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Poles should emulate Jews?


Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Mar 2015 #91
Okay, then explain this

The article you linked mentions that 41% of young Poles plan to emigrate. But people consider doing things all the time. However, it's one thing to make a plan and something entirely different to carry through with it. And then there are those who can start a plan but it fails.

Your article also didn't say how long young Poles plan to stay away. Emigration isn't always permanent and also requires the host country to approve permanent settlement. This shouldn't be taken for granted no matter how eager someone might want to leave their homeland.

Nevertheless, one explanation is that Poland's tax system does not favor young workers:

"A PWC consultancy report has found that Poland's tax system is not favourable to people entering the job market, contributing to pushing youth into working abroad."

Article Title: Tax system causing youth to emigrate?
Source:
thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/201393,Tax-system-causing-youth-to-emigrate

And in keeping with the title of this thread, another explanation of 41% of Poles planning to leave Poland would be that they are merely emulating their Israeli counterparts:

"...almost 40% of Israeli youth are willing to leave their homeland and intend to build their lives elsewhere."

Article Title: The real reason young Israelis are leaving the country
Source:
haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.622367

I imagine this 40% figure would be pretty much universal among young people. Simply look at the thousands upon thousands of mostly young third worlders streaming into Western countries each and every day.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
29 Mar 2015 #92
Nice post, Bieganski.

I imagine this 40% figure would be pretty much universal among young people.

That's an interesting thought. Is that mostly based on economic necessity or "political claustrophobia" (quoting Haaretz), or are young people simply more adventurous these days, what do you think? I have a hard time comparing Poland to Israel, especially when I look at the powder keg that is the Middle East.
Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Mar 2015 #93
Young people's desire to go abroad could be due to seeking better economic opportunities or to escape some form of harm or persecution.

But the young being the young it is most likely just wanting to do what they see others in their age group are doing without necessarily thinking through any long term outcomes of their actions. The world is more interconnected today than ever and communication and travel are cheap. Young people seeing their peers visiting, studying or working in other countries could easily be regarded as a form of cachet that they would want for themselves too.

Moving around is simply being human. Humans have always migrated and Poles have a very long tradition of spreading out to other parts of the world. Migration is hardly a trademark of the so-called wandering Jews and so it is nothing whereby Poles need to turn to Jews to learn anything about.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
30 Mar 2015 #94
Young people seeing their peers visiting, studying or working in other countries could easily be regarded as a form of cachet that they would want for themselves too.

Makes sense in a way, but we shouldn't forget that the 41% are on top of the millions that left Poland in the (relatively) recent past already. Wonder if that is going to bite Poland one day. Economic success needs people to feed it.
Crow 146 | 9,142
30 Mar 2015 #95
i think that Poles don`t need to emulate Jews, with all due respect on Jews. Why more foreign elements in Polish culture?

Poles should emulate themselves. When we are at giving advices to Poles, i think, in my opinion that Poles needs to start to celebrate (to re-celebrate) SLAVA, for example. Its a nice, known back in ancient time, universal Slavic family celebration.
Levi_BR 6 | 219
30 Mar 2015 #96
Okay, then explain this

Young people willing to immigrate doesn't have relation with economic situation.

It is NORMAL for young people will to emigrate, even when the economic situation is good. Just see how many people left countries like Switzerland or Finland to open companies in places like Singapore, Silicon Valley, etc.

If you have a young generation that doesn't want to immigrate and bring money to your country, maybe then you have a problem.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
30 Mar 2015 #97
Young people willing to immigrate doesn't have relation with economic situation.

Depends on how long they plan to stay away. If 41% of the young people (on top of those that have already left!) consider to leave home and wouldn't return for a decade or so, then Poland will be in deep trouble unless they can fill the vacant spots with trained people from somewhere else. A shrinking population (due to low birth rates and emigration) is not the best foundation for future economic growth.
Crow 146 | 9,142
25 Sep 2018 #98
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