that it makes USA an evil or war mongering country (although some of those conflits are bs) but all those actions clearly state that USA is not a peaceful country.
Ranj 21 | 948
10 Oct 2007 #35
Ronek

Thanks for clarifying.....I'm just a little moody this morning.....insomnia is getting the best of me, I am afraid.....plus I have yet to have my morning cup of java:)
turkogluturk - | 3
21 Nov 2007 #36
i am a new member in the this form, and my english isnt fulent to say evrthink what i wnat to say, for that sorry

well i would like to say all member who writed somethink about turkey and turks,if you dont know anythink same cultures or people and you hate all them it means you are so stupid, first you have to visit and talk with turks and live wth them a bit time , you hadnt ever been in turkey ,dont tell me pls you know evrythink about us an you hate us not that i love all nations who is smart and frendly even you so there are any reason to say that samothink about turkey bad

yes you are right to say same turks arent good ,but not all
AvJoeUK
21 Nov 2007 #37
you hadnt ever been in turkey ,dont tell me pls you know evrythink about us an you hate us

Its not nessecarily like that Turko, but aboard here in say England it only takes afew badeggs to quickly create a negative steriotype, unfortunately the only Turks I have met here have been them very eggs.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
21 Nov 2007 #38
hate all them

Who wrote that... ?
osiol 55 | 3,922
21 Nov 2007 #39
I've met some nice ones and some not-so-nice ones.
There is a very good Turkish restaurant I go to occasionally, as well as a few dodgy kebab shops.
Of course, it's not all about food, but...
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
21 Nov 2007 #40
I like Turks :) especially those who live in Germany :) with big or very big families I just love them ;)

and to be serious ... I think that (most of) Poles dont have any bad stereotypes about Turks ... so live in peace
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
21 Nov 2007 #41
i don't want to generalise on this topic, but Turkish men i came across happened to be the sleaziest and slimiest creatures i have ever seen. both those in my area, and the ones on skype... i have met a few nice turkish people too, dont get me wrong, but seriously if turks want to be respected and liked they shouldnt be so damn full on and sleazy when they are single and looking...
turkogluturk - | 3
21 Nov 2007 #42
yes i am for you who write that some turkish guy on the skp or the same like this program arent good ,you have right yes teraz a chce pisać po polsku my też lubimy polski osiby,a nie mamy problema z ich i jestem żonaty z bardzo fajna i dobra polka

bardziej przedtem moja zona tez myszlewa że turków nie są dobrego ale teraz bardzo lubie
i tried to write sometink polish and i hope it is correct,so i just want to say that bad humen is evryhere not only a few country and it doesnt mean all those country are not good

yes we are the muslim people in the turkey but you have to know that too turkey is very civilized country ,go and see how mch that is all


pszepresam ,ja nie mówiwem dobranoci
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
21 Nov 2007 #43
pszepresam ,ja nie mówiwem dobranoci

Admin you sound like a Turkish person speaking Polish

;)
turkogluturk - | 3
22 Nov 2007 #44
jestem turkem ,ale nie wiem na pewno że móvę tak turków
i uczawem po polsku w 4 miesięt i sam
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
22 Nov 2007 #45
Turkey isnt like a muslim country and most Turks are not strict muslims...Yes the men are quite full on, you just have to be pretty blunt with them...at lot of themn have an idea that white western women are easy meat!...
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
22 Nov 2007 #46
at lot of themn have an idea that white western women are easy meat!...

wouldve thought that having an opinion of sleazbags for ages turks would learn a lesson. i ignore every turkish man that tries to chat me up, and block them on skype straight away.
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
22 Nov 2007 #47
i ignore every turkish man that tries to chat me up, and block them on skype straight away.

So do I LOL
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
22 Nov 2007 #48
i sure hope you do just that!
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
22 Nov 2007 #49
I dont really come in to contact with them to be honest in the bars that I go to and I dont work with any so....Im only going off what I experienced on holiday in Turkey... As for skype.... most people are f*cking weird on there....I include women in that too....
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699
22 Nov 2007 #50
And c'mon you cant hide the fact that US gets involved in all sort of military conflicts around the world, and so did in the past from the moment USA was born.

yeah and if we dont get involved people are flippin out saying we dumped them.
its a no win situation.

not to mention all the people of the united states are from around the world.. they
just choose the United states as their homes. and they left these other countries
because there was to much war going on in those countries, so they came to a
peaceful united states , till people from other countries started begging for their
countrymen back to fight in war.. that was WWI .. so please lets try to learn more
about why AMERICA gets involved.. I dont think our leaders are any less corrupt
then any other countries.. But I still want to hold out hope that my countrymen
who are of other nationalities /mixed cultures came here for the same reasons
my grandparents did..

and so scrutinize all you want , especially you ronek. but those of us who live here
and those who have visited,, have the better picture and we are a good nation!!!

despite bushes actions..
hucar17
13 Jan 2008 #51
your problem is genaralisation.Turks,Muslims...there are 70.000.000 Turkish people in Turkey and you think they are all the same.that is your biggest fault...
osiol 55 | 3,922
13 Jan 2008 #52
Turks from Turkey or all Turkic people? I've never met a Yakut, so I couldn't possibly say.
Guest
15 May 2008 #53
Let me write as a guest.I am Türk, too.I don't think people think history too much.After 1848, so many Poles and Hungarian came here and taught many new things.Most of them become muslim.But, most of our people don't know them, i don't think Poles know, either.I think, Poles think according to just what the Türks they saw treat them.Poland is a far country.We don't have so much relation, too.

Somebody said about adultery etc.I thought adultery is banned for catholics, too.I heard that your priests can't marry so that they go to prostitutes.A Lithuanian girl said that to me.In all religions, people do not obey all rules.Faith must be in heart, not in concrete things.I know people who always worship but with have no mercy, also mean, not respectful to others or public rules etc.Worshipping mustn't be everything.

If you are a good person, good people will love you, too.But, they must recognize you, first.Everybody may have prejudices, this is not extraordinary.We have it, too.Human is human everywhere, i think.Some hasn't had good education.I don't mean school, mean life education.

Poles' views are not bad, obviously better than Serbs', Bulgars', etc. They don't have the complexes Balkans have.I don't understand why some Türks have aggressive replies.Just respect others, then, you will be respected by the people you want respect.And don't care too much who loves us etc.Human is human everywhere.All right Türks???
z_darius 14 | 3,968
15 May 2008 #54
i love american people who is peaceful but i hate their leaders like Bush, because i hate war, i hate the murderers....

You feel a lot of hatred then.
Hatred leads to wars.
Guest
16 May 2008 #55
"turks are not even respected by other muslim countries!!!"

I didn't care this last night.Let me continue for this.Can i learn who are the other muslim countries?Can you give any name?

There are several other Turkic nations, too.Most of them are muslim.Azerbaijanis are shia muslims but even the difference of the sect, their best friend is us.In Iran and Azerbaijan, whole Azeri population is much more than 25 million.Sunni Turks of Turkestan admire us, too.Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and the Sinkiang area of China.Also, Tatars and Crimean Tatars in Russia, other Turkic and non Turkic Caucasian nations all admire us.

Except Turks, there are other muslim nations, too.In Balkans, Bosniaks and Albanians love us.There are some muslim Macedonians, too.So do them.During the history we have always had good relations with Pakstan.We are not bad with Indonesia, Malaysia etc., too.Afghanistan is conflicted, now.Wahhabi rules there.We have some problems with Iran, because, they see us as a rival.Persians or other Iranian originated nations are not Türk, but Turkmens, Qashqaies and Azeris are nearly 30 million and those love us.Other non-Türk Iranians at least respect.And let's look Arabic world.A Wahhabi nation like Saudi Arabia don't like us, but we hate them, with their fake sect whose have just a history of 2 centuries.But, all Arabs are not wahhabi, but when you say Arab, people generally think Saudies.In Iraq, Syria, people always look us with and admiration.In USSR times, Syria had some bad works against us with them.But, when USA invaded Iraq, they were frightened too much.Some Syrian reporters in Turkey said that, they would want to unite with us if we were Arab, too.In Iraq, people were begging us after occupation, they were begging to Turkish journalists and they were saying "why don't you save us?We have always known you as the defender of the Muslims."In some other Arab countries, situation is not bad, too.Only some wahhabi states don't respect us.And this is not a problem for us, it even makes pleasure.In northern Africa, we are respected, too, especially in Tunisia.They take us as model.
Marek 4 | 867
16 May 2008 #56
The Osman Empire and the Austro-Polish connection date back a ways, since the 17th century ay least, and so many of the daily amenities which Europeans simply take for granted, owe their existence in large part to Turkish culture, e.g. 'kawa' (coffee) which, of course, is of Turkish origin and a staple of almost everyone's day!

Even the very ritual of dining while seated or also reclining for pleasure is of Turkish origin, albeit the non-urban dwellers up until this day, may well eat seated on the floor rather than on chairs as is the Western tradition.

All of the above may already be common knowledge, yet given the nature of this topic post, I felt somehow that it bears repeating. -:)
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
16 May 2008 #57
"e.g. 'kawa' (coffee) which, of course, is of Turkish origin"

No, it isn't...they imported it as did everybody else!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee

"...Coffee is a widely-consumed stimulant beverage prepared from roasted seeds, commonly called coffee beans, of the coffee plant. Coffee was first consumed in the 9th century, when it was discovered in the highlands of Ethiopia.[1] From there, it spread to Egypt and Yemen, and by the 15th century had reached Armenia, Persia, Turkey, and northern Africa. From the Muslim world, coffee spread to Italy, then to the rest of Europe and the Americas.[2] Today, coffee is one of the most popular beverages worldwide.[3]..."

It seems that may bears repeating!

"..Coffee use can be traced at least to as early as the 9th century, when it appeared in the highlands of Ethiopia.[1] According to legend, Ethiopian shepherds were the first to observe the influence of the caffeine in coffee beans when the goats appeared to "dance" and to have an increased level of energy after consuming wild coffee berries.[12] The legend names the shepherd "Kaldi." From Ethiopia, coffee spread to Egypt and Yemen.[13] It was in Arabia that coffee beans were first roasted and brewed similarly as they are today. By the 15th century, it had reached the rest of the Middle East, Persia, Turkey, and northern Africa.

In 1583, Leonhard Rauwolf, a German physician, gave this description of coffee after returning from a ten year trip to the Near East:[14]..."

So absolutely NOT "of turkish origin"!

Even the very ritual of dining while seated or also reclining for pleasure is of Turkish origin

Erm...so the Europeans stood all the time till the turks showed them how to sit???
Marek 4 | 867
16 May 2008 #58
Hallo, Bratbursche!

Obwohl es stimmt, das 'kawa' keinen tuerkischen Ursprung hat, ist es wahr, dass die Tuerken den Europaeischen Hofadligen einen hoeheren Lebensstil verliehen hatten.

The Turks indeed endowed the European nobility with a higher standard of living!
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
16 May 2008 #59
I like roast Turkey for my Christmas dinner!
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
16 May 2008 #60
Erm...now after admitting that coffee is so not of Turkish origin why not dispel with your other myths?

If you mean the history of chairs and stools you mentioned before - we have the Egypt's, the Chinese and even the Greeks:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair

"...The earliest known form of Greek chair, going back to five or six centuries BCE, had a back but stood straight up, front and back. ..."

"...In Europe, it was owing in great measure to the Renaissance that the chair ceased to be a privilege of state, and became a standard item of furniture whoever could afford to buy it. Once the idea of privilege faded the chair speedily came into general use. We find almost at once that the chair began to change every few years to reflect the fashions of the hour.

...but again nothing about turks!

So...the European nobility did drink their non-Turkish coffee quite comfy on not-Turkish chairs....anything else?


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