Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation?

Seen by your racist eyes. Oh how unfortunate Europe is to have demons in it.

That's what all racists say.

Anyway - you never mentioned any non-Slavic nations in your version of the Union (as I did
with Hungary and Romania for example) and you are so strongly against accepting Germany
in the Union - a country which, genetically, is probably 30-35% Slavic (as Germanic Goths
were included into Slavic ancestry and they mixed with us extensively), so...

...it looks like you ARE a racist after all.

I therefore (as a non-racist Slav) exclude you from the future Slavic Union, Lodz. Sorry.

Listen .. Germans are not in because of other reasons.

I have mentioned how to work with non-slavic union members ... in groups or in joint commissions ... teams ... I love everyone in this world equally.


I would love it ... if I were a racist ... I would love to be excluded. But I AM NOT.

Cant you see that my whole topic have been tried to be sabotaged? ... Racism is nowhere in my existence ... not even in great distances NO WAY!

Seanus, I can say for myself that I don't have anything to do with racism. But I had to read about it lately, and it seems that need for unity with your own and some level of distrust to outgroups is inherent to human nature, evolutionists say that we are more or less programed to do that, to favor members of ingroups and identify with them. This inquisition against something that looks like our biological trait seems quite futile, they managed to forbid overt classical racism, but subconscious one remains active even with those who are definitely sure they are for egalitarianism. Experiments from 2010.

So, even you or me,they say, we are not immune to that kind of differentiation/discrimination or bias.

I don't see the reason why would Slavic union (extremely hypothetical) face more racism problems than any other existing unity. (EU doesn't have problems with racism?! Roma, Arabs)

Racism exists everywhere. It seems it will too (legislation will help to reduce its classical manifestations).

Slavic nations remained quite ethnically homogeneous.
That is preventing, not facilitating the problem with racism.

I am for Slavic union. But we have to control the Croats. Poles can do that. We will as a counter favor control the Russians :))))

What other reasons? Name them.


Even racists?


The judgement is still out on you. For now you are excluded. Let's listen to your explanations
and then we'll decide what to do with you, grazhdanin Lodz.

Indeed, Torq :) :) Krupnik is prime stuff :)

£ódź, my wife is a self-confessed racist. She doesn't even like fellow Slavs for the most part. Co Ty na to?

Natasa is thinking pragmatically here, £ódź. Not slogans but concrete suggestions for bridging gaps. Snuffing out radical elements is key (paramilitary groups and radicals). Control those like the Yellow Scorpions and the Ustashe and you are doing well. They have no place in a union.

how the hell did she marry you then?

Anyways its then her life ... I got less to do in that.


I dont love criminals who dont want to change ... I've seen a skinhead head change into something very good. I like those who want to make a positive difference in their life.


They are racists... read some history for a change. By the way I am not against all Germans ... I am sure there are good ones out there who regret their bad past seriously ... and are looking forward to good life being happy and sharing joy.


I forgot I'm in PF and nothing can ever be serious here ... how the hell after all these years! ... heck =D ..

SLAVIC UNION doesnt take Germans are a member ... but as a friend if they behave in a friendly non-destructive manner.

Her words are like leaves in the breeze and she isn't malicious with it. Anyway, enough talk about others.

Do you really imagine Russia would drop their visa requirements? Even now, they haven't waivered the requirement. America and Russia just toy with Poland and how do you propose to change that?

Are you sure?

You're contradicting yourself.

Germans have given us a lot of proofs that they want to change and that they indeed
HAVE changed. For some reason, you refuse to acknowledge that and insist on keeping
them out of the union... interesting, grazhdanin Lodz, interesting... maybe it's because
they are, according to you, a different race? Unable to change for the good? Eh?


You're not really helping your cause by suggesting that I don't know history, Lodz.
Oy, bolshaya Siberia, bolshaya - you will go far, far away, grazhdanin. We have special
re-educational camps for racists like you.

The Germans have not changed.They just follow a different model.It is choice.

Love, trust, progressiveness ... economic stability ... cooperative spirit... eventually REVOLUTION is necessary.

Russians are mixed Sean ... I dunno how you got the idea of them being a racist. Even if some derailed youths are then they are foolish. They cant be themselves ... they are far too mixed (which is respectable and good ... dont misinterpret this).

World needs to change for good ... I feel that the Slavic People might be able to give a boost to it.

I am always with anything that gives the world a better look.

Why not include China and India and Australia and Turkey to EU? ... maybe for everything there are rules...

Sean ... if there is something better than Slavic Union which does better for the world ... I am with it.... but why not try see if the Slavic Union can give something good too? Whats the harm?


Oh you dont know me ... I am far from Racist.

I have written I am not against Germans but German domination or racist education to our derailed youth.

Prison your mouth.

Is that a fact? Why do you spell "Racist" with a capital letter then? Sign of respect, eh?

Interesting. Keep talking - I am gathering a lot of material against you here. You're currently
facing about 10-12 years in an anti-racist re-educational camp, by the look of things.

=D ...


=P ...

Oh ok ... its turned into a comic thread ... fine ... go ahead.

=) ... i dunno why i used capital letter ... didn't think of it that way. Why are you so obsessed with racism?

I am definitely not one ... I cannot be for many reasons. Its impossible for me =) ... 100% impossible =D ... ha ha

£ódź, some Russians are racist and some aren't. Now, can we get off of the racist element as I will keep repeating the truth of some...some...

They are NOT European countries, £ódź. Simples!

Whiy not strike while the iron is hot, £ódź? Tusk, Tadić and the new leader of Ukraine would likely be willing to talk with Putin but we can already see that a pro-Russian figure in Tusk isn't happy with their efforts (Smoleńsk findings). By all means, go ahead but brace yourself for disappointment.

Persistence pays off for sure! Keep working at it, £ódź

Subconscience?

Maybe you are a racist and don't even realize that? Living in denial all those years?
Well, we have a cure for that too.


Nothing comical about working in a Uranium mine in minus 30 degrees temperature, grazhdanin.


You keep repeating that all the time, and yet you spell "racist" with a capital R, you advocate
on creating a union based purely on race and insist on keeping 30-35% Slavic Germany out
of it at all cost. Interesting...

Yeah...I demand entry! *stomps foot*
And when you don't want us because we are Germans then that's proof of your racism!

Right Torq?

PS: What am I gonna say to Austria and the Benelux countries? France is also asking...

Absolutely.

I am not even considering if Lodz is a racist or not. We have already established beyond all
doubt that he is. At the moment I am only hesitating between 15 or 20 years' sentence
for him. Any suggestions?

Is there that many Slavic peoples in Germany BB?

I'm bringing especially big and sharp dogs...they want to have some fun too.. ;)


Since they don't wear signs of any kind it's only guessing...but if names are an indication...it's masses of them! :)

I meant genetically. Considering all the mixing of peoples (and people) throughout history,
they are at least 30-35% Slavic (and we are at least 30-35% Germanic). Common sense, really.


Sounds fair enough to me.

Very well then. As a Self-Proclaimed Superior Judge of Slavic High Anti-racism Court, I therefore
sentence the racist villain - Lodz_the_Boat, for twenty years of re-educational camp in Siberia.

*BB will provide the dogs as agreed*

....poor Sibirians though...now they have to suffer his babblings...

He will be subject to a gagging order and duct tape will be slapped on him :)

He will lodge a plea to be released through having Slavic papers. How does Judge Torq rule on this? ;)

I cannot be, my relationship is with a girl of another race and I love her madly.

That capital letter is nothing but your joke ...


Its not keeping out of it ... its just that I am trying to make a rule ... well then 30-35% is a very high mark ... i dont think there are so many.

It doesnt matter we all can work together ... its not a segregation thing.

YOU ALL ARE JOKERS ... =D

Yeah...a union with Poles and Germans and....ooopsie!

I will notify the administration of the Uranium Mining Re-educational Camp for Racists
so they will find him enough work, that he won't have enough time and strength to continue
with his racist propaganda.

Our Siberian anti-racist camps are very efficient. He will know all the Goethe's poems
and will say them with enthusiasm and love for German culture by the time we're finished
with him, the racist scum.


Not-a-snowball's-chance-in-hell.

Rilke is nice too...more about that german thingie where the Slavs have their soul....since we don't have something like that we had to substitute it. :(

There, there...

You have your ordnung, though. You can't have a soul and ordnung at the same time, I'm afraid.

£ódź, why not try for a Slavic alliance?

In the above link, it can be seen that NATO is going through definitional problems and some within are floundering.

The question is, £ódź, would a Slavic partnership across the board be more cohesive (in longevity terms) than the shaky EU big 3/US partnership? IMHO, NATO has been embarrassed in Afghanistan and we see how small and insignificant Germany is in military terms.