POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?

show me w single American or western European who agrees with toun that Poland is central Europe or such a concept as central Europe is taken seriously in those countries or places. why would you eant to be that anyway? why would you want to be central Europe or west? so you can follow the Vatican closer? makes no sense man. just be proud of who you are thats what they keep trying to convince me of on niggasin.space the Americans and British there so maybe they're right.

If Poles afraid to live in Eastern Europe than what poor Japanese suppose to do? Seppuku?!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
Or Australians? New Zealanders?!

As soon as Poland regain it rightful territories ( along with those less rightful) to the east it will proudly proclaim to be an eastern European power. So far geographically and politically speaking Poland belong to so called central Europe. American and other western morons are so slow that they cannot grasp that reality that had been here for the last 30 years. They need more than a one generation to get there.

Anyway kudos to them. They have the right to know what they want to know.
No issues there.
On the other hand we have some troll or other pervert having issue with Poles in Poland correctly recognizing a geographical and a political reality of today Poland.

Why don't you go and teach Americans in the USA that their country is located in Central America. It makes as much sense.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know the difference anyway.

wrong on all accounts friend. I already told you geography is constsntly changing just like you finally now admit above. It isnt about geography but culture. nothing to fo with politics or the current right wing pis govt either bud.

Not it has all to do with you being a..wipe. All this passive aggressive beating around the bush just to claim some outer nonsense. Nah you are not better cause you took meth straight form the source. know your place.

According to logic a nation needs to think about expansion if its population increases. Who will settle in this regained territories if amount of ethnic Poles is shrinking and even contra, millions of Ukrainians, Vietnamese and others are trying to settle in Poland?

Why are you worried? If not mind your own bussies.

When Germany is Central then Poland is too....because:



Heh:)


reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/me13y1/ko%C5%82obrzeg/

There's a thesis which maintains that the Germans never truly Christianized, but remained heathens at heart.

Most people have, if truth be known.

And still, no other peoples submitted en masse with such nearly unstoppable gusto to the unparalleled anti-Christian barbarism of the Third Reich as Hitler's million hordes! This then begs the eternal question "Why Germany?"

my message above rewritten:

Germany has always been the epicenter of Europe. Remember the holy roman empire? Also Germans were always war like and also looked to the east not just hitler. Remember the Livonians and the mini teutonic state similar to the order they established new Latvia? This is why I admire the Germans or their history they are just badasses warriors to the max in history at least. they fought and went against anyone. but and this is what i dont admire about their history is how they fled or chickened out form atilla the hun.

The issue though is far more involved than meets the eye. Most issues worth discussion are:-)

the Teutonic Knights were sort of like the spartans or vikings of the middle ages era (vs bronze age for spartans and not sure about vikings heyday ir if they rought the great teutons). they were like berzerkers. and had soke badass helmets those krzyzacy did.

Over simplified in your Globish vernacular, but essentially correct.

.....wouldn't that be cool!

The old gods aren't dead, they are merely sleeping! :)

*nods*

yay! human sacrifices all the way, capture ourselves few slaves and get two or three extra wives. Now you are talking BB!

I'm not so sure about the extra wives though....the germanic women weren't pushovers like the christian ones!

*ducks and runs*

Well that must be a Protestant take on women that made them pushovers, not too worry BB you don't have to if you are not up to it, after all only warlords can afford them, an ordinary tribe member well can do even without any women to push him over.

Human aka Judeo-Christian vs. animal aka heathen. I'm not defending the Crusaders either!

Merged:

Why do some eastern Europeans tend to force everyone calling themselves central Europe?

I like this answer or education reeducation should I say on history:

" Poland part of Germany for thousands of years? Are you sure about that? Neither of the two countries are thousands of years old. As regards the Kingdom of Prussia, it was established only in 1701, when the House of Hohenzollern finally formalized the personal union of Margraviate of Brandenburg with the Duchy of Prussia, a region in East Baltic that was a fiefdom of the Kingdom of Poland since 1525, after the desolution of the Teutonic State. These are the beginings of the modern German state, united into the Prussian-led German Empire in 1871. As far as Poland is concerned, prior to the Partitions of the late 18th century, it was never a part of any German-speaking political entity. Yes, some regions and provinces in today's Poland were controlled by German sovereigns in the past, but as a whole Poland, unlike Bohemia, was not a part of the Holy Roman Empire, neither it its early history, when it was ruled by the Polish House of Piast nor when it united with the Duchy of Lithuania under the Jagiellon dynasty. Even when partitioned, the puppet-state of the Congress Kingdom of Poland (dissolved after the January Uprising of 1863 and demoted to the status of Vistula Land) was ruled by the Russian Tzars, represented by their Viceroys. Prussia ruled over most of Greater Poland province, while the Austro-Hungarian Empire (successors of the HRE) had the Lesser Poland and Galicia."

Sad but true. PiS have been corrupting all political and moral standards beyond any limits since they came to power.
PiS always denies they are involved in corruption scandals and blames the previous government, the current opposition or the independent media. PiS scams are covered by PiS Ministry of (In)Justice and state media which they own.

In a normal European country, the public pressure would force the corrupted dsicredited politicians to resign. Not in Poland.

I must admit that Poland under PiS has become an Eastern European country again. What a shame!

Only the change of the gov will save Poland and bring it back to Europe.

I think that's how Poles view Poland too. That's why it makes most sense for us to call ourselves "Central", I guess.
I disagree, however, that we are borrowing only the worst from both West and East - that's a prejudiced notion :) We borrow the good, the bad and the ugly from both worlds :)))


So, is the Czech Republic Central or Eastern European according to you (or the "experts")?


What do you mean by "HRE"? Holy Roman Empire? If that's the case then Hungary was never part of HRE, because Holy Roman Empire never managed to conquer Hungary, as far as I understand.

Tacitus, as for RuSSia - the only people I've encountered who didn't consider RuSSia to be Europe were RuSSians themselves. RuSSia geographically is both in Europe and Asia. Mentally too, I think. This makes it similar to Poland in a way - a mutant country.

I don't see Poland as a European/Asian mutant country like Russia at all.
Poland, historically and culturally has taken on some Asian influence.
But it has always looked to the west.
But to say that Poland is a mutant country like Russia, is just wrong.

That goes without saying, many ways.

Me neither lol
Sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear :) I didn't write that Poland is an "European/Asian" mutant country like Russia. I wrote that Poland is similar in a way to RuSSia in the sense that they're both "mutant" countries. It's just RuSSia is a hybrid between Europe and Asia and Poland is a hybrid between the West and the East of Europe.

Poland is currently the most westward-shifted in its entire history.

@Alien

Yes, it is so Westward-leaning, that it thinks its best friend is a country across the ocean with which it doesn't trade, doesn't receive investment from, and where 95% of the population could not find Poland on the map.

Meanwhile, it treats the two countries that fed it and raised it from poverty with incredible contempt (I mean Germany and France).

Funny country Poland.

....and that ist true, but the problem is that this friendship isn't always mutual.

Falsity No 1.


Falsity No 2.


Yes, but the same applies to Germany or France so this argument has a zero value.

Bobko, tell us: were they conscious lies or you are so tragically misinformed yourself????