The great mistakes of Poland's history?

Why on Earth would the Turks attack Poland, OVER another country? Seems it would have been Ukraine or Russia's (if we took Ukraine) problem to deal with.


I didn't realize I was back in class. Fine, one day soon, expect it.


Whoa! You are writing new Polish history here. Is this true? Now I must ask you to show me a single authoritative historian who has argued this unorthodox view.

@Bobko▲ 0▼ 0

Turks or Russians, the same. :):) Invasion is invasion, no matter who does it. And Muscovites, conquering the Duchy of Lithuania, would directly endanger Poland.


Poland had issues with Sweden after one Swedish royal became the king of Poland in 1587. It later led to first wars with Sweden from 1601 - 1629. When the Swedish -Polish king died, his Polish Swedish sons ruled Poland and they also had issues with Sweden.

So, Ukraine had nothing to do with those brawls.

@pawian▲ 0▼ 0

@pawian

Ok if you are lazy I will spell it out.

1) Khmelnitsky Uprising
2) The Ukrainians begin appealing for Russian help against Poland, after Poland initially crushes their rebellion.
3) Russia enters the war on the side of the rebels
4) Russia occupies Smolensk, Vilnius, most of Belarus, and left bank Ukraine.
5) Sweden smells weakness, and invades from the Northwest with its armies stationed in Pomerania.
6) Torn between two fires, Poland collapses in what is known as the Deluge.

You want to continue insisting that Ukraine is not involved with Sweden's invasion?

@Bobko▲ 0▼ 0

The events like the Muscovite and Swedish invasion you mentioned did take place, indeed. However, they would have taken place anyway, no matter if Poland was in alliance with the Duchy of Lithuania or wasn`t. :):):)


Of course. With or without Ukraine under Polish control, Sweden or Russia would have attacked anyway. :):):) SUCH A PLACE, SUCH TIME.

@pawian▲ 0▼ 0

Poland's four critical mistakes from recent history:

1. Allowing Polish politicians in power during the 1980-1990s to steal wealth built by generations of Poles, leaving it in the hands of a few criminals - some of whom still hold top government positions.

2. Trusting America / Israel.

3. Trusting Ukraine.

4. Trusting Germany.

@GregHistory▲ 0▼ 0

Poland has made no mistakes in recent history. On the contrary, Poland has seized every opportunity for further development.

@Alien▲ 0▼ 0

5. Contested and politicized investigations into the 2010 Smolensk plane crash that killed the Polish president.

@GregHistory▲ 0▼ 0

@GregHistory

What a complete moron!!!!


Agreed 100%!

@Miloslaw▲ 0▼ 0

@Miloslaw
What is your problem with the list? I agree with it. You probably know nothing about the recent Polish history. Poland let too many immigrants from Asia and not sure how it's going to work out as they compete with Polish workers for lower wages.

@Rufus▲ 0▼ 0