What do Poles owe to Jews?

If the russian abyss can be called space, then yes.

There you go again with needing to make distinctions plus outright lying about what actually happened and why.

These communists lost their cushy jobs because they were Zionists and rather than stay in Poland and find another job they emigrated on their own to Israel thus proving they had divided loyalties and deserved to be fired.

Nope, they were Polish communists aka ethnic Poles. From Polish villages and towns.


No, liar, they didn`t. They were forced to emigrate coz they were threatened by ethnic Poles they wouldn`t find any job and their kids would be expelled from universities and grammar schools.

Ethnic Poles gave Jewish Poles and Polesses a one way passport without the right to come back.

That's what dual loyalists do.
That Jewish assimilation is a funny thing...When it's beneficial to be Poles, they are Poles. When it's beneficial to be a separate minority, they are a separate minority.

Just as with blacks here...One day they Americans...Next day they are a Black nation with its own national anthem...

The so called travel document - it allowed to leave Poland but not come back.

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Then I would also accept it with a kiss. Unfortunately, I was only 5 years old at the time. Well, since normal Poles did not receive passports at all, Jews were treated better than Poles.

Yes, liar, they did.

They were too full of themselves to find and do real work so left on their own and Israel welcomed them with open arms simply because they were Jewish and had demonstrated loyalty to Zionism rather than to Poland.


Yes, their life is an endless contradiction depending on which way the wind blows and they genuinely think no one every notices.

Novi got one. :):):)


Were you like Novi then???

How did you get one then when you traveled to New York during the PRL? :)

...because they were not Poles.

I travelled in 1990. It wasn`t PRL anymore! Ha!!!

Ethnicity vs religion...Depends on which one is more profitable.
Rosenbergs, Pollard,...those upstanding Americans...

On paper maybe but Poland was still undertaking political and economic transitions. Jaruzelski was still president until the very end of December 1990.

So how did you get to travel to New York during a time of such upheaval without taking advantage of pre-existing commie-connections? :)

Yes, darling, but Solidarity had taken over in 1989 and people could travel to the West freely at last. Ha!

Congratulations!

How did you feel when you realized your communist education and values made you totally unprepared and incompatible with life in an actual capitalist country like America?

You must have been seen as completely alien to the Polish community in New York who had genuine Polish roots from the Second Republic and Government-in-exile. :)

I was unprepared but got a grip quickly coz I am intelligent and hard working. Ha!!! Besides, I spoke English which wasn`t so widespread among Poles at the time. HA!


I lived in Greenpoint, indeed, but didn`t contact local Polonia coz I was too busy studying, working and saving money for my own apartment in Poland. Ha!


You mean those notorious antisemites from pre-war times, Dmowski epigones?? Then it is good I didn`t contact them. hahahaha

Dr Zamenhof lived in 19th century and was the Polish Jew who invented Esperanto - the artificial language which was still used decades ago by a few million people all over the world.
Can you imagine that in the past Chinese readers got to know Polish literature through Esperanto???

Thank you doctor - you aimed at introducing a neutral language which nations might use to understand each other better thus avoiding wars and conflicts. How noble of you!

That depends on the meaning of "communist". I graduated from a "communist " Polibuda as MSEE and had a job as an engineer within 48 hours of landing in NY.

No, I didn't study Marxism 101, Gender Studies, or how to be a Social Justice Warrior.

For this crap, you have to come to America and after graduation be a receptionist at Planned Parenthood with $100k in debt.

Communist education was not perfect. I never learned how to become a woman in 3 seconds or less.

Of course not, Mr fairy tale teller. :):):)

What kind of job could a Polish communist engineer get 48 hours after landing in New York? Oh, I know, sorting garbage.

...but it didn't say "Assimilated Poles sa Polakami".

What about the unassimilated Jews? If they were all "assimilated, there would be no need to add "assimilated", would there?

In Poland, if Jews were "assimilated, there would be no Jewish ghettos, because "assimilated" means:

"Assimilated" means to become fully incorporated, absorbed, or made similar to a larger group, culture, or system.

Polish Jews did everything humanly possible to stand out and be separate...From how they dressed, facial hair, language, where they lived, occupations, discrimination against Poles, to the insulting and derogatory words and phrases about Poles.

No, I would not risk my life for some Jewish azzhole who evicted me because I was late paying rent or was not hired by the POS because I was a goy.

Tell that last remark to Tadeusz Rozewicz, Julian Tuwim or Roman Polanski, that they're not really Poles. They'd spit right in your blind eyes and charge ya for the eye wash!

While it's true that Poland's Jews were not as integrated into mainstream society as those Jews in Germany post-Enlightenment, the above named persons considered themselves Poles first and foremost.

They were Jews, not Poles. For them, changing names was a commercial transaction. BFD!

If I change my name to Robespierre, am I French?

They were born in Poland and their sole language was Polish.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's a duck!

There are many Poles born in Belarus and still claim they are Poles.

I would tell them to get the fvck out by sunset tomorrow.

Sounds roughly like those Volga Germans living for centuries in Russia, not knowing a syllable of German, while claiming German citizenship, having never set foot outside their birth country!

Indeed, that is an underrated and concise answer that explains and answers the OP's question in a nutshell.

I know more concise: Slt.

Or: 0.

Can you beat that?

Not only in Belarus.