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Daisy  3 | 1211  
17 Jul 2007 /  #91
Maybe that's the way to get rid of adversity - talk to each other, even brutally and hatefully, let go the stuff inside?

a
Allelujah...we're making a break through ;)
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #92
PS. Yes, it was the Russans who predominantly commtted atrocities aganst the Russians. Why then you in today allegedly democratic Russia haven't even condemned those communist killers, let alone punshed them (if they are still alve)? Why one of them - a KGB creep - rules Russia and the majority of Russians back him singlemindedly?

Would you reply (as Russian natonalists seem to have done in the past) that the human mind is too limited to comprehend Russia?

Why don't you condemn and punish those creeps for their horrific crimes?

Daisy, my flower - its been always so wth Puzzler on this forum. Yet only shopgal seemed to understand my 'therapeutical' method. Im not sure if she still does, as it is kinda straining. But ultimately healing.

Cheers, my English hon.
;)
Daisy  3 | 1211  
17 Jul 2007 /  #93
my 'therapeutical' method

Have you eve read 'The Schopenhauer cure' by Irvin D Yalom?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #94
I have heard about it. Simlar to mine, the cure?

Schopenhauer was a butthead.
Daisy  3 | 1211  
17 Jul 2007 /  #95
I have heard about it. Simlar to mine, the cure?

Schopenhauer was a butthead.

yep, plenty of material for a psychoanylist..which is what Yalom's day job is
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #96
re: yep, plenty of material for a psychoanylist

- Would it mean that Puzzler is a bit of a butthead?

If yes, well, I wouldn't deny too fervently.
;)
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #97
If yes, well, I wouldn't deny too fervently.

Such a cutie when you want to be :)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #98
And personally, I shall never forgive you, Russki beastly murderers, for what you did to my family in 1939.

Ahh, it's your right, we don't care about this, but remember one thing, our hatred will be more sizzling
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #99
Shopgal, I'm writng something to you n the random chat (no abuse) thread - the continuation of this stuff here, not about Russia, but the 'therapy. As it is off topic here.
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #100
but remember one thing, our hatred will be more sizzling

That's really something to be proud of.......
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #101
Prosper better than the sons of their victims?

For example Dzerzhinskiy, though he was unique worthy Pole !!!
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #102
re: Ahh, it's your right, we don't care about this, but remember one thing, our hatred will be more sizzling

- We'll see. Things change; who was powerful and bullying becomes weak and trampled over by his former victims. That's what's going to happen to you, inevitably, if you're not very careful and nice to those whom you have wronged.

By the way, we're not really afraid of you, Russkies. We know you'll get yours yet. It's started, actually.
:)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #103
I know that in Russia there are some good noble people who, for instance, fight for truth about the Katyn genocide.

Dont be so self-centred, nobody in Russia even remember about this episode
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #104
nobody in Russia even remember about this episode

And everyone else does.......
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #105
re: And everyone else does

- Many of them also do - some in a positive, some others in a negative way.
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #106
Ha-ha-ha !!!! Stay in XIX cent my poor friend, we, russians are rise above the hate to poles or another nation. Hate is a fate of loosers.

That's really something to be proud of.......

No, it's just a verification!!!
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #107
No, it's just a verification!!!

But why do you need to feel this? Explain it to me? I really don't get it!!!!!!!
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #108
He invaded Poland with the Bolshevik hordes in 1920.

To sat "hordes" you must realize that Poland never was on the height of civilisation. And IMHO, when some poles talk about "russians are barbarians", you just want to cover up your own holes...
OP Atilla  1 | 10  
17 Jul 2007 /  #109
ont be so self-centred, nobody in Russia even remember about this episode

Even state authorities do. I was in the Tver region in Nilova Pustyn monastery where orthodox Church hierarchs sponsored a memorial for polish officers exterminated by Stalin.

P.S. We are so lucky in Russia: we don't have to hate someone else - those like Costya attract all negative fluids. I'll be damned!
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #110
Constantine....you just stated a contradiction:

Hate is a fate of loosers.

and then.... "our hatred will be more sizzling" wtf?
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #111
re: Dont be so self-centred

- What do you mean by 'self-centered'? You mean that your suffering is more important? If yes, well, your suffering is your own affair; it's you who inflicted it on yourselves during your 'revolution' and later. But the Katyn, among others, is what you inflicted on us. We're not you, you know?

Well, and as for us, we would gladly forget about Russia's existence. It is you, actually, who remind us about you, whenever we try to do something on our own. You seem to still think we are part of your 'country.' But it's over and all the stars seem to indicate that it's so for good.

Why don't you screw off from us and stay where and who you are? We don't need you and don't want to know anything about you. Why not otyebitsya? (I'm talking here about Russia and Russians, not about participation in this forum.)

:)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #112
But why do you need to feel this? Explain it to me? I really don't get it!!!!!!!

Feeling what? Hate? I dont feel it !!! I just want to say, that we like our Polish brothers with some sort of perverted feel of love.
traveler  1 | 8  
17 Jul 2007 /  #113
You should be put into prison for these words

No one should be punished for speaking their mind.
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #114
P.S. We are so lucky in Russia: we don't have to hate someone else - those like Costya attract all negative fluids. I'll be damned!

Well thank you for your statement, Atilla. I don't want to go away from here thinking Russians are hate filled, miserable human beings. The ones that have I personally met are warm, kind people!
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #115
re: To sat "hordes" you must realize

- Thats how they have been called frequently in the English language. Would you accuse the English of lack of civilisation? And actually yes, Poles are very civlised people, in spite of our very negative image fabricated, among others, by you, Russkies, abroad.

re: No one should be punished for speaking their mind

- Yes, I agree. I went over the top. Which is also my free speech right to do. I haven't put her into prison, actually. And never would.

Cheers.
;)

Shopgal, I agree that Attila deserves thanks.
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #116
Hate? I dont feel it !!!

So then, are you saving it for me....since I am American? :(
You know, since that is what you have been taught to do?
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #117
Why don't you screw off from us and stay where and who you are? We don't need you and don't want to know anything about you. Why not otyebitsya?

No! We cant !!! We are your neighbours, so you are obliged to reckon with us ! Yes, you have an independent state, but remember the fact that it was russia which reesteblished Polish state in 1945 !!!
Puzzler  9 | 1088  
17 Jul 2007 /  #118
re: I just want to say, that we like our Polish brothers with some sort of perverted feel of love

- I suspect we feel something similar towards you - but without the desire to rule you, ever. I think we would feel more comfortable with you than with the Germans (although I wish we were on better terms with them - don't know if it'll ever happen).
shopgirl  6 | 928  
17 Jul 2007 /  #119
it was russia which reesteblished Polish state in 1945 !!!

Clinging to Imperialist dreams CK? Now who is in the wrong century? :)
ConstantineK  26 | 1298  
17 Jul 2007 /  #120
and then.... "our hatred will be more sizzling" wtf?

There is no any contradictions at all, i say it only to recall that we are more powerful and have more resourses to pursue our goals, even it is hate

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