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Malinowo: Polish-Nazi Supression?


OP Lyzko 29 | 7,245
13 Feb 2021 #181
Don't forget to mention sewer worker Leopold Socha and the Lwów Uprising.
Ironside 50 | 10,910
13 Feb 2021 #182
you think this guy's organisation can be trusted in the matters of Malinowo and Jedwabne

Absolutely. Do you have any other reason to doubt their integrity and professionalism other than you commie prejudices?
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #183
Absolutely.

So you trust people making Hitler salutes in Poland?

Not that what you trust actually counts.
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #184
Hitler salutes in Poland

Yawn. Yet another one of your cheap drive-by smears with no factual basis to be found. Par for the course with all of your posts really.

Indeed, they are making a Roman salute which is part of European heritage going all back to antiquity. Granted, it's not your heritage. So of course your understanding of Poland and Europe is going to be easily and completely distorted by pro-communist ANTIFA rhetoric. Thus leaving you to lash out in pre-programmed NPC rage at the mere sight of gestures which you simply are unable to determine and distinguish even with historical context staring you in the face.

Has The Louvre complied yet with your cancel culture demand to have the Oath of the Horatii removed and destroyed? You did contact them about this painting in Paris showing Hitler salutes, right?


jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #185
Yet another one of your cheap drive-by smears

Less of the weird rhetoric.

The Hitler salute is what it is; and illegal in Poland. Are you trying to pretend the guy was doing it as an homage to "the Horatii".

cancel culture demand

Grow up.

Was the painting done post-1945 with the full knowledge of Nazi atrocities in Poland or are you just making a fool of yourself?
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #186
Are you trying to pretend the guy was doing it as an homage to "the Horatii".

Are you trying to pretend the guy was doing it as an homage to Hitler?

We do realize that you are always culturally, historically, and linguistically deaf, dumb, and blind during your seasonal stays in Poland but that still gives you no justification to defame any Pole especially when you are quite simply clutching at straws in your pathetic attempt at virtue signalling.

Was the painting done post-1945?

Since when do dates act as a stop sign for you lefttard extremist vandals and your drooling, fevered quest for cultural destruction of all things Western?

If anything, the older a Western cultural artifact is the more reason the likes of you have to obliterate it from history.

Look at Jacques-Louis David's painting again. According to the "intersectional" "theories" you boastfully subscribe to it checks off all the boxes for being fascist, white supremacist, and patriarchal cisgenderist.

But oh, that's right. I know why you are suddenly too scared to place that "morally righteous" telephone call to The Louvre.

And it isn't yet another language barrier you would be confronted with.

Just this past week the French made it abundantly clear that they will have absolutely nothing to do with your lot's neo-Bolshevik bullsh*t.

'Out-of-control woke leftism and cancel culture' is a threat to FRANCE because it 'attacks' the nation's heritage and identity, French politicians and intellectuals say

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9242453/Out-control-woke-leftism-cancel-culture-threat-FRANCE-French-politicians-say.html
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,957
13 Feb 2021 #187
@jon357
I would simply check the sources of anything published by the IPN in Wrocław, maybe three times just to be sure.

Both you and @Poloniusz are right
The hand in the air salute is typically recognized as a Nazi greeting. That is because the Nazi's copied everything they could from Italian Fascists (They wanted to rebuild the Roman Empire... The horror) which indeed is where this salute comes from.

This guy in the picture might have the same perspective as Poloniusz adds, more likely he probably counts it as a fascist salute and not a Nazi salute.

Anyhow I would have argued with him that anything performed by the Nazi's&communists is open for scrutiny as something to fight so it doesn't see everyday light. One of them is this salute (Poloniusz if it's a Roman greeting, it's even worse)

Many people, just like that ONR guy probably thinks in terms of only left-right and that the most extreme is communism vs nazism. Which is only true if one is a socialist, there are several other ideologies which are less based on being a collection of people but, as individuals. Which fascists/Nazi's saw as a tool of their enemies etc (Liberalism, Capitalism, Monarchists etc)

I am not defending the guy here, I just think it's better that he talks with somebody then rots in jail. Why he was given that position? I have no clue
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #188
the guy was doing it as an homage to Hitler?

Are you seriously trying to suggest he was doing a Hitler salute at a fascist march to channel classical mythology? Grow up, Bieggers.

The hand in the air salute is typically recognized as a Nazi greeting.

Hence it being illegal in Poland.

I just think it's better that he talks with somebody then rots in jail. Why he was given that position? I have no clue

PiS, and the slide back to totalitarianism.
Ironside 50 | 10,910
13 Feb 2021 #189
Hitler salutes in Poland?

How they were making Hitler's salutes? Are you high? Organization they revived harks back to the 30:s in Poland and they had nothing to do with Hilter.

You are just like all commies if you don't have any argument or return you just yell - Hitler!
Well back at you kaput! and long time ago as has your brain.
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #190
Hitler's salutes

Look at the picture.

harks back to the 30:s in Poland and they had nothing to do with Hilter.

Does that preclude someone today doing the Hitlergruß while marching under a banner of hate?

It's worth reminding you at this point that "propagating fascism" is illegal in Poland.
Strzelec35 20 | 1,121
13 Feb 2021 #191
" Well back at you kaput! and long time ago as has your brain."

you must be very popular on twitter. try saying that to black americans on there or feminists like paulina and see hoe long before your account is gone.

" Does that preclude someone today doing the Hitlergruß while marching under a banner of hate?"

at march niepodleglosci i believe there were lots of heil hitler guys present doing their thang and slogans or banners. how would these fuys or soccer hooligans or ex cons or white supremacists in prison know what such a dalute means beside hitler or even be educated eniugh about poland in the 30s like he claimsz.
Ironside 50 | 10,910
13 Feb 2021 #192
e today

Wasn't that picture you posted taken about 20 years ago?

a banner of hate?

Why do you support similar banners of hate ?- LGBT banners.
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #193
that picture

That damning picture.

similar banners

Don't be silly, Ironside.
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #194
he was doing a Hitler salute

Really? How many times did he shout "Sieg Heil!" and sing the "Deutschlandlied"?
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #195
How many times

Who knows what sorts of deranged acts someone might do before or after being photographed doing a Nazi salute at a fascist rally....

Apart from being appointed to a senior role at the IPN...
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,957
13 Feb 2021 #196
@jon357
Hopefully he will work overtime and have less time for rallies in the future
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #197
@Mr Grunwald
The appointment was made only a few days ago. I suspect it will prove untenable in the long rum.
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #198
Who knows

In other words, there was no Hitler worship going on.

Your posts are nothing more than lies, propaganda, and defamation.

Apart from being appointed to a senior role at the IPN

IPN's role is to investigate Nazi as well as Communist crimes against Poland.

We all know you just want someone in there who will be a Zionist patsy and falsely blame Poland for Nazi crimes while ignoring Communist crimes.

Again, your posts are nothing more than lies, propaganda, and defamation.
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #199
Hitler worshi

There was however a photograph taken showing a Hitler salute. That much is a matter of record.

IPN's role is to investigate Nazi

As you know, their 'neutrality' is highly questioned and this latest development does not work in their favour.

Despite your juvenile rantings.
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #200
showing a Hitler salute

Lies, propaganda, and defamation.

their 'neutrality' is highly questioned

Questioned by whom? Zionists looking to shakedown Poland for unjustified reparations that's who!

Despite your juvenile rantings.

Just another instance of you projecting as usual.
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #201
Lies, propaganda, and defamation.

If he thinks the photo of him is defamation, he'll have almost the entire Polish media to sue...

Zionists

There you go again...
Ironside 50 | 10,910
13 Feb 2021 #202
Who knows what sorts of deranged acts s

Same goes for all kind of lefties. How many of those are scrutinized?
By the way those who are hiring people have some kind of mandate from the people. You have nothing. Tying to influence employment policy of gov institutions by bringing some pictures from 20 years ago and making some unsavory insinuation to backlist people. without taking into account their professionalism, skills and ability is a wrong thing to do.

It is a hate campaign .
Poloniusz 4 | 391
13 Feb 2021 #203
If he thinks the photo of him is defamation

He needs to sue you.

There you go again...

It's been going on since last century.

Jewish Social Studies - Children of the Revolution: Communism, Zionism, and the Berman Brothers

"Just at the moment when Jakub [Berman] was dancing with Molotov at Stalin's party, his younger brother Adolf, a Marxist-Zionist leader, was in Warsaw moving only vaguely more gracefully between the communists and the Zionist Left in a sad, desperate bid to preserve their wartime closeness.

The (left-wing) Zionists shared with the communists a common language and a common aesthetic, including an aesthetic dominant among the Zionist Left that could aptly be called Zionist socialist realism.

The communists, together with the Zionists, desired intensely to begin history anew, to reinvent the world."


muse.jhu.edu/article/174884/summary
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,957
13 Feb 2021 #204
@jon357
Don't you know about Poloniusz's stance on Hollywood and their war on Poland? He is very allergic when it comes to matters such as these, an inner American conflict between American Jews and American Polonia. You are just riling him up right now.

I understand your concern in the matter, but for the Members of that fringe group to learn something they need access to Polish history. It's precisely their lack of knowledge on the matter that they are a fringe in the first place. I would be genuinely surprised if IPN started to organize political rallies for that group. It would mean loss of political support for PiS, scrutiny filled campaign in the media and a scandal.

Poland's nr 1 enemy in the 20th century were Nazis&Communists.

I much prefer hooligans and their ilk to read books and talk then go around the streets beating up imaginary enemies
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #205
an inner American conflict between American Jews and American Polonia

Is there one? It sounds like rabid and hysterical anti-semism, rather ironic in this thread, don't you think? What have Jewish people done to hurt him so badly that he squeals and bleats constantly and boringly? He's still a kid, how have an entire ethnicity hurt him?

. I would be genuinely surprised if IPN started to organize political rallies.

They don't organise rallies at all, however a lot of commentators in Poland are arguing right now that they've just lost what veneer of respectability they once aspired to.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,957
13 Feb 2021 #206
@jon357
I thought you knew,

All Poles and Jews who were able to escape Poland during partitions, after ww1 and ww2 basically transported their hostile conflicts and relations with each other to U.S.A...

So any conflicts between Jews and Poles before ww2 lived and lives on in the U.S today. And it got nothing to do with Nazi Germany, they know perfectly well how to rile each other up. Most American tv shows show it quite easily, "Big Bang Theory" for example shows it with the character Howard and his Fiancée where he has a hard time connecting with his father in law in anything, world view, sports etc.
jon357 67 | 16,836
13 Feb 2021 #207
So any conflicts between Jews and Poles before ww2 lived and lives on in the U.S today

I doubt it touches most people's lives either thousands of miles away or here. Unless they're obsessives. After all, some Poles are Jews too, and the kid abroad getting hysterical and trying to justify public servants in Poland doing Hitler salutes in the street is far removed from any dispute whether real or imaginary.

As you know, the question here is not what Americans think of each other, it's whether or not historians can freely publish history books without censorship, as the current disgraceful lawsuit is trying to prevent.
Strzelec35 20 | 1,121
13 Feb 2021 #208
most american polonia are ignoramuses whom support trump and tight wing policies though. thy also dont trust each other.

"Tying to influence employment policy of gov institutions by bringing some pictures from 20 years ago and making some unsavory insinuation to blacklist people."

america is the worst at this and especially for any sexual ****. try getting a job with a record in america even if your job has nothing to do with the crime you were supposed found guilty of under their kangaroo courts or plea bargain system and see how that works for you in america like i said even if your job has nothing to do with it just jealousy alone or if you start doing good in life is what they care about there in that land. just look at their cancel culture that all started in america and still mostly is confined to american companies and institutions.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,957
13 Feb 2021 #209
@jon357
Your taking up that topic on an U.S based forum in the English language. We have to expect American opinion about it either we like it or not. We are guests here on this forum. Either we like it or not
Strzelec35 20 | 1,121
13 Feb 2021 #210
lets hope thei USA values and culture doesnt continue to spread particularly thei vile media culture and media circus culture and social media cancel culture and criminal justice system culture from there from ameikkka.

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