Was Daniel Fahrenheit a Pole?

Scientists will dig out Fahrenheit parents' remains to find out more about the scientist himself. It's an excellent ocassion to check their DNA.

Interesting point; I never thought about it this way.

BBs own words !

Heh:)


Nah...we will mingle and mix happily as we did for millennia now! :)

Especially now as close working neighbours without any borders whatsoever...

Just like the man who oversaw the destruction of Warsaw and numerous other Nazi war criminals?

No, just being born in what is now Poland does not make a person a Pole. Just as true Poles don't volunteer to attack Poland when ordered to do so by a foreign governments.

There is definitely funny business with Polish-German surnames :)

Do you apply that rule to Jewish people born in Poland as well?

Born in Danzig it is possible that he is 'German'. Danzig was then full of German, actually german town.His first name may suspect that he might be jewish. Just a guess.

Alan Watts once remarked that American Roman Catholics are really Crypto-Protestants. Could it be that some Polish-Americans on this forum are Crypto-Germans?

Pllz, Protestants are really half-way religious, they're wussies for whom Catholicism was too hard. It was the first step to becoming atheists.


Same vice versa

More on the Fahrenheit family:
task.gda.pl/files/quart/TQ2003/03/TQ307Z-C.PDF
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Protestants are also characterised by being loyal, patriotic and hard working. They certainly would never take the easy way out, unlike the children of traitors. And anyway, they're all God's children anyway.

I agree strongly with your premise that Germans don't want to shed their German heritage to be Polish.

That's why I believe Neitzsche is Polish. There is virtually no circumstance a German citizen like Nietzsche would ever say he is Polish if it wasn't true. Especially say it ADAMANTLY like Nietzsche did.

whether Catholic nor Polish-American, sorry (more options please, lol)

That is probably one reason, but he was also smarter than the average German. ;-)


Yap. It's a question of superiority for most of the Germans. :D

Nietzsche's circumstance was that he felt soceities with a strong independent aristocracy were superior and he thus he admired the szlachta and their refusal to submit to autocracy. The German aristocracy had submitted to autocracy and Germany's strongest class was its middle class and Nietzsche despised the paltry middle class virtues of hard work and obedience to authority and in this he was truly Polish. I feel many Polish-Americans on this forum respect productivity and efficiency more than the finer things in life like idleness and aesthetic contemplation and that is why they are Crypto-Germans.

You are correct. Most Jews in Poland were very proud of their culture and CHOSE to be separate from Poles. They really didn't integrate that much. If they did, since they were outnumbered by Poles 10 to 1, Jews would have been absorbed into the larger Polish population over time and the Jewish population would have virtually been diminished and diluted. But that wasn't the case.

Jews being a very proud people, wanted to preserve their Jewish culture, so they generally kept to themselves. That was there choice.

Poles in general probably have a higher chance of having some Ukrainian or German in them then Jewish, since there were more Germans and Ukrainians coming and going from and to Poland, since these countries bordered Poland. Conversely, the people of Germany and Ukraine can have some Polish in them because of their proximity to Poland.

Well...that must be the USians in them then..


Polish/eastern Jews for sure.

But western/german Jews was a different case. They were integrating totally...so many Germans who intermingled with Poles had also their ounce jewish heritage in them..ergo... ;)

Utter BS! My family is quite a good example of en "pre-German" family that became Polish! Why do you think so many Poles have German surnames? Hmm? Is it becaouse they thought of it as a trend? COME ON!

Being more prescise about Fahrenheit it's a large chance he is German as Danzig until 1945 were mostly German. (Although through periods of history they resisted the "main-Germans" the Prussians... He could maaaybe feel more Polish then Prussian if asked.. But ethnicly he was probably German and spoke German.

Polonization!

As Poles who lived in Germany got germanized in time, so were Germans living in Poland better polonizing.

They spoke German AND Polish! We still do! the "polonization" your talking about haven't had full effect until it reached my dad which knew zipp German what so ever! Now ofcourse he tries to learn soem as he is working in an German company but but...


One can still be ethnically German and consider himself Polish by nationality! Polish nationalism is a bit more open then the German one BB. It had to accustom to all the minorities that allways been living IN Poland. That's why for instance there were Jews whom considered themselves to be Polish! Like in the pianist! When they were marching and throwing bread over the wall they were singing a Polish patriotic song... go figuere?


Well thank the Nazi's... After ww2 anybody even reminding anythign about Germans were a bad thing! + add nobel roots! The commie party WERE NOT fond of my family AT ALL!

LOL And also because Poles weren't to fond of them and didn't want to mix with them.


They do, from what i've read it's Ukrainian, then German, Russian, and Lithuanian. I believe the intermarriage rate between Poles and Lithuanians was the highest except in actual numbers it fell behind due to the low overall Lithuanian population.

Yeah...must'n mix up ethnicity and nationality...not so easy these days!
Germans have problems with that I admit...


Ach scratch that...I only know the tidbits you tell the forum and you always make sure that everybody knows that your family is not really German at all and does everything to stamp that heritage out...being double proud Poles...extra strong!

Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

I mean you can hate the Nazis but be still german...where is the sense in changing your ethnicity after politics!

Indeed

That's why many people have a misunderstanding when coming to American nationalism... Many have ethnicities from Europe or other places and are have some cultural roots from there. But in nationality= American

Interesting theory but you’re forgetting one thing, those were the first Poles tp leave Dodge, now they are back on the German soil intermingling with the locals for the past 25 years.

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What dodge?

Dodge City, I thought you were fascinated by the Americans hence the expression.

Okay...*takes notes*

BB tisk tisk you didn't know what Dodge was? American expression like" I don't think we're in Kansas anymore"