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Questions regarding Job and salary? Junior accountant position in Poland.


Karl_Win 1 | 5
1 Jun 2012 #1
Hi guys,

My first post on this forum, so please don't bash on me too hard :-)

Anyways, I've been offered a a postion as Junior accountant in Krakow. I'm sure its not the most exiting job, but I love Poland so I'm willing to take this postion,

So I'm 21 years old, no previous full time job postion and my educational background is an economic Gymnasium.

Since I have no idea regarding the salaries in Poland (Krakow), I just want the oponion of someone who does before I accept this job.

Ill be giving 8500 Gross pr. month which I guess is equal to like 58-6000 net pr. month, right?

So I guess my question is, is it worth working for this salary in such kinda boring postion? And also in your opnion do you think I will benefit from having this work experince on my resume, if lets say I continue onto university and take a bachelor in Economics?

Thank you very much for your replies, its greatly appresiated.

Karl.
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
1 Jun 2012 #2
Hi Karl

Welcome. 6000zl net per month is about 4x the minimum wage so you should be ok. Why don't you take a couple of years out from education and gain so valuable 'life' experience.. The world is full of 22-23 year old graduates with none of this and no hope of every getting a Job. If you want to why dont you take these couple of years to pre-study at your own pace for your Bachelor. You'll end up with experience, a better Degree result and be much more 'employable' at the end of it.
OP Karl_Win 1 | 5
1 Jun 2012 #3
Hi Gdyniaguy,

Thank you very much for that positiv response!
You just encouraged me ever more to take the position.

I was thinking the same thing regarding getting some work experince before my studies, because as I see it today so many people have good degress but no experince once they finish, and possible to have some decent working experince will outweigh the fact that I only wanna take a bachelor and not a masters.
peterweg 37 | 2,319
1 Jun 2012 #4
I'd strongly suggest you take this job which is quite well paid. Experience in a job is valuable and will make it much easier for you in future.
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
1 Jun 2012 #5
I manage a business and if i'm looking for a member of staff i'll always choose experience over education. Not saying that education is worthless but there are 10's of thousands of people will great degrees and no common sense. Good workers tend to have it by the bucket load. Also, never turn down a job because it's below you..or you feel that you are better. A cleaner if they put their mind to it can start their own cleaning business and be a miliionaire before a rocket scientist.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
1 Jun 2012 #6
Why don't you take a couple of years out from education and gain so valuable 'life' experience

+1

I'd strongly suggest you take this job which is quite well paid.

+1

Not saying that education is worthless but there are 10's of thousands of people with great degrees and no common sense.

+1,000,000
Maybe 12 | 409
1 Jun 2012 #7
Take the job.

For a 21 yr old with no prior job experience, a junior accountant for 6000zl a month
TAKE THE JOB, DON'T LOOK A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH.
Youth unemployment is massive across Europe, Krakow is great, your 21........ damn it you are making me envious.
terri 1 | 1,665
2 Jun 2012 #8
I bet the job is with State Street - people say they are a bit of a pain to work for - but excellent experience.
OP Karl_Win 1 | 5
2 Jun 2012 #9
Also, never turn down a job because it's below you..or you feel that you are better.

No I didnt mean it at all this way! I just wasnt quite sure if I was gonna be getting underpaid according to be position I have been offered. To me it doesnt seem like much I would make, but I'm sure its just because I compare it to salaries in Denmark, which maybe I shouldnt.

But thank you all very much for the positiv feedback, I know others opinions shouldnt matter when you make a decision in life, but still your comments/advices helped me make up my mind.

So thansk alot guys!

I bet the job is with State Street

No actually its not. May I ask why you would assume this?
terri 1 | 1,665
2 Jun 2012 #10
State St are always on the lookout for new candidates. If you managed to get a job with the Big4 then good luck to you.

Benn there, done that, got the t-short. I'm going to try State St in the future myself.....
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
3 Jun 2012 #11
Anyways, I've been offered a a postion as Junior accountant in Krakow.

At which company ?
terri 1 | 1,665
3 Jun 2012 #12
I believe it might just be at one of the call centres - they are always on the lookout for accountants....;-)
OP Karl_Win 1 | 5
3 Jun 2012 #13
It might be, but I was promised that this isnt a call center position, but that it involves working general ledger and such. But offcourse there will be some calls/emails to take care of in my native language.

At which company ?

I`m sorry, but is this relevant to my question?
OP Karl_Win 1 | 5
3 Jun 2012 #15
Okay then.
The offer is from Capgemini.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
3 Jun 2012 #17
Exactly.

So I'm 21 years old, no previous full time job postion and my educational background is an economic Gymnasium.

Let's be honest, with such qualifications you would have problems finding any job If you were Polish, after x months of searching, you would maybe find something for 1500-1600 a month. The company seems to have a policy of paying foreigners several times more than Poles. A Polish person on that position wouldn't get more than 2500 and for sure a degree in economy and fluent in 2 foreign languages would be required. If you want to live in Poland, just take this job because such opportunity will rather not happen again. Just take it.
OP Karl_Win 1 | 5
3 Jun 2012 #18
Wow, I didnt know this. Thats actually pretty sad! But I guess just reality.

Anyways it seems ive gotten all the answers/advices which I needed to make up my mind. Thank you all very much!
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
4 Jun 2012 #19
To be honest Grzegorz Polish degrees don't hold much water with foreign companies. Everybody and their granny in Poland has one they make exam results so easy to keep the masses happy (it's the old socialist trick) . That's the reason why Polish university's arn't highly recognised outside of Poland. The reson why foriengers are paid more is due to the international expertise and knowledge that they will bring to the table plus a higher productivity.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
4 Jun 2012 #20
To be honest Grzegorz Polish degrees don't hold much water with foreign companies.

You can tell it to your village buddies, I've been working for international companies for many years and not at the bottom to put it mildly.

The reson why foriengers are paid more is due to the international expertise and knowledge that they will bring to the table plus a higher productivity.

Yes, because we all know that a 21 y.o. guy with no previous experience has plenty of that. Dude, go talk to pawian, don't provoke me or I will humiliate you the way that you will run away and won't show up here again.
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
4 Jun 2012 #21
topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011

Look at the Worlds Top 200 universities and see if you can find a Polish one. If you have a guy who studied in Poland and a guy from say Manchester University I know who'd get the job with a foreign company. There are numerous reasons why Universities make the list and universities don't. In fact, Polish universites rank 39th in the world in a list of top universities.

webometrics.info/Distribution_by_Country.asp

You can tell it to your village buddies, I've been working for international companies for many years and not at the bottom to put it mildly.

But then again in my village we have Oxford, Cambridge, Durham.....and are 3rd in the world after the US and Germany.

Polish education is rubbish.... it produces cheap factory workers at best.
bullfrog 6 | 602
4 Jun 2012 #22
A Polish person on that position wouldn't get more than 2500 and for sure a degree in economy and fluent in 2 foreign languages would be required

Not true if 1) the job is with a foreign company 2) it is located in the large city.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
4 Jun 2012 #23
I do employ people for "a foreign company". I tell you, go and impress villagers with your "wisdom". Besides, the job is a Junior accountant in an outsourcing center, It's basically "processing", a modern equivalent of a production line worker.

Not true if 1) the job is with a foreign company 2) it is located in the large city.

Not not true.
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
4 Jun 2012 #24
That foreign company will be in Poland because you are cheap. Nothing else.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
4 Jun 2012 #25
I am simply better than you. Don't agree ? I am ready for any kind of testing.

Now be gone and let grown ups discuss serious issues.
bullfrog 6 | 602
4 Jun 2012 #26
Not not true.

Utter rubbish. When I was in Poland, the company I worked for employed ca 11 accountants and none was paid less than 5,500 PLN per month
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
4 Jun 2012 #27
Utter rubbish.

You don't even realize what kind of job is being discussed here.
gdyniaguy 1 | 281
4 Jun 2012 #28
I am simply better than you

Better then me really? You're cheap and as soon as the EU expands again then there will be cheaper and you my friend will have to do the old Polish trick of mass emmigration.
AppleTree
26 Mar 2015 #29
Merged: How much are they paying for a Hebrew speaker in accountant / finance in Poland?

I am a native Hebrew speaker with a polish passport and a B.A in economics from Israel top uni.(good grades;))
the downside is lack of experience only 1 year but in a different sector of finances.

how much would be a reasonable amount to ask for, as a junior accountant in Krakow?
I understand that the salary varies between different languages so I will appreciate if you have any knowledge about the Hebrew.

also a following question, if I do go for it what is the best university for economics in Krakow? if there is any good one.

Thanks in advance
Siema 1 | 4
26 Mar 2015 #30
if u have 1 year experience demand from the employer an upper band than junior when you apply for a position. You can ask for around 6-6,5 thousand gross for hebrew language in finance in Krakow. With some more experience you can go for a bit over 7 thousand. It doesnt matter if u have degree from the best or the worse universities. Sometimes u dont need to have a degree at all,if they urgently look for the language speaker. Those are all helpdesk jobs in Corpos. So anyone who speaks the language can do it.


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