Working in Poland without speaking Polish

You can't be as tough as the guy who teaches the whole street. You'd have to be as tough as asphalt to teach asphalt :)

bullo*ks.... I dont speak any polish nor my mates from different countries- (Italy, Spain, Columbia, Mauritius, Holland...) 70% of us didn't even had any work experience in what we do now. But, we were still recruited by a top American company and believe me, we do earn a decent salary!


It is not. specially if you will be in Krakow. Many companies are looking for native European language speakers plus English- which you have. Although, you might panic that many of the 'recruitment officers, area managers' are crap with poor management skills as most of them have been studying in Polish universities which are not so good in Business admin or mgt; so might be you will feel sick sometimes if you have been working with British, American, Indian or German managers or something.

However, i can assure you that you will get something.

So they hired you into an IT role or other role where 70% of you didn't have any experience and paid you a very decent salary despite not speaking Polish?

What was the reason you were all chosen over other locals who speak Polish? Your native tongue language skills, eg English, Spanish, Dutch?
Because I don't understand why they'd pay more to foreigners otherwise.
In Wrocław or a small city/town?

I hope you don't take offense at my questioning -- none intended.


So these Polish people I meet in Wroc who have a uni degree but can't find any work other than in a shop or selling strawberries, just need to be more persistent, Poland's booming, right? Recession risks have evaporated, all's great, jobs galore? No need for Poles to emigrate to the UK, Germany, Eire etc? Is that what you're saying?


So it IS a specialised role, such as programming. Well, I'm talking about for the rest of us, who aren't computer nerd types ;o)

None taken. I am just telling you the truth mate. :) there might be some stuff you are unaware about....

It's really laughable how he is mentioning India next to countries like Germany, UK and USA and talking down on Poland at the same time ;-)

Working in Poland while speaking Polish is almost impossible and yet you want to find it without speaking Polish lol

There must be! I think I can guess what you might be driving at but then again I might be wrong, so I won't say, especially in case it causes any forum friction. ;o)

Thanks for the tip, if I'm reading between the lines correctly.


Well yes, that's what I have heard from Poles here, many of whom seem to have an education that puts mine to shame.
That said, Wrocław is absolutely buzzing right now, the malls are full to bursting. Tourists or after-work Poles, I know not. But jammed full like Xmas.

Mate, one thing International employers judge personality over academics, if you are a people person you will excel.

I think I can be a people person, I'm not everyone's cuppa of course, I get bad days as well as motivated and energetic, optimistic days. I've been encouraged by Local Fela and you to maybe take a look at the jobs market if need be in a few months and not write myself off too quickly. I'm honestly expecting nothing, so even a temp post of a month would be a bonus if it comes along.

From what you've been saying on here, you're earning a pretty crap salary by Polish standards.

If you say so... But I am pretty about it. I've been earning in GBP before you know, so I can compare what is 'decent' leaving. FYI, my polish colleagues think its a good pay we receive- so its not only me who is saying.


not a problem Wroc, if you want to get a clearer pic, let me know.


Because of the management skills and all that!

Indians are no where near to the Germany, UK, USA at the management skills, they are in fact even behind Polish, what kind of world you live in?

Wulkan, how are you measuring "management skills" and why do you contend India (singular in English!) lags far behind Germany, The States and Poland? On which criteria do you base your assertions?

ask local fela how he measured this

local fella, curious as to your standards for judging the management skills of those from India. From which country do your hail, by the way?

isn't it clear that he's from India? xDDD

It wasn't apparent to me at first, only that the person is clearly a foreigner.

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Hey

I live in Spain and i am civil engineer. I would like to go to Poland in summer for 2 or 3 months. I am wondering if I could get a job in a bar or a shop without speaking Polish. Is it possible to be hired only speaking English?

Thanks

You'd only have a chance at a Spanish restaurant, bar or cafe where your Spanish would be an asset. Most Polish students and graduates speak English. However give it a go you never know. You would have to front up to the place as it would be very hard to get work organised remotely.

Pretty much no chance. So improbable that it's not even worth the time thinking about. Make other plans instead of wasting your time with this.

Why would you say that? There are plenty of Irish Pubs hiring people that do not speak Polish.

There are gazillions of Poles who speak English just fine and would be willing to take those (precious few) jobs. And A LOT of them have experience as in bartending. What possible reason could anyone have to hire a Spaniard, of all things, to work in a pub in Poland?


Two dozen in the entire country. Three, tops. Four if you count all British puns in, too. You have a bizarre conception of "plenty".

Never been to an Irish Bar in Poland? You will find that the people who frequent those bars, particularly the ones who come for one weekend, would find it more interesting to talk to someone from abroad, just like they are. There is a good chance that they have been to Spain, stories can be exchanged which will pro-long their stay and increase the amount of piwo sold. Also, by employing a non local who only plans to stay for three months, you will most likely not run into an personnel related issues at the end of the 3 months term. If i was a pub landlord in Krakow, I would welcome someone who has no expectations after the three months high season.


Yes, plenty. Do you even know the Polish bar scene?

Btw. for quite a period of time, Irish Mbassy in Krakow had a Canadian girl as manager. According to your theory, there would have no chance at all of a foreigner with no or hardly any Polish even managing a bar.

There are a gazillion of them within walking distance. There are even scads of British and Irish slackers to choose from right on the doorstep. What possible reason would you have for hiring an apparently inexperienced Spaniard that is on the other side of the continent?

Get real. There is enormous competition for summer jobs in Poland. Advising the OP to come to Poland in search of summer employment is either plain stupid, or plain cruel. There are MUCH better opportunities elsewhere, and the OP would be wasting his time even thinking about Poland.

He has never said anything about his experience. Where do you get the "inexperienced" from?


I would not advise him to do it. But i would also not advise him not to do it. However, your statement -


- is simply incorrect.

Exactly. Which means, by default, that he has none. But even if he did, his chances of finding summer work in Poland would be exceedingly remote.


Nope. It's spot on. With precious few exceptions, and this is not even close to being one, anyone coming to Poland to find work ought to have their head examined. There is precious little to be had, wages are low for what few jobs exist, and there are MUCH better opportunities elsewhere. Poland is a country that exports unskilled labor, not the other way around.

That is nonsense. Just because he does not share his experience here on a public forum means he has none?

All of your last posts in this thread are based on assumptions.

Of course, silly boy. On the very, very safe assumption that the OP has little or nothing to offer on the Polish job market that doesn't exist there in overwhelming abundance already. The burden is on you to prove me wrong, not the other way around.

And yours seem to be based on lucky, but highly improbable, exceptional cases and on the extremely delusional belief that Poland as a whole resembles the tourist centers of Warsaw or Kraków. You could count the Irish bars outside of Warsaw and Kraków on one hand, two at the most and still have a plenty left over to pick your nose.

Bottom line still is that the OP is totally wasting his time even thinking about finding summer employment in Poland. It just ain't gonna happen.

Great way of leading a conversation.


I don't have to prove anything to you. You have given your opinion. I have given you mine. With the exception that I have actually given you some examples. Something you have failed to do. You have just assumed that the OP has no experience although he never mentioned anything about it.

In any case, it is clear that you prefer to paint a negative picture rather than look at reality. I have given you the example of the Canadian girl managing the Irish Mbassy in Krakow. You did not even acknowledge that example.

Anyway, after -


- Discussion over. Good Luck!

As a manager here in the States, I would simple NEVER hire someone who didn't speak English fluently, with as little intrusive first-language interference as humanly possible! Polish is a "hard" language??? Well, so is English. Therefore, JUST DEAL WITH IT!