Poland: Her heroes and her traitors

Speaking about traitors Donald Tusk and the people from PO and others that are supporting Germany against Poland. They are traitors.

Or another version: hang his balls on his ears.

What do you mean with "supporting Germany against Poland"?

He means not supporting a particular political party that he favours.

Romuald Traugutt was a hero. Today is the anniversary of his execution by Russian barbarians on 5 Aug 1864. He was the last commander of the January Uprising. Caught by Russians and hanged in Warsaw together with other leaders.
Interestingly, Traugutt first served in the Russian army for long years and became a high rank officer for his merits in various Russian campaigns in revolted Hungary or Turkey.

Traugutt and the place of the execution.

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Poland has been around as a nation a long time. Longer than Germany and longer than Russia, as we know it today.in that long period of time she has definitely produced a number of traitors. Lots of them in my opinion.

This thread definitely lists a few of them. Oftentimes traitors are produced because of internal conflicts - civil wars. Civil wars are the breeding grounds for traitors and Poland has had her share of civil wars. Some of the ingredients of civil wars are that they are based on 1.) GREED - the desire to maximize power and profit over control of the nation and/or 2.) GRIEVANCES - a reaction to an injustice and/or OPPORTUNITY - both sides feel the time is right to get something done there way through violence. Polish civil wars seem to have a hefty dose of all this.

My group of traitors are the ones responsible for the end of Poland as an independent country. After a period of two decades, they made sure Poland could never determine the course of her own fate.

That group was everyone involved in ruling Poland during 1697-1717. THE WORSE PART OF IT ALL IS PRETTY MUCH NO ONE THOUGHT OF THEMSELVES AS TRAITORS. As you read about this period the major players come off as greedy idiots afraid of losing everything and in the end they lost their country.

·Everybody involved in electing August the Saxon
·Definitely August II himself who tried to partition Poland not once but twice.
·All those involved in the Sandomierz Confederation backing August II and co-operating with Peter of Russia
·The royalist backers of August II AND THE CONFEDERATES OF TARNOGRAD. Both pathetic groups were duped into fighting each other and duped into negotiations. Worse, they were slapped into the Silent Sejm (1717), thus bringing to an end Poland's independence.

Out of all the published comprehensive outlines of Polish history (in English), this period is not investigated in depth. It's "glossed over" because it's such an embarrassment.

Unfortunately, there is a hero in this scenario. History records him as a hero. He's one of the "great men" of history. That person is Peter the Great. That's why he's termed "the Great". For us Poles that's a crying shame.

Yes, they didn`t care about Poland and instead of improving the corrupt system on their own, they prefered to invite Russian troops to bring order but at the cost of establishing tyranny.

Rightists have a huge propensity for trechery committed on their own country.
E.g., one of the PiS politicians publicly announced he was going to deliver a file containing unfavourable statements by representatives of the current government to Trump's circles. A few years ago Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk suggested that Trump was working for imperial Russians.

Why are rightists such traitors??? They already started in Targowica 250 years ago when they sold Poland to Russians.....

You and I are the same. Every face and road patterns walked by and even events.
Because that's how it works, we have weird memories and it's like a movie.

Being a moron is forever.

Why so many congrate here is still a mystery...

They are probably attracted by other morons..... Birds of a feather flock together, don`t they??? :):):)

PS. I wasn`t alluding to Reverend Ptak.

We are in a situation where the soon-to-be-resigned "president" Duda and the current PiS rightist opposition are trying to harm the Polish government and, consequently, Poland by all means. These people call themselves patriots. According to them, Poland is to be PiS` or fallen.
This is pure treason.
Tfu, PiS traitors! And nationalists and homo sovieticuses! Tfu on you!

Well, if pawian says so it must be true...

If you say so. Hoot !

That's really what some of them think.

Fortunately Poland is more robust.

It is amaSSing how PiS traitors look forward to the "deal" by imperial Russians and American MAGA gangsters which is going to Make America Small Again and diminish/humiliate Ukraine.

Two cases within two days:

The Ukrainian ambassador commented on PiS Przemyslaw Czarnek's words about President Zelensky's attitude during talks with Trump. Vasyl Bodnar called the PiS politician's statements "arrogant" and emphasized Ukraine's right to an independent state. "We would say, what an idiot," MP Czarnek said earlier, assessing Zelensky's behavior.

On Sunday morning, Grzegorz Puda, an MP from PiS party, stated on Radio ZET that signing the agreement between Trump and Putin and forcing the president of Ukraine to do so would be "more positive" for Poland than Zelensky "taking offense".

Prime Minister Donald Tusk responded to the PiS MP's words about Ukraine . "The line between stupidity and betrayal of national interest can be very thin," he wrote, emphasizing that "he really said it."

In this case, stupidity would already be betrayal.

... and it's not only Puda and Czarnek (not to mention all the muppets from Konfederosja) - PiS seems to be more trumpist than Trump himself recently. What a bunch of twats!

what is the merit in defeding that a-hole Z? I fail to see any aside from satisfaction of your inner sucker. Do you feel noble and high on your moral superiority mare?
Good for you, go and play bingo not politics because with such awerness you will be as harmful to the Polish interest as is that twat Tusk, (or Jarek).

He doesn't even understand what trump did means that polish politicians will be much more likely to push back when berated by zelensky about Wołyn or farm imports.
Yes, that's the sort of psl сука he is.

Hey, @Iron and @Amiga - do you want to hurt my feelings? Get in the queue! :D


That's right. Żywią y bronią, madafakas! hahaha :)

No, they want to kiss your ass but have no idea how to break it to you in public. They can be so shy at times. :):):)

Hey, I see you are freely exploiting baboon style. Amasing!!! ):):)

I always suspected that Baboon and Torq were the same person.

I never did........

Yes, it is quite useful in certain situations. :)

That would indicate a serious personality disorder. :D

Iron and amiga, great posts, guys...

Exactly. We are not that crazy.