Cojestdocholery 2 | 986
24 Aug 2022 #211
Speaking about traitors Donald Tusk and the people from PO and others that are supporting Germany against Poland. They are traitors.
Poland: Her heroes and her traitors
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Or another version: hang his balls on his ears.
What do you mean with "supporting Germany against Poland"?
He means not supporting a particular political party that he favours.
Romuald Traugutt was a hero. Today is the anniversary of his execution by Russian barbarians on 5 Aug 1864. He was the last commander of the January Uprising. Caught by Russians and hanged in Warsaw together with other leaders.
Interestingly, Traugutt first served in the Russian army for long years and became a high rank officer for his merits in various Russian campaigns in revolted Hungary or Turkey.
Traugutt and the place of the execution.
Interestingly, Traugutt first served in the Russian army for long years and became a high rank officer for his merits in various Russian campaigns in revolted Hungary or Turkey.
Traugutt and the place of the execution.
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marion kanawha 3 | 107
27 Aug 2024 #216
Poland has been around as a nation a long time. Longer than Germany and longer than Russia, as we know it today.in that long period of time she has definitely produced a number of traitors. Lots of them in my opinion.
This thread definitely lists a few of them. Oftentimes traitors are produced because of internal conflicts - civil wars. Civil wars are the breeding grounds for traitors and Poland has had her share of civil wars. Some of the ingredients of civil wars are that they are based on 1.) GREED - the desire to maximize power and profit over control of the nation and/or 2.) GRIEVANCES - a reaction to an injustice and/or OPPORTUNITY - both sides feel the time is right to get something done there way through violence. Polish civil wars seem to have a hefty dose of all this.
My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country. After a period of two decades, they made sure Poland could never determine the course of her own fate.
That group was everyone involved in ruling Poland during 1697-1717. THE WORSE PART OF IT ALL IS PRETTY MUCH NO ONE THOUGHT OF THEMSELVES AS TRAITORS. As you read about this period the major players come off as greedy idiots afraid of losing everything and in the end they lost their country.
·Everybody involved in electing August the Saxon
·Definitely August II himself who tried to partition Poland not once but twice.
·All those involved in the Sandomierz Confederation backing August II and co-operating with Peter of Russia
·The royalist backers of August II AND THE CONFEDERATES OF TARNOGRAD. Both pathetic groups were duped into fighting each other and duped into negotiations. Worse, they were slapped into the Silent Sejm (1717), thus bringing to an end Poland's independence.
Out of all the published comprehensive outlines of Polish history (in English), this period is not investigated in depth. It's "glossed over" because it's such an embarrassment.
Unfortunately, there is a hero in this scenario. History records him as a hero. He's one of the "great men" of history. That person is Peter the Great. That's why he's termed "the Great". For us Poles that's a crying shame.
This thread definitely lists a few of them. Oftentimes traitors are produced because of internal conflicts - civil wars. Civil wars are the breeding grounds for traitors and Poland has had her share of civil wars. Some of the ingredients of civil wars are that they are based on 1.) GREED - the desire to maximize power and profit over control of the nation and/or 2.) GRIEVANCES - a reaction to an injustice and/or OPPORTUNITY - both sides feel the time is right to get something done there way through violence. Polish civil wars seem to have a hefty dose of all this.
My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country. After a period of two decades, they made sure Poland could never determine the course of her own fate.
That group was everyone involved in ruling Poland during 1697-1717. THE WORSE PART OF IT ALL IS PRETTY MUCH NO ONE THOUGHT OF THEMSELVES AS TRAITORS. As you read about this period the major players come off as greedy idiots afraid of losing everything and in the end they lost their country.
·Everybody involved in electing August the Saxon
·Definitely August II himself who tried to partition Poland not once but twice.
·All those involved in the Sandomierz Confederation backing August II and co-operating with Peter of Russia
·The royalist backers of August II AND THE CONFEDERATES OF TARNOGRAD. Both pathetic groups were duped into fighting each other and duped into negotiations. Worse, they were slapped into the Silent Sejm (1717), thus bringing to an end Poland's independence.
Out of all the published comprehensive outlines of Polish history (in English), this period is not investigated in depth. It's "glossed over" because it's such an embarrassment.
Unfortunately, there is a hero in this scenario. History records him as a hero. He's one of the "great men" of history. That person is Peter the Great. That's why he's termed "the Great". For us Poles that's a crying shame.
My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country.
Yes, they didn`t care about Poland and instead of improving the corrupt system on their own, they prefered to invite Russian troops to bring order but at the cost of establishing tyranny.