So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think?

No, its to be taken as absolutely worthless.


These sources are mostly rubbish as well for several reasons, they do not account for Gestapo and SS members nor german police and german citizens who were killed for participating in genocide and atrocities on Poles.

They do not differentiate between casualities inflicted by Poles and Russians.

In other words they deliberately mask the whole truth in a disgustingly revisionist manner.


More to the point they're not to put Poland in a bad light but to put Germany in a good light. The dry facts are that the vast majority of german civilians who died were killed as punishment for proven acts of genocide, theft or expulsion of Poles and they deserved it but by putting all the deaths in one bag the anglo-saxon authors as well as Germans attempt to revise the picture and paint Poles as murderers rather than avengers.

What they paint as genocide was wartime justice, nothing more.

Reasons to that are in the early 50s when Poland was communist and therefore smeared in sh*t as with all easter bloc countries, Germans themselves took to it instantly attempting to revise their history of genocide by a smear campaign against the Poles which continues to this day in the west by simple principle of a thing put in motion decades ago.


Not at all, you're biased against Poland and will attempt to twist the facts to point in the direction you want and the direction you want is to make Poland look bad regardless of the topic at hand, you believe Poles deserve less and will attempt to prove so by lies and underhanded rhetoric every time.

And then Poles used it to detain and kill German people. Learn a little about the history of the land you claim to represent.

Yes, English people deny that the Irish Potato Famine was a genocide they created.

I would say it is more of a Western European thing to try to scape goat Russians & Other Slavs.

To make Slavs look worse & take the pressures away from Western European crimes to humanity.

When in reality much of the Russian Atrocities didn't even happen completely due to Russians.

Like Stalin the Georgian, German blooded Russian Tsars. Jewish Communists, Half Volga German lenin, Jew Lazar Kaganovich behind the Holodomor.
Jew Yagoba who setup the Gulag system.

And out comes another of the classic Polish approaches to history: when you can't blame the Jews, blame the British.

Hey, that counts as a personal insult. Quod erat demonstrandum... ;)

Maybe Palivec was right?
So called "inconvenient parts" of Polish history - what do you think?

Ok, so we are up to 2 Polish SS. Still 19,998 missing, given that you claim that one in 5 of the 100,000 was SS.
Even if we get up to 300, it's nothing worth arguing about for 3 days.


Where did I say it? You are hallucinating.

Excellent stuff. Sadly though it was actually agreed that in Poland there would be free and fair elections, so there was no betrayal at all. But well done on dealing in classic Polish fashion with another inconvenient part of Polish history.


Keep repeating that line, the facts still remain the same.


Here's a picture of his secret funeral:

And here is the tiny announcement which sneaked past the British:

You and who else???

It isn't like any Pole today can shoulder the blame nor take credit for what their ancestors committed or accomplished.

PolskiMoc,

The next personal insult will get you suspended..... yet again.

Brits kept the documents of Wladyslaw Sikorski's death away from the Poles.

That is the rapayment for Poles helping you in the Battle of the Britain?

Oh but Brits always say they saved Poles. NO 9 months after Nazis Invaded Brits will still sucking spotted dick & The French were still blowing on Frog legs instead of helping Poland.

Where was the vote for Poles to vote against being taken over by Soviets in Potsdam & Yalta?

So you've realised that you've lost this one. Or is there another reason why you lie so tragically about what I said? It was actually "one in fifty".


You claimed that the Polish concentration camps were not concentration camps because they were run by Poles for Poles: Dachau was run by Germans for Germans and so, in your tiny mind, was not a concentration camp.

Oh, sorry, I forgot that it wasn't run by Poles and so you feel no compulsion to lie about that bit of history.

Show me a single source of the £ambinowice camp being used by Poles against Germans?

All I can find is the £ambinowice camp. being used by Germans against Poles & the French.

No, your repayment included the Warsaw Uprising, in which several times more British airmen fought than the number of Poles who took part in the Battle of Britain.


"This Polish Provisional Government of National Unity shall be pledged to the holding of free and unfettered elections as soon as possible on the basis of universal suffrage and secret ballot. In these elections all democratic and anti-Nazi parties shall have the right to take part and to put forward candidates." That is what the British and Americans agreed to.

/wiki/%C5%81ambinowice

All of this would have not happened if Westerners had followed the great Josef Pilsudski who was the first to stand up to Soviets in the Polish Soviet war.

Pilsudski also wanted Poland & France to attack Nazis in 1933 as a preventive war.

Now, If The west had helped Poland in the Polish Soviet war then we could have eliminated the Soviet threat.

IF Westerners had helped Poland & France take out Nazis in 1933.

We could have saved like 100 + million European lives.

But, Yet, Still in 1939 the French & English were too cowardly to attack the Nazis. If France & England had attacked Germany when Germany was invading Poland it would have taken the Nazis out.

But, Personally I think everything is a big game to Western Europeans you get off on Controlling & Weakening nations like Poland.

A way of getting rid of the competiton.


Good Germans deserve to die.

it should be a crime against humanity to let a single German live.

I gave it to you. Enjoy your little victory.


(You still didn't produce the evidence for 498 to be completely clear.)


According to Wiki on the camp in Dachau (which conveniently today became a reliable source of information): "The camp was originally designed for holding German political prisoners and Jews."

And yet another classic Polish approach to an inconvenient part of their history!

OK, I'll ask the question which is never ever answered: exactly what could Britain have done in 1939 to help Poland which it did not do? I look forward to seeing you dance all round the question.

Well, that is only YOURspeculationsso far Harry !
Nobody is stopping you from hiring some historian to research that subject!


Not only Polish sources but also German. Let say, he was Polish - so what ?


That a few clearly shows your bias and prejudice sunshine, two hundred. There was documentary in Polish TV about that, few years ago. So, your claim about sweeping it away is burst


What fact? The fact that before WWII there was political prison in Poland, and if you want to call it concentration camp to maliciously bring connotations with German camps from the times of WWII.


Not that bad, considering times and circumstances - maybe not nice and I do not condone that but not that bad. Once again, nobody denies that, well nobody is going about it round the clock, but your claim that it is not dealt with is empty and invalid.


Yes, terrorist organizations or organizations closely associated with terrorists !


Several ? When? After WWII camps was run by Soviets and traitors. Poles were in those camps as the victims along with others !


Fine, but those practices () started in 1937 and there hardly been time to implement them before 1939. Again, hardly a secret, some do goodies and other pussies ram that down our throats every now and then, probably because it was about Jews. Hardly a big deal considering.As for others countries (not that it matters):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerus_clausus#Numerus_clausus_in_the_United_States


Police was OK!


They were doing a good job !
Harry, what is your issue ? Time to confess:)

France & Britain together could have invaded Germany in 1939 while Germany was busy fighting Poland. It would have been like Normandy in 1939 & would have ended the war.

The Nazis were a threat. Pilsudski attacked Soviets not Russians.
Pilsudski wanted to Attack Nazis not Germans.

Pilsudski was in control of Poland long before 1933. He knew Hitler & the Nazis were scum & He wanted to prevent WW2 from happening.

Oh but I forget alot of Banks in Britain & Alot of Westerners actually helped fund & empower the Nazis.

Well, by continually lying, you pretty much did.


And those Jews were French? Belgian? British? Or were they German?

Oh sorry, I forgot that if you admit that Jews could be German, it'll mean you'd have to concede that Jews could also be Polish.

"Bloodlands", Timothy Snyder. Over 6000 German citizens were murdered there.
By 1947 over 7 million German citizens were deported from Poland, from the "recovered territories" = Germany.

Well done, but I asked you what Britain could have done. I'd like to know precisely where they should have attacked and with precisely what. I look forward to yet more evasion from you.

Awesome 70 million Germans should have been deported there & killed.

Germans don't deserve the right to exist after what they did.

Soviets went way too easy on them.

Soviets & Poles together should have shot & killed every German in site much like Germans did when they invaded our nations.

I guess you are US and therefore have no idea about history.
Piłsudski came back to Poland in 1918.

Who invaded Poland in 1939 once again?

It was called a concentration camp at the time and that is what it was.


Any proof? Oh, sorry, of course not.


Deny, deny, deny, and keep denying!


Yes, rounding up Jews and packing them into cattle trucks off to the death camps was a perfectly acceptable thing to do. Oh, sorry, yet another inconvenient part of Polish history....

Yes & Pilsudski didn't want Poland & France to attack untill 1933 when the NAZIS took over.

Pilsudski knew that Nazis & Soviets were slime.

When Pilsudski invaded the Soviets he attacked Soviets.

Pilsudski could have destroyed the Soviets. This is still when the white Russian army were fighting the Soviets Pilsudski went to war with Soviets not White Russians.

He knew the Soviets & Nazis were slime. If Westerners had followed Pilsudski so many lives would have been saved.

But the Soviets sued for a Cease fire in the Polish Soviet war.

Yeah, IF the West had backed Poland we could have completely stomped out Soviets.

Oh but it was the German Government in WW1 who sent the Bolsheviks with supplies to Russia to destroy Russia with the Soviet Union.

Even U.S President Woodrow Wilson sent Leon Trotsky to Russia to create the Soviet Union.

IT is all a big joke. Western European slime purposefully creating mayhem because they are so vile, controlling & afraid of Slavs getting in the way.

So we should blame Poland for allowing the USSR to exist. What an original version of history you tell!