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Opinions about Radio Maryja


anglicy  
19 Sep 2007 /  #1
i learned about this radio station based in toruń, does anyone have any opinions about what this station is really about ? i hear that it broadcasts religious programmers but i hear as well they have antisemitism broadcasts as well . i was told that it is run by a priest called rydzyk

does anyone have more information and views on this?
truhlei 10 | 332  
19 Sep 2007 /  #2
I shall unite to Anglicy asking about Radio Maria.
ukpolska  
19 Sep 2007 /  #3
Wouldn't waste my time posting about this crappy radio station *done* Grrrrrrr
Firestorm 6 | 400  
19 Sep 2007 /  #4
But you just did. lol
ukpolska  
19 Sep 2007 /  #5
So I did, dam dam dam, gota stop doing that :O)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
19 Sep 2007 /  #6
Crap. I'm not a fan of Rydzyk but you can find more fundamentalistic Protestant radio stations and TV shows in America or Islamic even in Europe and that's OK but somehow RM becomes almost a global issue, which only makes this guy famous.
sledz 23 | 2,250  
19 Sep 2007 /  #7
Theres a building in Chicago and on the side of it has a picture of a religous figure

and with big letters it says Radio Maryja

I always wondered what it was about

I drive past it sometimes, dont think I`ll be tuning in
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
19 Sep 2007 /  #8
and with big letters it says Radio Maryja

Rydzyk is watching you...
sledz 23 | 2,250  
19 Sep 2007 /  #9
LOL... Rydzyk must have alot of money that building I see is on a nice chunk

of property
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
19 Sep 2007 /  #10
according to Wprost, Rydzyk is ranked 80th on the list of most wealthy Poles, that's what I heard, I didn't check their ranking, so this "information" is by no means accurate, it's a hear-say
Klamka  
19 Sep 2007 /  #11
oh, he has a lot of money. you know, elderly ladies sure can be generous.

and there he goes brainwashing new generations in his school
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
19 Sep 2007 /  #12
Ukpolska, they say in Poland: if you say A you outta say B. So why would the Radio Maryja be 'crappy'? Please, give some facts, evidence. Thanks in advance.

Krzysztof, Wprost is a neo-commie tabloid, owned by Mr Krol - a former high-ranking commie official (member of the Central Committee of the Polish United Workers' Party). He and psychopaths helping him run his horrible Polonophobic rag have been caught lying their conks off countless times. Father Rydzyk is a monk who owns nothing apart from his robe and rosary. Now you prove that he is a wealthy man.

re and there he goes brainwashing new generations in his school

- Well, any evidence of this alleged 'brainwashing'? And to begin with, any evidence of Father Rydzyk owning a school?!

How about if it's you who have been branwashed against Radio Maryja and Father Rydzyk by horrible rags, such as Wprost and Gazeta Wyborcza?

:)

re: Rydzyk is watching you...

- What do you mean by that, Greg? Shouldn't the slogan rather go: Michnik et consortes are watching you?
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
19 Sep 2007 /  #13
Now you prove that he is a wealthy man.

this "information" is by no means accurate, it's a hear-say

do I really have to prove anything, I said clearly that my statement may be inaccurate, as I don't read Wprost (I heard it on TV or read in some newspaper, but can't remember what paper it was), and even if I read Wprost, there would be no way for me to check someone's income/funds owned
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
19 Sep 2007 /  #14
re: i hear as well they have antisemitism broadcasts as well

- Who do you hear this from? And what is actually meant by 'antisemitic'? Any examples of those 'antisemitic broadcasts,' or as usual just some vague general accusatory statements?

By the way, I am of the firm opinion that the Jewish Polonophobia is million times nastier than the Polish Jewphobia. So even if Radio Maryja has broadcast anything not to the Jewish and Jew-phile taste (but what on earth would that be?), it must be nothing compared to the constant Polonophobic hate propaganda on the part of many Jews. The evidence of this Jewish Polonophobia can be found in abundance e.g. on the internet. But I bet that 'anglicy' doesn't go to a Jewish website and inquire about it. Right?

:)

re: you know, elderly ladies sure can be generous

- Any one has the right to do with his or her money what he or she pleases. As one Polish girl working in England (on a menial job) has put it: I can shove what I earn right into the gutter if I want to.

Do those 'elderly ladies' you speak of so condescendingly poke their noses into what you do with your dough (provided you've got any)?

re: do I really have to prove anything

- You'd better, if you want to be taken seriously, mate.

Oh God, what kind of education is prevalent in schools nowadays? No training in Socratic thinking, dialectics; no responsibility for one's statements, no ability straightaway to give evidence one's statements are based on, no ethics of critical thnking. In fact, no critical thinking; no questioning. But that's what kind of folks the global-economy psycho-elites need: ignortant masses with totally malleable minds.

:)
Krzysztof 2 | 973  
19 Sep 2007 /  #15
Socratic thinking when talking to Puzzler - check!
misiek  
19 Sep 2007 /  #16
Most critical opinions about this radio comes from people who doesnt listen to it.
Especially young people, who think they have their own mind, and of course following the modern developement - doesnt belive in anything.

Radio Maryja , I think thats the only place in the Europe where you can call and say straight away what you think about this or that, where in western world many people say the same but only among small well known groups after few beers. Level of political correctness is just terrifyng, pushing our thoughts somewhere behind daily, smily mask :)
Klamka  
19 Sep 2007 /  #17
Well, any evidence of this alleged 'brainwashing'? And to begin with, any evidence of Father Rydzyk owning a school?!

And what about the tapes? About president's wife.
(Obviously I'm just a brainwashed by evil Wyborcza and TVN kid.)

Any one has the right to do with his or her money what he or she pleases.

Of course they do. They can even pay for building a big and tasteless sanctuary in the exact middle of Poland (I mean Licheń. It is tasteless.) And, correct me if I'm wrong, I have the right to say/write what I think about it. Am I being offensive? Oh, those ladies do poke noses into other things. E. g. what I wear, wether I live with a boy or a girl, wether I have sex before marriage, what I listen to.

I never said it's a bad thing they believe in their God. They say it's bad I don't believe in him.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
19 Sep 2007 /  #19
re: And what about the tapes? About president's wife.

- What about them? So the mysterious tapes would be evidence of Radio Maryja's alleged brainwashing (of whom? President's wife possibly?) and of Father Rydzyk's owning a school? :)

re: Obviously I'm just a brainwashed by evil Wyborcza and TVN kid.

- If you say so... :)

re: They can even pay for building a big and tasteless sanctuary in the exact middle of Poland (I mean Licheń. It is tasteless.)

- Yes, they can. Why would it be 'tasteless'? Personally, I don't see it as tasteless, nor do millions of other Poles.

But yes, the types from the neo-communist Gazeta Wyborcza and TVN (private TV owned by ex-communist propagandist Walter) seem to share your distaste for the Lichen temple....

re: I have the right to say/write what I think about it.

- Alas, you do. Many human beings are being taught how to read and write, but in some cases it's not sure why.

re: Am I being offensive?

- Oh, bagatelle! You've perhaps only hurt feelings of the most unimportant people on earth - Christians.

re: Oh, those ladies do poke noses into other things. E. g. what I wear, wether I live with a boy or a girl, wether I have sex before marriage, what I listen to.

- Oh, are they really set so much against the poor Klamka? Klamka- the victim of Radio Maryja elderly female supporters?
:)

re: Socratic thinking when talking to Puzzler - check!

- And what do you mean by that?
Ranj 21 | 948  
19 Sep 2007 /  #20
think thats the only place in the Europe where you can call and say straight away what you think about this or that

One of the reasons the Vatican does not sanction it, because they are political when what they should be is more concerned with spreading the word of the lord.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
19 Sep 2007 /  #21
re: One of the reasons the Vatican does not sanction it

- In reality, Ranj, the Vatican, that is the present (German) Pope (greatly venerated in Poland, by the way) has found nothing wrong with Radio Maryja, and so has the Polish Episcopate.

It's the commiefascist media in Poland and their buddies in other European countries, notably in Italy and Germany, who adamantly and noisily don't 'sanction' Radio Maryja. Now tell me how's that that e.g. the commiefascist Republicca in Italy scribbles exactly the same dirty stuff about the Radio as does the commiefascist Gazeta Wyborcza in Poland? Are they some relatives, perhaps of the same ethnicity? Isn't it interesting?

:)
Ranj 21 | 948  
19 Sep 2007 /  #22
the Vatican, that is the present (German) Pope (greatly venerated in Poland, by the way) has found nothing wrong with Radio Maryja, and so has the Polish Episcopate.

Very misleading, Puzzly.....in fact the controversy surrounding RM has split the Polish Episcopate.....some support and some don't. Also, it was JP II (Poland's Pope) who although initially supported RM, became very disconcerted with the fact that they were spewing more Politics than the word of God.
Gary Busey - | 51  
19 Sep 2007 /  #23
Good points, Puzzler and Misiek. It's good to see that there are still people in Europe who aren't fooled by communist and socialist propaganda against the Church and the Polish nation. I don't speak Polish, and cannot judge the supposed "antisemitic" content of Radio Maryja directly, but I am very skeptical about reports in the junk-media that allege this.

I must agree with Puzzler that the Polonophobia coming from some elements of the Jewish community--while never recognized or pointed out in the media as such--is at least as great, if not greater, than the possible anti-Jewish sentiment on the part of some Poles.

My gut-feeling regarding the "Radio Maryja controversy" is this:

The radio station is a legitimate and courageous hold-out of the REAL Catholic church in Poland, and Father Rydzyk has more character and bravery than most priests for standing up for traditional culture--against the New World Order, Amerika-kultur, E.U.S.S.R. or whatever you want to name it.

The anti-national and anti-religious leadership of the E.U., as represented by the WProst and other papers, are against the Catholic church and especially Radio Maryja because it represents an alternative to their purely secular, socialist, and materialist vision of the future. Radio Maryja represents one of the last vestiges of true Polish identity--both religious and national--and the new E.U. elites do NOT believe in religions or nations. (In this respect they are Polonophobic.)
Ranj 21 | 948  
19 Sep 2007 /  #24
Radio Maryja , I think thats the only place in the Europe where you can call and say straight away what you think about this or that

The only problem with this is that it's under the guise of being a religious program when in actuality it's a political forum with a religious edge.
ukpolska  
20 Sep 2007 /  #25
Ukpolska, they say in Poland: if you say A you outta say B. So why would the Radio Maryja be 'crappy'? Please, give some facts, evidence. Thanks in advance.

Will a retired priest do for you along with many of his friends who were sickened by the lavish way that Rydzyk and his followers live their life's, ("please prove otherwise")

In fact, no critical thinking; no questioning.

What like "the army of mohair berets" (Polish: armia moherowych beretów)

Socratic thinking when talking to Puzzler - check!

lol

- Yes, they can. Why would it be 'tasteless'? Personally, I don't see it as tasteless, nor do millions of other Poles.

millions Hmmm, bit overdone here wouldnt you say!!!

The radio station is a legitimate and courageous hold-out of the REAL Catholic church in Poland, and Father Rydzyk has more character and bravery than most priests for standing up for traditional culture--against the New World Order, Amerika-kultur, E.U.S.S.R. or whatever you want to name it.

Oh my god!!! you need treament.
Puzzler I will tell you why it is crappy, because it has twisted values sucking off the poor and uneducated (the army of mohair berets" (Polish: armia moherowych beretów)) while that turd Tadeusz Rydzyk has a life of luxury. This primarily is a business and its role in Politics sickens me and many “normal” poles.

My wife’s uncle was a priest here in Puławy and unfortunately he passed away last year and he was strictly opposed to that turd Rydzyk, because he believed in the church being here for to support people and not to brainwash them into voting for a politically party.

Puzzler like your name I ‘m puzzled as to why you ask for facts but then don’t produce them yourself? I am not religious myself but I respect people who are religious and are slightly jealous that they can have so much blind faith in something; but I do not respect fanaticism of any kind, especially when it takes advantage and manipulates people.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
20 Sep 2007 /  #26
re: that turd Tadeusz Rydzyk has a life of luxury...

- Prove that.

What 'retired priest' do you mean? Put him on the table. Now what would you like ME to prove, my good man?

re: I am not religious myself but I respect people who are religious

- Lol! Just read the previous quote (your own words, btw). Vulgar and, I suspect, cowardly you are as regards others' religious feelings.
Klamka  
20 Sep 2007 /  #27
Sorry it's in Polish...

tvn24.pl/12690,1520881,wiadomosc.html
media.wp.pl/kat,36682,wid,8111119,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=147f1

He does have a school. (But you're just going to say it doesn't count - it's The Evil TVN!)

Many human beings are being taught how to read and write, but in some cases it's not sure why.

You know, I haven't read something this narrow-minded in a very long time. Of course, you can write for a reason! You have to show us the Real Truth. Good luck trying.

Personally, I don't see it as tasteless, nor do millions of other Poles

If you do not, I guess I don't have a choice. It cannot be tasteless! And I know you met all those millions and talked to them in person. How else could you speak for them? I've just spoken to about thirty and haven't found anyone who likes it. (Unlike you, I don't tell people they should think other way if they don't agree with me.)

You've perhaps only hurt feelings of the most unimportant people on earth - Christians.

And how exactly have I hurt them? All the Christians? Cause there are some who don't listen to RM and don't like Licheń. But if I hurt them by not being one of them, I'm not going to apologize. (Also, I don't think I've hurt any of those ladies (and gentelmen) who listen to RM. How do you think I've hurt them?)

Klamka- the victim of Radio Maryja elderly female supporters?

You know, you're being offensive all the time. To all the people who read Wyborcza. We have feelings (yeah, they should have taken them away together with our minds, those vicked masons and jewish communists. Oh, how progerman they are! They want to destroy our country! Oh no! I'm thinking the truth! Now they're gonna take me to the ministry of love!)

You just seem like a type, who knows what is right (and hates everyone who doesn't agree), dear Puzzler. Now you'll say I'm a coward. I think any further discussion is pointless. I really don't like to be offended by narrowminded people (never said it's you ^^) who demand facts and respond with their emotions. Not pleasant emotions.

Bye.
Crow 148 | 9,393  
20 Sep 2007 /  #28
I don`t know how it affects other countries but, I can confirm that in Serbia this radio is popular among older population and not only among Catholics but also is accepted from some number of Orthodox, Greek-Catholic and Protestant believers (also older population).
ukpolska  
20 Sep 2007 /  #29
Klamka

I wouldn’t waste my breath on him, the guys got something wrong in his head, if he cannot justify something he has to insult people, what makes me laugh is that he keeps saying prove it, prove it, and never offers any supporting evidence himself, “done and finished with this guy” lol
Klamka  
20 Sep 2007 /  #30
Yeah, I know that.

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