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Communism fell 20 years ago, Poland led the fight since WW2


ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #91
Come on, CK, how was communism good for the Poles?

I am very anxious, why do you think that the regime which was in poland may be attributed as "communism"?
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #92
Pawian, are you even aware what you have just said? I think you are a Ukrainian Jew and not Polish. Sorry, that's the way you seem.

The Poles will be as they will be. You can persuade people to change their ways and adopt certain traits but you can't make that a condition :) :) :) :) :)

There is relative freedom now. Never underestimate the value of that :)

CK, if you are anxious then you should take sedatives :) :) Do you even know what communism is, Mr Ruski? ;) ;)
PolskaMan  2 | 147
20 Jun 2009   #93
Some fought against communism when it was being introduced into the country.

And one of these brave People included my Great-Uncle Władyslaw Kłos
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #94
Do you even know what communism is, Mr Ruski? ;) ;)

If you are so currious, you can pay your attetion for reportages from NK. It seems to me that it is very difficult to find out sorrowful faces there, am I right?
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #95
Are you kidding? They have blind devotion to a regime that suppresses individual thought and streamlines how they will be. Are you really so subservient that you are prepared to have your life substantially determined by the vision of one man? Democracy encourages discussion and a wide range of opinions to be put forward.

CK, how do you imagine dissentients were treated in Poland under communism?
OP pawian  221 | 26024
20 Jun 2009   #96
I think you are a Ukrainian Jew and not Polish. Sorry, that's the way you seem.

I see my true identity has been discovered.
What can I say now??? :):):):):):)
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #97
You can prove me wrong by telling dear old Kostik how things were under communism :)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #98
CK, how do you imagine dissentients were treated in Poland under communism?

Too mild... They had to be burnt on the stages, in this case all would be quite.
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #99
Why don't you come to Poland and openly air your views, CK? I'm sure Warsaw residents would be sure to respond :)

Are you on the waiting list for toilet paper, Kostik? Does the Russian state prescribe haemmorhoids for you?
OP pawian  221 | 26024
20 Jun 2009   #100
You can prove me wrong by telling dear old Kostik how things were under communism :)

It was just great. I was 18, had sex for the first time and life looked wonderful. :):):):):)
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #101
Did you get the consent of the priest? LOL There's nothing like relying on other chumps to tell you how to live your own life, right? ;) ;)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #102
Why don't you come to Poland and openly air your views, CK? I'm sure Warsaw residents would be sure to respond :)

Even poles themselves are escaping this miserable country prefering constant redicule as refugies to life in poland. Then, why should I come in this gloom place.
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #103
They are going abroad for money, amongst other things, to put themselves in a position where they can set themselves up here.

At least they can 'escape', unlike with the gulags.
Sokrates  8 | 3335
20 Jun 2009   #104
If you are so currious, you can pay your attetion for reportages from NK. It seems to me that it is very difficult to find out sorrowful faces there, am I right?

Yes they're cheerfully starving in several provinces.
Ironside  50 | 12490
20 Jun 2009   #105
Too mild... They had to be burnt on the stages, in this case all would be quite.

Wrong!Sonny!
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #106
Seanus

It was just great. I was 18, had sex for the first time and life looked wonderful. :):):):):)

You see it Seanus? Actually life was rather free that even ukrainian jews had a rights for sex.
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #107
But what do you care for rights, CK? ;) ;)
mets2redsox0  - | 40
20 Jun 2009   #108
I think, this is a Wonderful Thread, and Pawian did a great Job!, well done!, very well done!, Now, I am old enough to remember, Pope Paul the 6th and John Paul the 1st, and I have to say, the one person who has not come up so-far is Ronald Wilson Reagan.

without John Paul II, the Solidarity Movement is Crushed sooner or later, and without Reagan, the KGB kill John Paul II in time, without the Friendship between Reagan and the Pope along with their mutually bond of hating the Communist!, how the world would have been a very different place, if on November the 4th, 1980 "Jimmy Carter" (aka President Peanut) beats Reagan.

on November the 4th, 1980;

The Russians are in Afghanistan.

The KGB is planing on killing the Pope (the first attempts was on May 13th, 1981).

52 Americans were held hostage in Iran (from November 4, 1979) for One Full Year!.

Time Magazine Cover Ronald Reagan & Pope John Paul II February the 24th, 1992 Issue Cover:


  • Reagan__John_Paul_I.jpg
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #109
Hats off to the Ukrainian Jew :) The boy done good :)
OP pawian  221 | 26024
20 Jun 2009   #110
Now, I am old enough to remember, Pope Paul the 6th and John Paul the 1st, and I have to say, the one person who has not come up so-far is Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Yes, Reagan was a good president for those times. He was tough on communists and that`s what I appreciated, though he declared economic sanctions against Poland after the junta cracked down on Solidarity in 1981.

And his joke about a nuclear attack on the Soviet Union starting in 5 minutes was superb. :):):):):)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #111
And his joke about a nuclear attack on the Soviet Union starting in 5 minutes was superb.

do you think that foolishness was a good joke? Quite opposite, I think that that mistakes uncover whole bottomless of american stupidity.
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #112
Not at all. CK, have you any awareness of international politics at all? Reagan had a good understanding with Gorbachev. It was all a quip!

Foolishness would've been taking The Cold War too seriously.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #113
Foolishness would've been taking The Cold War too seriously.

Come on boy, we all know that he was old marasmatic
mets2redsox0  - | 40
20 Jun 2009   #114
ConstantineK

do you think that foolishness was a good joke? Quite opposite, [I think that that mistakes uncover whole bottomless of american stupidity]

well, well, we all can see, where you are from!, how's the Weather in Moscow tonight Comrad?
Seanus  15 | 19666
20 Jun 2009   #115
CK, The Cold War lasted longer than communism in Poland itself. Wow, there was espionage and some trickery but nothing on the scale of daily hell and early-morning queuing. There was direct intervention in daily lives, forcibly so. Look at photos of Gorbachev and Reagan around 1985 and tell me that that was a 'war'.
OP pawian  221 | 26024
20 Jun 2009   #116
do you think that foolishness was a good joke?

I consider the joke immensely funny. :):):):):):):):) Listen to relive this great moment again:

youtube.com/watch?v=kifJ_mQdpZA&feature=related

Listen to his jokes about Soviet Union. Among others, a Soviet family has to wait 10 years for the delivery of a car - order today, come back in 10 years. :):):):)

youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A

Quite opposite, I think that that mistakes uncover whole bottomless of american stupidity.

If Americans were stupid, they wouldn`t have won the Cold War with the Soviets. :):):):) See above - 10 years` waiting time for the delivery of a car.:):):):):):)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298
20 Jun 2009   #117
well, well, we all can see, where you are from!, how's the Weather in Moscow tonight Comrad?

well, well, well, we have another Holmes among us... try to look into my profile first. I have never tried to hide my origin, mister Sock.
OP pawian  221 | 26024
20 Jun 2009   #118
Hey, it is a nice eagle. I like contrasting yellow and black.

polishforums.com/user_files/pics/3803/1_th.jpg
SeanBM  34 | 5781
20 Jun 2009   #119
Ronald Reagan

Listen to relive this great moment again:

Very funny :)


  • Ronald Ragan street in Nowa Huta
mets2redsox0  - | 40
20 Jun 2009   #120
ConstantineK

you don't have to hide now, because of President Reagan, but, watch-out Comrade!, Comrade Putin is Listening!, beware!!!, your paper's may not be in order?. LOL!.


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