Can anyone from Poland tell me about Auschwitz and The Ghetto?

You are a historical ignoramus. Jews contributed a lot.


You are a legal ignoramus, too. They don`t leave coz the conditions back in their country don`t allow it.

" Attacks and threats against French Jews surged 74 percent from 2017 to 2018... The report stresses that the "single greatest threat of violence" against French Jews emanates from radicalization among portions of a growing French Muslim population. " city-journal.org/france-anti-semitism

That's what I thought too but apparently some of the Polish people agree with her.......like most of them anyways.


I thought Israel allowed all jews to enter their mother country.

That's why Poland doesn't want the scum knowing that they would be in Poland forever because "the conditions back in their country" will last forever.

Asylums and refugees work when wars are between states - they start and end. Tribal wars between primates with IQs of 65 or lower never end.

Czy równiez Jan Karski jest w Polsce honorowany?

This is an English only forum, please read the rules

Yes, they refuse to have a controvercial politician on board. Very decent people.


Yes, he is. It is still remembered that his mission to the USA to notify Am politicians about the Holocaust was in vain coz nobody took him seriously, including American Jews who didn`t care about their brothers gassed in death camps.

He, Pileckí, Socha, and Lolek Wójtyla are among the true heroes of Poland!

Don`t forget Irena Sendler who rescued 2500 kids. Or Ulma family of 8 who paid with their lives for helping.

With Madoff as a point of reference, they would if they could make a buck.

No, they wouldn`t. American Jewish elites believed that Eastern European Jewry was worse and not worth bothering about. That is why they did nothng. I even heard opinions about American Jews` conscious agreement to a sort of cleansing - Eastern Jews were to be annihilated to remove bad genes from the Jewish race.

A very good article
nytimes.com/1982/04/18/magazine/american-jews-and-the-holocaust.html

Several doctoral candidates in history have issued a stream of indictments against American Jews in the form of scholarly articles published in various Jewish journals. A documentary film - ''Who Shall Live and Who Shall Die?'' - has been produced by a 25-year-old American Jew and it blames the American Jews and their organizations for inaction and indifference during the war.

That is one of the reasons why today so many American Jews claim that Poles participated in the Holocaust - they simply want to shift the blame on sb else at any cost.

Yes, they would. Jews like Madoff swindled the American Jews - the good Jews according to you. That is why Poles didn't like them - everything was for sale and Poland was just where they were selling things and collected rents. Nothing more.

After 6 years of waiting I can admit that our mock president has done sth worthy of praise at last. It is the anniversary of 1943 Ghetto Rising today and he said that Jews fought like lions for their dignity to the very end, scaring German soldiers, convinced about a quick and easy suppression of the Rising.

And he added: Some people say they were our Jews. No, I prefer to say: they were Ours. In Polish - Nasi, meaning the same folk as us.

Beautiful words. I almost cried.
historia.wprost.pl/10440063/78-rocznica-powstania-w-getcie-warszawskim-prezydent-duda-byli-nasi.html

Daffodils are the symbol of rememberance of the past events and the tragedy of Polish Jews.

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Jews never have and will never be the same as Poles. We are two entirely different people. Our traditions, our history, our ideologies, our religions and even our biology and genetics are totally different.

Yet, we lived in the same country for centuries. And many Jews became the same Poles as ethnic Poles.


And that is so wonderful coz we attained amazing diversity. Remember our motto? Diversity rulez!

@DirkDiggler, tell assimilated Polish Jews like Tuwim or Tadeusz Róziewicz that they aren't "Polish" or have no true polskosc.LOL

Well that's weird half the Yiddish language is made up of Polish words... and the cuisines are more or less the same minus pig. ....

Why would anyone speak Yiddish while feeling Polish, speaking Polish, living in Poland, observing Polish customs and tradition, liking Polish art and culture, enjoying Polish food, and benefitting from the protections of the Polish military and the legal system?

I thought that such people are commonly known and referred to as Poles. Am I missing something?

Do many Poles speak Mongolian? How about Latin?

....and why should they. Not much good did come to them from their diaspora. They only always wanted to go home..."next year in Jerusalem" and all that.

If I would pack my bags and leave I would also still stay a German, wherever I go....

Please read #525, CAREFULLY this time!

When Jews have pierogis, they can`t contain pork. :)


Yes, every single time. :)

Today it is the first time in history when presidents of Poland, Germany and Israel celebrated the anniversary of the Ghetto Rising together.
The 80th anniversary.

President Duda gave an emotional speech, as always. After the monument part, they went to the synagogue to light the candles.

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We Germans LOVE our history! Seriously....we are being the BEST at remembrance, nobody does it better than us....

I just wish we would use the memory for a better future....I mean, look at the photos....that's Steinmeier.....one of the biggest supporters of Nordstream....totally disregarding polish actual wishes and needs and warnings...but he does great speeches at those times, doesn't he....

Such trivial stuff becomes unimportant when such tragedies are remembered.

He got older.

@pawian, I don't know if it's such a "trivial" stuff... We should learn from history and not repeat the same mistakes...

Anyway, that's good that all of them were there:

Yes, it is, compared to Shoah. I will stick to my opinion. :):)


Exactly but........ transporting gas through a pipe line like Nordstream will never be on a par with transporting people to gas chambers as during WW2. That is why I called the Nordstream issue trivial when compared to such a tragedy. That is why it doesn`t matter on such a day that Steinmeyer supported Nordstream. He came to Poland and apologised for German crimes. Again. That`s what counts.

When will Putin and other Russians apologise for their crimes in Ukraine???

After this rhetorical question, we have to agree that we like Mr President Steinmeyer despite all his controversies.

@pawian, of course I'm not comparing Nordstream to such stuff, have mercy on me... :) I meant that mistakes in policies can lead to such tragedies like the war in Ukraine when we're "feeding" the regimes of such people like Putin. I realise that it's not the right thread for such reflections though, sorry!


Yes, of course, it's very important.

...isn't it abit empty? Great words but no deeds...kinda? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Yes, but had Germans predicted it would end like that? No, they had been simply naive like kids but eventually were taught a lesson and put an end to their sancta naivety. . And that`s what counts! HA!


No deeds? I thought Germans abundantly compensated Jews after WW2. So it wasn`t only words.
PS. In case you mean Nordstream again, please stop - it is a trivial issue on such a day.

Poles warned Germans... They didn't listen...


And greedy. So were Poles, to some extent. Everybody could see what Putin was like and what he was gradually doing to RuSSia. Many clearly chose to ignore it and do business as usual. That's one of the accusations made by the RuSSian opposition and I think they're right. We should realise our moral and strategic failures in order not to repeat such mistakes in the future...