Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks.

I want to say Silesia and Wroclaw, but any time I tell them about it over there they get really mad at me.... lol

All Germans are part of Slav as they took or occupied lands inhabited by Slavs they have mixed.

Indeed, genetic tests have shown that Poles truly are a Slavic nation, I mean there is some germanic blood but not enough to make a plausible argument.

The "Germans" I've met lived mainly in Danzig and Nikolaiken.

Nope Marek, Slavs were latecomers and invaded germanic lands.

Google the map of Ptolemy...germanic towns and settlements where now is Poland already 2000 years back.
The migration of Slavs into central Europe didn't start before the 6th century AD.

Google is your friend!

google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&biw=804&bih=423&q=Ptolemy+Magna+Germania&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

This is all in another thread. I feel sure that the OP is talking about Modern History.

Here's the distribution of the R1a haplogroup which is common in Slavic populations.

You mean, the red is all Slavs? Actually it can't be because Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are definitely not Slavic.

It isn't...the biggest red part shows a distribution of R1a of only 47%, meaning less than the half are (pure) slavic. Even ethnically cleansed Poland "only" get's 51%

The same with the germanic R1b, the percentuage differs but especially in central Europe we are incredible mixed! No wonder with our history :)

as I said before

No, you said the Germanics were the intruders, the invaders...but it's the other way around. We were here first!

Just saying...

Germans where the intruders that is correct statement, you were first to grab for swords also correct.

Stop lying!
You people did ride on the "mean, agressive Germanics agains poor, sweet, innocent Slavs" myth for far to long already!

We have proof that Germanics settled first as far as 2000 years back in what is now Poland.
There is even a map about it. Look for Ptolemy's Magna Germania map as I advised you before.
Slavs invaded these lands not before the 6th century, half a millennia later.

It isn't that hard....

spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,720513,00.html

Magna Germania 2000 years back:

Slavs invading from the East...

German propaganda?

Sure...even Ptolemy worked for the German propaganda ministry already back in 200 AD....suuure!

/wiki/Ptolemy


An Roman with egyptian heritage...the poster model of an propagandist for Germans!!!

You'd be surprised how many Greek Slavs there are.

Yet according to the latest DNA distribution study it looks like Slavs were there already. Take a look at Estimated Y-DNA distribution 2000 years ago throughout Europe.



Face it Germans are mutts as this map clearly proves.

Link is broken here's another one. eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml

Heh:)
"estimated" being the key word! Your source being just another forum poster:


Yeah...how scientifical...maybe I should go and make a funny map myself and post it!

PS: We are all mutts here in central Europe...and there is nothing wrong with being european mutts.
But still historical facts shouldn't be denied or falsified..germanic tribes were here first, period!
(okay...second...after the Celts)

It is, i have at least 7 or 8 friends who are partially German, some look very German, the Teutonic type ;) . But the east has been a place for German settlements for centuries.

2 Millennia actually...

Says you and Nazi pseudoscience, newest findings tell a different story period. Move on no need to buy into 70 year old propaganda made up to make the Germans feel better about themselves.

Just google you idiot nutter.
That is mainstream history....to bad if you are to stupid to read and process facts.

Ptolemy's map is 1800 years old! What a Nazi he has been!!!
(There must be an old drawing/statue of him with an SS uniform making the Hitler greeting...)

Notice that even on that map "Magna Germania" is west of Elbe river.

Look where the Slavs are 2000 years back...still much further East!
Slavic "Drang nach Westen" anybody!

Exactly everything east of Oder River was Sarmatia and mutts in between. Historically speaking Elbe was always a dividing line even during the reign of Charlemagne, although his realm extended further east.

I'm not sure what you are seeing but I see here the natural border of the Vistula between Magna Germania and Sarmatia...

And as far as I remember even Charlemagnes Empire didn't go anymore as far as the Vistula, having been pushed much farther west!

What can I say; perhaps you need glasses. Where's Oder River then?

Just look right and above on the map where the border is...it's clearly mapped as the Vistula!


Probably there where it always has been! ;)

Oder is the one that springs from the Sudeti Mountains...oops, that'd be the Elbe...

Part German, Karol Strasburger actor, and Janusz Reiter former ambasador

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Once again Where's Oder River then? Did they miss it somehow?
You ever seen an island in the Baltic Sea above Vistula River? Perhaps it’s lost island of Atlantis, don’t tell me its Gottland, part of present day Sweden would also be visible if that was the case besides have you noticed how the land slops upward. That’s clearly by Szczecin.