Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census.

Says who?


Have you been beaten up senseless for speaking Lithuanian ? I don't think so.

Anyone who is not in AWPL


I wasn't beaten, but still encounter was unpleasant. And yes, they tried to beat me because i spoke in lithuanian and didn't share cigaretes.

Yeah, keep dreaming.There some standards in the EU to be upheld.
It will not go away, sooner or later it will blow in your faces.


Some time ago two Lithuanians stabbed to death a Polish guy in England because he didn't give them fags.
There is a world of difference between fight and drunken brawl especially for teenagers and grown men being aggressive towards teenagers just because they are Polish.

Know a country where racial or nationalistic attacks are absent? Poland is definitely not an exception. As i said before, if there were some standards violated, EU would have stepped immediately. So stop crying, nothing will come of that.

Right, However I don't know any European country where government is actively encouraging racist and nationalizing feeling, also introducing some backwood chauvinist legislation to harass minorities.

I suppose policy pursued by Zimbabwe is your ideal. The Government fallacy on all fields is compensated by focusing on minorities and alleged "problem" they constitute.


Any examples ?


Don't be saying then that you haven't been warned !

I don't get it. Lithuania issues education law that is present in Poland for 10 years. All the fuss was only election show. If you still don't understand, then you are simply brainwashed. Have you been to Lithuania, talked with people living there? Or is your information come from Wilenskij Kurier?


Lithuanian signs, monuments vandalized, people afraid to speak lithuanian due to constant harassment. Enough?


You keep saying that, but will this happen? xD

After all that hassle with Lithuanians ! All that are fruits of your policy.


Already happening - see above!
You seem to be not able to grasp a simple fact that people in Poland regarded Lithuania and Lithuanians as friends. That has changed due to your actions.


Yes I have.

It happens all the time, many years before this "discrimination" crap. Usually it was windows of lithuanian schools or culture buildings. Now polish radicals took more offensive stance.


Lithuanians thought so too. Before this crap, my stance was friendly, but after reading comments from Sikorski, Tomasevski or people like you, it is not so good anymore. As always, only lithuanians are to blame, nothing new from ironside.


When? How many times? Which places?

never heard of that - yes there were news that some idiots painted Lithuanian monuments with spray paint - but never heard of any personal attacks - and you know some (like most) Polish media are rather anti-nationalistic and we would have heard about it

You see he is Lithuanian, is not that they are lying trough their teeth, they are just living in a different dimension.
I'm done here.

That's because there weren't anything major. A window broken here and there, someone got beaten. But that happens all the time everywhere. Those signs and monuments were something new.


xDDD

Poland needs a strong leader to show Lithuanians their place like in 1938.We should close the border with them to teach them a lesson.They will learn quickly when they will have to travel to Europe via Ukraine or Scandinavia.If that want help send some F16s to bomb Kaunas (as Wilno is a Polish city).

you must be young and a bit hot-headed

There is a Polish saying which accuratelly depicts Lithuanian behaviour Jeżą się jak pchła na kołnierzu.


I just don't understand why are we so soft on them when we can press them in so many ways for instance by closing the border and/or Możejki and they done without a single shot fired.

I guess I'd rather have Tusk as a prime minister than yourself - go figure

And then they wonder why there are so many who dislikes poles...

You must be a coward then.A little bit of gunboats diplomacy would quickly solve our problems with Lithuanians.Maybe they would even return Wilno.

Or will ruin Poland's prestige. Vilnius will stay in Lithuania, of that i am certain.

The beating that Poland will take from Lithuania's NATO allies after such an attack would be interesting, as would Poland's swift expulsion from the EU and NATO.

Closing the border would achieve what, exactly?


Closing the border isn't exactly possible when all the barbed wire was removed anyway.


Or they could humiliate Poland - or have you forgotten how they stuck two fingers up at the Soviet Union?

I can just imagine the headlines now as big Poland attempts to bully tiny Lithuania.


Do people genuinely believe in Poland that Poland could force Lithuania into anything these days?

Really?No,it would be just like in 1938.


Oh really?We would control the whole Lithuania before the NATO would even call a meeting and then we would negotiate new border with Wilno in Poland.NATO and EU can go to hell but they would get over it.


You think it's that much of the problem to put it back there?It's not.


Like in 1938?


Yes.Poland can press Lithuania but Lithuania can not press Poland.
We can also harras all the Lithuanian trucks transiting thru Poland.We have a whole arsenal of measures which could be used.

It is not interwar era. No polish leader would be dumb enough to try to change borders, because it would cause a lot of undesirable effects and destabilize whole region. In short, Poland would have nothing to gain, only to lose.

Ah yes. One year later, Poland was humiliated. And you think it's wise to repeat history?


Alternatively, NATO would order an immediate ceasefire - and when it wasn't obeyed by the renegade Poles - they would spring into action. You could also easily see a situation where Russia gets involved to protect her people in Lithuania - meaning Poland would be under attack from all sides. End result : Poland humiliated and internationally isolated.


It's no problem to put it back, but you'll find the other borders suddenly close up too. Poland would be paralysed within days if the borders were closed.


Good luck with that - I imagine Poland would be begging for mercy within minutes of being told that EU funds will not be paid until such nonsense stops. Incidentally, harassing trucks would hardly force Lithuania into submission - there are such things as ferries, you know.


Poland isn't going to risk everything for the sake of a few right-wing troublemakers in Lithuania.

Really ? News to me!


Don't bet on it.


you mean yourself and few flukes calling themselves gov ?the EU can keep those mythical funds!

Lithuania and the Nazis!
articles.cnn/2010-06-03/world/lithuania.nazi.prosecutions_1_holocaust-history-efraim-zuroff-nazis?_s=PM:WORLD

That is real desperation. :):)


It seems no more a problem.. The threat from the Kremlin hushed up old animosities to a large extent. Lithuanians know that after the Ukraine and Belarus they can be the next.