USA, Canada / Polish and American people: the difference [20]


- Actually, Americans drink a lot, and use incomparably more drugs (i.e. narcotics) than us.

USA, Canada / Polish and American people: the difference [20]

I find only differences, and they seem to be getting bigger and bigger. We really don't seem to have anything in common, perhaps with the exception of the fact that, most regrettably, some of our soldiers are also taking part in the genocidal and criminal occupation of Iraq.

Life / Rafal Wojaczek Poetry [4]


- 'A forbidden poet'? Do you actually mean the Polish expression 'poeta przeklety' (condemned poet)? - He seems to be a much ignored poet, especially by fellow poets. If my memory serves me right, Milosz doesn't mention him at all in his (bad) history of Polish literature. Baranczak has written unfavourably about Wojaczek in his book on the Polish poetry in the 60s/70s. Both Milosz and Baranczak are incomparably worse poets than Wojaczek. Do they 'condemn' him out of envy?

Yes, I have read 'Rape' (Gwalt). I've met women who thought that in his poems written from the viewpoint of a woman, Wojaczek shows an immense intimate knowledge of female psyche.


- Are you going to mention the current in Polish poetry called 'turpizm' (e.g. Grochowiak)?

One of the most beautiful poems about ugliness is, ahem, Wyspianski's 'Wiosna' (The Spring). It begins with: 'Swiat - gnoj' (The world - muck). Do you happen to know the piece?

:)


- I might visit the museum one day. I haven't seen the film yet. I know a bit about Wojaczek from people who knew him personally.

Oh, Wyspianska. Also, an excellent poem about ugliness is Baudelaire's The Carcass (Une Charogne; in Polish: Padlina). There's a fine Polish translation in the volume of Baudelaire's poetry published, during communism, in a series called in Polish the 'celofanowa seria.' I forgot the name of the translator. Miedzyrzecki perhaps, or Jastrun? Also, some of Rimbaud's poems may be pertinent, notably 'L’Orgie parisienne

ou Paris se repeuple' (translated, brillantly, by Tuwim, as 'Paryz sie budzi;' Tuwim translated a few of Rimbaud's pieces; you might want to check out the one titled 'Zasiedziali'). Also, some of Tuwim's poems may be useful, e.g. the series about barbers ('Fryzjerzy').

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]


- Hold your horses, man. I have never said you are one of those guys. It's you who are assuming I have. Read my statement again, coolheadedly. And it's you who have ascribed paranoia to me - which actually is offensive, the more so as you can't back it up with any proof.


- I don't give a hoot whether you don't give a hoot what I think about you, nor have I given any rational reason for your assuming that I want you to kiss my frances.

If I were nasty, I'd say something else about it....

Cool down, mate.
;)
My best regards to your daughter. She's a lovely Polish girl.

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]


- What 'paranoia'? Please, give any evidence of it (if you can).


- But have I thought so? Aren't you a little paranoid in anticipating I might?


- Yeah, right.
:)

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]


- I know, brother, that in Ireland we're being treated OK (I mean Ireland proper, because in Northern Ireland, I hear, it's not always so hunky-dory). I don't have anything against the Irish people; on the contrary, the better I get to know them, the more I respect and like them.


- Fine, but if foreigners grab better jobs and the natives are denied them, what impact would it have on mutual relations? Wouldn't it be worse than making Polish an official language in Ireland?


- Hm, the fact that one's daughter wears a Polish folk stuff doesn't necessarily mean her father must be a Polonophile. I've met tons of folks born in Poland, or saying they're Polish, who were as Polonophobic as the Nazis. People hating their own country and countrymen are found in any nation. I hope my honesty doesn't offend you?

News / British moved to POLAND on BBC tonight [74]

Now, I have to admit I skipped - just for the sake of not being upset - watching Palin's film. I was afraid it might be another piece of Polonophobic propaganda that the 'main' BBC has been carrying on for ages. The usual nasty ridicule, the usual portrayal of Poland as the Fourth World Country, the Stone Age villages, the vodka-gulping 'peasants' in silly folk attires, the inevitable visit to Auschwitz, and the like.

Was it so? Tell me.

One of the popular - positive - media personalities in Poland is a Polonised English guy, Kevin the firefighter, one of the stars of the TV show 'Europa da sie lubic' (Europe Is Likeable).

I love him too.

Hmmm, some time ago, I hear, the hacks caught him drunk and urinating in public in Sopot.... Do you know anything about it, Bubba?
;)

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]

Ah, so z-darius comes from Canada? I hope that, unlike many folks living there, he doesn't have a negative attitude towards the Poles and Poland?

I have just read 'Zeze's' profile (he's the author of the first post). In the field 'Speak Polish,' his reply is: 'Hell no.'

Nice.

Mind you: this guy says he lives in Poland....

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]


- Greg, better if we had the jobs in Poland. Better if we moved back to Poland from UK and Ireland, especially from UK, where unbelievably stupid beliefs and whining about us has reached its zenith. Why the hell should we sit in foreign lands, often be mercilessly ripped off there, treated as third class human beings (we're in the EU now!), and still be hated for our toil and our enriching the natives? F... it! Let's leave their beloved lands to the natives, and to those foreigners whom the natives prefer over us (Third World crowds).

:)
PS. I'm of the opinion that the good jobs in a given country should go to the natives of the country, not to foreigners.


- Well, so it follows that some hack believes (I'm not sure if it's not a joke) that Polish should be the third language in Ireland. But the author of the first post in the thread asserts that 'hundreds of thousands of Poles who have emigrated to Ireland' want Polish to be the third language of Ireland. Shouldn't he be called a liar?

UK, Ireland / Polish as Irelands Third Offical language? [123]


- The 'news' appears to me a piece of complete nonsense. I have travelled in Ireland, spoken to hundreds of Poles there, and none of them has ever said he wanted Polish to be an official language in Ireland. If any one conveyed the idea to them, I suspect they would think it a joke. The 'news' looks like an inflammatory and xenophobic lie, spread out in order to set people against the Poles. There are quite a few such lies around, especially in the UK. However, quite a few - virtually all - of you scribbling on this topic seem to believe the Poles working in Ireland want Polish to be the third language of the island. None of you have questioned the soundness of the statement. Not even szarlotka, whom I have thought an intelligent (and also compassionate) man. What has happened to you, szarlotka? Has the Polonophobic propaganda spread by the media psychopaths in UK affected you too? How can you believe such absurdities? When I think about your comments, folks, the title of Erasmus's famous book comes to mind - The Praise of Folly. Oughtn't you to be ashamed of yourselves?

:)

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


- Can you actually give any evidence to back your charges, mole? Any quotes, dates, and the like?


- Actually, why? And who would be the ones we Poles should feel embarassed towards? You?!

I don't know where you came from to Poland, but if you came from e.g. America, UK, or Israel, hm, it would be pretty hypocritical of you to complain about the alleged 'antisemitism' (what the hell is that?) 'antigayism' and what not of Radio Maryja, considering what real horrific hate propaganda against the Poles has been propagated by hacks-psychopaths in those countries.

Your post is proof you're part of the hate propaganda.
:)

UK, Ireland / POLISH RECRUITMENT AGENCIES IN LONDON??? [11]

Wow, and here the piggy muckal is pretending to be concerned about the eploitation of Polish agency workers! Oink, oink, pig. What else will the hog make up in its made-of-muck brain?

:)

Life / Why are the Poles picked on there is no reason to do this to them [108]

re: why are the poles picked on there is no reason to do this to them

- Amirah, in Europe it's a bit different, but in America there is the tribe of piggies that have been besmirchng us Poles for over a century. I do not mean here Americans, let alone decent Americans like yourself. It's just the tribe repeating hateful messages in this or that form, and fooling Americans, and making many of them Polonophobic. The piggies have their reasons for doing this. As I said, in Europe it's a bit different (but not very different); the piggies generally try not to be as vulgar as they are in America; they hide this vulgar side from the Europeans (for the sake of their own piggies' image).

Lots more can be said about all this.

:)

UK, Ireland / Young Polish Man living in Ireland dies from injuries sustained in brawl [29]


- The 'distinction' comes from the press report I have read. Should I write 'Polish hooligans' if I don't know if they are such?

And you, who have indicated the death of the young man is of no importance, have the temerity to complain about bias?


- How can nationalism cause wars? I fancy. :)


- Really? How specifically do we allegedly 'disregard' others because of our attachment to our nationality, language, color [sic], etc.?


- 'Level-headed,' 'debating intelligently'? You mean 'jareck' possesses these characteristics? :)

Oh, Daisy, how overly kind you seem to be at times.

This forum is dying, but not because there's lack of folks like 'jareck' on it. It's dying because real Polish people - like me - are not allowed to express themselves freely on it. What stupid and perverse censorship takes place on this forum! On the other hand, human pigs like 'Muckal' are allowed to heap hateful Polonophobic insults freely, with impunity, and when I reply in kind, I am rebuked for 'name calling.' You know, one who respects oneself doesn't talk with pigs as one does with human beings.

I was suspended once for using the perfectly innocent (and beautiful old English word) 'wench.' Only because some psycho from Canada demanded that.

And recently I have been warned by Admin not to use the word 'creature' on this forum! Again, it seems, because another psycho - this time of 'colour' and from UK - demanded that.

Anyhow, this is all off the topic; perhaps somebody could open up a thread where folks could say what they think about the forum? I can participate in the debate (provided I'm not suspended or kicked out earlier).

Love and respect to you from me, Daisy, gentle English flower.

UK, Ireland / Young Polish Man living in Ireland dies from injuries sustained in brawl [29]

Mateusz was beaten up in late September and stayed in the hospital since. I'd appreciate any further info on the case. I have nothing against the Irish people; I just would like to get to the truth about the case.

Thank you, Daisy.


- Nothing for you to take interest in.

News / Racist attack against Poles via Polish language [30]

re: copy & pasting articles is not allowed

- Why not? Oh boy.

re: Name calling IS prohibited

- Defending the Polonophobic racist thing calling itself 'Michal'? I can see it has more rights on this - Polish, hehehe! - forum than e.g. myself. Why don't you kick me out of here, bigot? The more so as I've just posted a bit on killing of a Pole in Ireland. It should not be to your taste, bigot.

:)

UK, Ireland / Young Polish Man living in Ireland dies from injuries sustained in brawl [29]

The Irish police seem to blame two Poles for the beating. Polish guest workers I've spoken to say Mateusz was beaten up by Irish hooligans.

Life / My neighbours in Poland are stealing all my things [180]


- And now the Orwellian although non-British oinker pretending to be a-patriotic- Polonophobic-Englishman plays an expert on putting fences, planting trees and travelling by train in Poland!

Oi! What further excretise should be splashed out of the deep guano where the oinker lieth?
:)


- It can be also seen this way: if the thing travelled in Poland and yet it remains alive, then the Polish people must be angels.

:)

re: the clown calling itself perversely 'polonia' ('polonophobia' would be more proper).

Another of the piggy tribe?

The usual use of pseudo-psychoanalysis seems to be one of the proofs of it.

I am tempted to ask the creature where in Poland he has seen villages whose inhabitants are ignorant of Harleys, let him give the name of even one such village, but I shall abstain, because the answer can only be the usual oink-oink, perthaps with some irate freudy gruntings.

:)

UK, Ireland / Polish woman shot in London. [57]


- Greg, you're a good honest guy. I knew it right from the beginning.


- You mean it's more honourable to wipe one's lonely ass 'over here' for free?
;)

News / Poland biggest problem [125]


- Does randumpal, really?

Let's ask him to divulge the alleged 'source.'

Let's see if randumpal isn't lying and bragging again.

... I wonder if he'll insist now that when he bragged he knew the alleged 'credible source' it was merely 'playful sarcasm' on his part?

:)

UK, Ireland / Polish woman shot in London. [57]


- Dear me, wherein?

Have you learned debating from the creature to the left of your post (raf, raf back)?

Or perhaps the thing is your own venerealable likeness?

I suggest you apologise to the fine decent English men and women - friends of Poland - on this forum, such as Szarlotka, Bubba, Daisy.

But to be able to do so one must certainly possess at least a spark of human decency, and of intelligence too.
:)


- Then again, maybe it won't?

Personally, I expect it won't.

Throughout our screwed-up painful history we've stood up to tougher adversaries.

PS. How do you do, espana, dear amigo? ;)

UK, Ireland / Polish woman shot in London. [57]


- I absolutely agree. I'd even say wait and see if the gunmen were British or European. Secondly, we've got to see if the crime was motivated by hate towards Poles (I doubt it, also in the other aforementioned case of the young girl murdered in Leeds).

It's interesting that if stuff like that happens in UK right away the English are being blamed.


- That's one of the stupidest remarks I've ever encountered on this forum. It's no better than the worst Polonophobic utterances. You know crap about the English, Greg. So, with all the respect for your hurt national feelings, you better shut up and learn something.

UK, Ireland / Polish woman shot in London. [57]


- 'Multiculturalism,' brother. Compare Canada. Before the huge non-European immigration wave that started in early 1990s and is still going, there weren't known and heard of in Canadian cities gory gang fights, drug traffik, drive-by shootings, massive credit card fraud, etc. pleasantries.

PS. More of you Brits (and also some good Canadians, such as Shawn) should move over to Poland. In spite of frequent poverty, Poland is relatively normal - yet.

UK, Ireland / Polish woman shot in London. [57]

And a bit earlier, Polish 14-year-old girl raped and murdered in Leeds.

News / Jan Barszczewski came to Russia 2 days ago!!! Receive him in Poland!!! [8]

Truhlei, I have read the book, and posted a comment in Polish: 'To jest urocze! - Rosyjski przyjaciel slusznie sugeruje pokrewienstwa z Gogolem (przypuszczalnie majac na mysli 'Wieczory na futorze kolo Dikanki'). Dziekuje za udostepnienie na internecie. Wsiewo charoszewo, Truhlei. :)'

Barszczewski writes in the tradition of a literary form that is called in Poland 'gaweda szlachecka' (noble yarn). The greatest perhaps of such narrators is Jan Chryzostom Pasek, a 17th century author of memoirs. He greatly influenced Henryk Sienkiewicz's style in The Trilogy (By Fire and Sword, Deluge, Pan Wolodyjowski). If I remember it right, expert on Joseph Conrad, Zbigniew Najder, thinks (correctly, it seems) that Conrad's own style of writing - vivid, broad, full of digressions - springs from the tradition of Polish noble yarns. (Conrad was born in Berdyczew, not that far from Barszczewski). Have you read any of Conrad's Polish stories, notably 'Prince Roman'?

It seems to me Gogol's style shows unmistakably the considerable influence of the gaweda szlachecka tradition, especially visibly in 'The Evenings on the Farm Near Dikanka.'

Life / Polish Hooligans [41]


- It's not my intention. Just my debating style, perhaps. I just question a lot, including my own thinking.

Thanks too, Amirah.
:)

Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]


- I think the Vancouver Sun or the Province, sometime last year (or earlier?), informed about Mandarin being first, Punjabi second (and English third) in Vancouver.

2001 was a long time ago - 6 years. Experience shows things can change dramatically even in a shorter period.

Does English under 'Languages spoken' include people of non-British origin, e.g. bilingual ones?