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Poland: Her heroes and her traitors


Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
24 Aug 2022   #211
Speaking about traitors Donald Tusk and the people from PO and others that are supporting Germany against Poland. They are traitors.
OP pawian  221 | 25287
24 Aug 2022   #212
Powiesić go za jaja

Or another version: hang his balls on his ears.
Alien  24 | 5721
24 Aug 2022   #213
What do you mean with "supporting Germany against Poland"?
jon357  73 | 23112
24 Aug 2022   #214
He means not supporting a particular political party that he favours.
OP pawian  221 | 25287
5 Aug 2024   #215
Romuald Traugutt was a hero. Today is the anniversary of his execution by Russian barbarians on 5 Aug 1864. He was the last commander of the January Uprising. Caught by Russians and hanged in Warsaw together with other leaders.
Interestingly, Traugutt first served in the Russian army for long years and became a high rank officer for his merits in various Russian campaigns in revolted Hungary or Turkey.

Traugutt and the place of the execution.


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marion kanawha  3 | 107
27 Aug 2024   #216
Poland has been around as a nation a long time. Longer than Germany and longer than Russia, as we know it today.in that long period of time she has definitely produced a number of traitors. Lots of them in my opinion.

This thread definitely lists a few of them. Oftentimes traitors are produced because of internal conflicts - civil wars. Civil wars are the breeding grounds for traitors and Poland has had her share of civil wars. Some of the ingredients of civil wars are that they are based on 1.) GREED - the desire to maximize power and profit over control of the nation and/or 2.) GRIEVANCES - a reaction to an injustice and/or OPPORTUNITY - both sides feel the time is right to get something done there way through violence. Polish civil wars seem to have a hefty dose of all this.

My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country. After a period of two decades, they made sure Poland could never determine the course of her own fate.

That group was everyone involved in ruling Poland during 1697-1717. THE WORSE PART OF IT ALL IS PRETTY MUCH NO ONE THOUGHT OF THEMSELVES AS TRAITORS. As you read about this period the major players come off as greedy idiots afraid of losing everything and in the end they lost their country.

·Everybody involved in electing August the Saxon
·Definitely August II himself who tried to partition Poland not once but twice.
·All those involved in the Sandomierz Confederation backing August II and co-operating with Peter of Russia
·The royalist backers of August II AND THE CONFEDERATES OF TARNOGRAD. Both pathetic groups were duped into fighting each other and duped into negotiations. Worse, they were slapped into the Silent Sejm (1717), thus bringing to an end Poland's independence.

Out of all the published comprehensive outlines of Polish history (in English), this period is not investigated in depth. It's "glossed over" because it's such an embarrassment.

Unfortunately, there is a hero in this scenario. History records him as a hero. He's one of the "great men" of history. That person is Peter the Great. That's why he's termed "the Great". For us Poles that's a crying shame.
OP pawian  221 | 25287
28 Aug 2024   #217
My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country.

Yes, they didn`t care about Poland and instead of improving the corrupt system on their own, they prefered to invite Russian troops to bring order but at the cost of establishing tyranny.
OP pawian  221 | 25287
11 Nov 2024   #218
Rightists have a huge propensity for trechery committed on their own country.
E.g., one of the PiS politicians publicly announced he was going to deliver a file containing unfavourable statements by representatives of the current government to Trump's circles. A few years ago Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk suggested that Trump was working for imperial Russians.

Why are rightists such traitors??? They already started in Targowica 250 years ago when they sold Poland to Russians.....
sambeliskiv  - | 72
13 Nov 2024   #219
You and I are the same. Every face and road patterns walked by and even events.
Because that's how it works, we have weird memories and it's like a movie.
Novichok  5 | 7885
13 Nov 2024   #220
Being a moron is forever.

Why so many congrate here is still a mystery...
OP pawian  221 | 25287
13 Nov 2024   #221
so many congrate here

They are probably attracted by other morons..... Birds of a feather flock together, don`t they??? :):):)

PS. I wasn`t alluding to Reverend Ptak.


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