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Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light



mrhappy    
20 Mar 2007  #91

Pfff...I've just shown mtDNA, Y-chromosome as well as genome wide SNP data.

My understanding of these issues is pretty damn good.

Btw hot shot, EU18 is not an mtDNA marker. It's a Y-chromosome marker which is these days better known as R1b. And it's not common in Poland.

EU19, or R1a is much more common.

So, not only did you mix up Y-chromosome data for mtDNA, but also gave the wrong haplogroup.

You're out of your depth.


Grzegorz_ 52 | 6,196    
20 Mar 2007  #92

Mind you, Y chromosome studies do at least show that Poles have scarcely found a single German sexually attractive over the last 1500 years.
Which isn't surprising, really!

What ?
shewolf 5 | 1,077    
20 Mar 2007  #93

Recent years have seen the publication of a plethora of genetic reports dealing with the Polish population. As a result we now have a fair idea about the Poles' genetic structure and position in Europe. In many ways these studies have challenged traditional anthropological and historical research on Poland, which often claimed the Poles to be strongly mixed with a variety of ethnic groups that have migrated to the region over the centuries.

Hi mrhappy. I've seen you on a different forum. I find this information very interesting. What are your thoughts on autosomal DNA? Some say it's flawed. Others find it reliable. Do you know anything about the autosomal DNA in Poland? I should start a different thread on this topic.
Varsovian 93 | 638    
21 Mar 2007  #94

R1b is rare, which is what makes it so interesting
Giles    
21 Mar 2007  #95

Well I for one haven't got a clue what anyone is talking about, where Huegal or Bubba
josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #96

Sub-Saharan African specififc mtDNA haplogroups are much more unusual in Poland, and appear more commonly in such western European countries as Germany and France.

Hahaha, I wonder how the "Master Race" feels now, ahahaha

From all of this MtDna testing going on, science is showing that the order of the day is variation and not essence. Human life began in Africa and as such we are all one much to the chagrin of the ridiculous and cartoonish white supremacists.

Janusz Liberkowski

That's an old man. He looks Mexican.

I don't understand you motives. I am a person who is interested in motives and makes moral judgements, so after receiving your answer to my question, I am not any clearer on the purpose of you "skin colour" investigation.

The purpose is a nefarious one. I am plotting to take over the world. Armed with that information I shall be one step closer to world domination, LOL.

A haplogroup is a genetic marker. A cellular imprint denoting membership to a certain grouping of humans who are also sharing that imprint. It specifically deals with the phenotype of the individual. Just off the top of my head.
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #97

A cellular imprint denoting membership to a certain grouping of humans who are also sharing that imprint. It specifically deals with the phenotype of the individual.

Well he should have just said that.............f^ckin scientist :)

Alright I gotcha now. Thanks Jose :)
shewolf 5 | 1,077    
21 Mar 2007  #98

That's an old man. He looks Mexican.

Poor Janusz. What if he's reading this right now? He'll be hurt. :)

A haplogroup is a genetic marker. A cellular imprint denoting membership to a certain grouping of humans who are also sharing that imprint. It specifically deals with the phenotype of the individual. Just off the top of my head.

Have you had your haplogroup checked? I'll tell you mine if you'll tell me yours.
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #99

"Hahaha, I wonder how the "Master Race" feels now, ahahaha

From all of this MtDna testing going on, science is showing that the order of the day is variation and not essence. Human life began in Africa and as such we are all one much to the chagrin of the ridiculous and cartoonish white supremacists."

Do you really think people buy into all that? You seem to fear these evil white's because you deleted your myspace profile pretty fast :). However one thing is for sure you definatley have african negro in your blood you have many facial features of a black. As for master race yes you got it :)

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josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #100

myspace profile pretty fast . However one thing is for sure you definatley have african negro in your blood you have many facial features of a black.

If it came from the non-racist Polish posters on board I'd accept it. Your comments are imbued with hate because of my tireless defense of the negroid race who suffered for centuries. Their suffering is equivalent to The Holocaust. They have suffered under the most oppressive, degrading and sub-human measures known to mankind. And you are proud of this. You believe to make me feel bad because of this. I could only hope to be counted worthy amongst the negroid race for their example as an ethnic group who despite their tragedy contributed greatly to the American landscape.
larry casula 2 | 69    
21 Mar 2007  #101

Actually Jose,
Only 5% of all the slaves came to America, the Spainards brought them and had over 95% of them, so it is a misnomer that America had all of them, we only had a small percentage.
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #102

"Your comments are imbued with hate because of my tireless defense of the negroid race who suffered for centuries. Their suffering is equivalent to The Holocaust. They have suffered under the most oppressive, degrading and sub-human measures known to mankind. And you are proud of this. You believe to make me feel bad because of this. I could only hope to be counted worthy amongst the negroid race for their example as an ethnic group who despite their tragedy contributed greatly to the American landscape."

JOKE OF THE YEAR. I had no idea you were a comedian :)
Puzzler 9 | 1,089    
21 Mar 2007  #103

Josecipomadupera, have you had an incestuous relationship with your mother or father? If so, how did it feel? How does it feel to be a vicious psychopath and racist? :)
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #104

Josecipomadupera, have you had an incestuous relationship with your mother or father?

Why? You into that kid of stuff? Gotta find your own kind? There's probably a nice "White Pwoer" website out there for you :)
josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #105

Actually Jose,
Only 5% of all the slaves came to America,

OK, but it was a tragedy of epic proportions. Families ripped apart. Children stripped of their mothers.
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #106

Those poor porr negros who suffered so so much because of the evil white man. That's a real hoot! Go dive yourself into some real books.

[quotePosted by josecitomadera]

Blacks have suffered so much this is why prisons in america are full of them. This is white they rape and steal. Sell crack and place outrageous demands on others. This is why they are over represented in crime figures all over the world. They are not stupid because they have low brain activity, it backs the white man put a majoic spell on them years ago. Evil white! must be interracially bred out through means of black/white intercourse so we can all be like me, the low self esteemed single unattractive puerto riccan I am. It's all the white mans fault!!.[/quote]

Oh here comes ArturSzastak the champion of tolerance but only for mr josecitomadera. "You bumb as beans white american!" or so your little friend calls you :)
josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #107

ADMIN SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS RAMPANT RACISM. THOSE WHO DON"T POST ARE MORE THAN THOSE WHO DO AND THEY CAN ONLY BE APPALLED BY THESE PEOPLE.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089    
21 Mar 2007  #108

Hey, Artur. Why do you suggest that there's a 'nice white Pwoer' (sic) website there for me? Please explain what do you mean. By the way, are you happy with Joseducipo and other racist psychos insulting Polish people on this website? Are you at all Polish, ArturSzastak? :)
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #109

Those poor porr negros who suffered so so much because of the evil white man. That's a real hoot! Go dive yourself into some real books.

[quotePosted by josecitomadera]

Blacks have suffered so much this is why prisons in america are full of them. This is white they rape and steal. Sell crack and place outrageous demands on others. This is why they are over represented in crime figures all over the world. They are not stupid because they have low brain activity, it backs the white man put a majoic spell on them years ago. Evil white! must be interracially bred out through means of black/white intercourse so we can all be like me, the low self esteemed single unattractive puerto riccan I am. It's all the white mans fault!!.

[/quote]

You have a valid point for once. YES, TODAY's blacks are using slavery as an excuse (not all of them) but they weren't even alive to see the days of slavery. Many of them are just not trying hard enough to make themselves into something that can make their childeren's future brighter. But my hat's off to the many that try their hardest.

It's a sad truth, many blacks still use this as an excuse for the things they do. I love black people and all, but some of them need to get life figured out. They are giving the whole race a bad name.
josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #110

"You bumb as beans white american!"

If I said something to this effect, it was misconstrued and for that I ask forgiveness of the nice kind Polish folk on this board. When I posted that I intended to say that all races are equally doing poorly in all subject areas in the USA. Anyway I'm not trying to white wash my errors. I'm only human, prone to mistakes. I'm sorry for this. I equally love the good in all races and despise the evil in all races.

I have never insulted any Polish people. I can only feel solidarity for a group of people who have also suffered atrocities at the hands of the nazis. Artur, I consider a friend. If something comes from him I will accept it with minimal questioning for clarification purposes.
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #111

"If I said something to this effect, it was misconstrued and for that I ask forgiveness of the nice kind Polish folk on this board. When I posted that I intended to say that all races are equally doing poorly in all subject areas in the USA. Anyway I'm not trying to white wash my errors. I'm only human, prone to mistakes. I'm sorry for this. I equally love the good in all races and despise the evil in all races."

Don't twist it around now you know what you said. A few looks at your posts over time and the admins will find you are very much anti-white. But nobody is begging you to stay :)
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #112

Hey, Artur. Why do you suggest that there's a 'nice white Pwoer' (sic) website there for me? Please explain what do you mean. By the way, are you happy with Joseducipo and other racist psychos insulting Polish people on this website? Are you at all Polish?

From what I can gather from your posts, you think whites are better than everyone. Take your feelings to someone who'll listen, not those who'll get annoyed (nobody wants to hear racism)

Jose's a good guy. I never saw him post anything racist against Poles. The "Dumb as Beans" thing you are probably reffering to was just an honest observation he made about what Peurto Ricans thought about whites.

And yes, I am 100% Polish. Why?
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #113

"I have never insulted any Polish people. I can only feel solidarity for a group of people who have also suffered atrocities at the hands of the nazis."

Puerto riccans have suffered nothing from nazi germany.

"The "Dumb as Beans" thing you are probably reffering to was just an honest observation he made about what Peurto Ricans thought about whites."

Don't twist things around. I find it odd how you claim to be polish but make excuses for racist posts by non-white users. But say nothing in defense to anyone else.
larry casula 2 | 69    
21 Mar 2007  #114

Yes Jose,

They were, But we didn't do it!! Back in Afica, the most insane thing is that they were sold into slavery by thier own kind!!!! So it was thier own kind that ripped them apart, please dont fall prey to the phsyco-babble that you read on blogs or the internet, or on some far left station, my goodness Slavery here in America is OVER!! Lincoln SET THEM FREE!!! They are free!!!

Look Eveil is in mans nature...
Did you ever wonder why we need to teach our kids to behave??? Are you Religiously sffiliated with any relligion??
Man was born inheritely evil, the bible says our righteouness is as filty rags, so what do you expect from man? Where good men stay silent evil thrives!!

So this is nothing new, evil has been here a long time and will be here til the end.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089    
21 Mar 2007  #115

Well, if 'Admin' should not let in racists, he should not let in Josecipo the phony 'Latino' in the first place, because of Josecipo's vicious racist Polonophobia. I wonder why racist psychopathic human crap like Josecipo keeps on pouring into Polish websites?
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #116

Don't twist things around. I find it odd how you claim to be polish but make excuses for racist posts by non-white users. But say nothing in defense to anyone else.

I hold nothing against anyone. i just post my opnions and make arguements. You do the same.

So all Poles are supposed to be white-supremecists?
josecitomadera    
21 Mar 2007  #117

A few looks at your posts over time and the admins will find you are very much anti-white. But nobody is begging you to stay

I said I was sorry if anything I said was taken as anti-white. I obviously have white Spanish blood or you are going to deny this also. But the fact is proven. Blacks suffered at the hands of white European slave masters. Are you denying this fact also? You aren't one of those Holocaust revisionists are you?
ArturSzastak 3 | 593    
21 Mar 2007  #118

because of Josecipo's vicious racist Polonophobia.

If he's vicious your the hanibal lecter of racism. You take it to a new level :)
Sedzia    
21 Mar 2007  #119

"So all Poles are supposed to be white-supremecists?"

No and who here is calling themselves white supremecists? Most if not all thing posted are facts. If you can prove otherwise then do so. If not don't judge.

"Blacks suffered at the hands of white European slave masters"

Ever read about the jewish slave trade? Or how africans have been slaves from there own people before the americas? It wasn't just europeans.
larry casula 2 | 69    
21 Mar 2007  #120

Touche Sedzia!!!

It all started with black on black!!! you never hear about that!!! because it would not sell papers




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