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15000 pln gross in Poland or 1.20 lac take home in India


Bhavik0827    
11 Sep 2018  #1
Is 15000 pln gross a decent salary for a husband and wife to live in Poland?

P.s. I am already earning 1.2 lac take home per month in India.
My primary interest in chosing Poland is that it would be relatively easier to migrate to any European country in later point of time where I can earn more. Please suggest
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,399    
11 Sep 2018  #2
Is 15000 pln gross a decent salary for a husband and wife to live in Poland?

Yes very much so. Average salaries in the cities are around 4k 5k gross. Youll live very well on such a salary

My primary interest in chosing Poland is that it would be relatively easier to migrate to any European country

So have 90% of the indians that come to poland. An increasing chunk are settling down in pl though as even though theyll make more money in w europe, the cost of living is much higher. If you can make 15k 20k zloty a month in poland you'll live better than making say 7k euro a month in places like berlin paris london uk
OP Bhavik0827    
11 Sep 2018  #3
Many thanks for your reply dirk. Could you also please let me know about the process to migrate to other European countries?

Is there any time period that I have to work in Poland and only then move to other European countries?

Is there any WhatsApp group for Poland expats?
MoOli 8 | 411    
11 Sep 2018  #4
There is no way to migrate to any other country until you get a job and get sponsored by that company or when you obtain a Polish citizenship then you can.From temporary residence you will have to get permanent residence and then citizenship.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,399    
11 Sep 2018  #5
Many thanks for your reply dirk. Could you also please let me know about the process to migrate to other European countries?

Youre a big boy. You can figure it out. Google is your friend.

To my understanding once you have eu citizenship you can work in any eu country, as far as pl/eu residency im not sure as personally i never had to go through it as im a dual us pl citizen.

Actually i am planning to open an immigration/consulting/recruitment type of firm in poland in the near future that caters to immigrants primarily the white collar and wealthy from India ukraine belarus russia Georgia China etc a one stop shop for everything related to entering immigration, finding a school, apartment, medical care, employment, etc. But thatll be in the next 1.5 2 years when we open our doors.

Is there any time period that I have to work in Poland and only then move to other European countries?

From what ive seen most stay around 3 to 5 years before moving on.

there any WhatsApp group for Poland expats?

Not sure about whatsapp but there is a thread here, probably the most active on this site actually, thats about visa immigtation etc info. Also there are numerous expat forums, facebook groups and a few english expat groups in my city of wroclaw.

What part of poland are you plannong on moving to?
dovla    
11 Sep 2018  #6
Moving to Poland will not help you to migrate to other EU countries unless you stay long enough to qualify for long-term EU residence. To qualify, you need 5 years in Poland and Polish language on B1 level. The process itself takes about a year, so after 5+1 years you will get a Polish long-term EU residence, which you can exchange for e.g. German long-term EU residence if you get a job offer from Germany.
OP Bhavik0827    
12 Sep 2018  #7
@MoOli
That perfectly make sense. in my post I mentioned a term 'relatively' easier.as per my knowledge, Germany has lot of opportunities in the technology I have been working till date. So, I thought that working in Poland (may be after 3 years or so) and getting a EU Blue card ,I heard from a friend that it will take 3 years to get a blue card which gives us eligibility to work in other EU Nations when we have a valid job offer. As Blue card holder , we only need a job offer from other Nations and not sponsorship. Is it true? Please clarify.

Hello Dirk,

Glad to see your responses. All the very best for your future endeavors.

I am moving to Wroclaw btw. Could you please let me know what will be the rent for a 1 bed room flat and what will be the expenses for a couple?

Sorry if I am posting an already answered question again. It would be great if you can let me know the thread if there is already one.

@dovla
Polish long term residency when you say do you mean polish citizen ship?
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,399    
12 Sep 2018  #8
Could you please let me know what will be the rent for a 1 bed room flat and what will be the expenses for a couple?

Rents in wroclaw for a small 1 bedroom are as low as 2.5 but usually for that youll get a tiny place, very outdated and a less desirable part of town. If you plan to share a place with your wife yoh can find a decent place for 3k zloty and a fairly nice one for 4k plus. Theres a new towm home development being built right on the outskirts that are priced 400k zs plus.

I have a hectare sized lot in wroclaw but the home is a tear down but ill develop it once i settle down there for goo. Im actually about to close on a small 1 bedroom near skytower. Its nothing fancy small place but im getting it super cheap as the current owner is a drunkard going through a divorce - my favorite types of seller in one package.

As far as expenses it depends on your lifestyle. If yoy live like a spartan you may be fine with 1k 1m5k a month. Some polish couples mske do with 4k a month total for rent food bills everything and somehow still manage.

At 15k gross youll be able to live comfortably afford certain luxuries and still save money each month. I would recommend investing your savings either in stocks, certain currencies or even real estate once you get to know the pl market more.
dovla    
13 Sep 2018  #9
Polish long term residency when you say do you mean polish citizen ship?

No, I mean long-term EU residence given by Poland:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_resident_(European_Union)
For Polish citizenship you need more (at least 8) years.

As Blue card holder , we only need a job offer from other Nations and not sponsorship. Is it true?

Not true. You can apply for a blue card not after 3 years but as soon as you get a job offer, but it doesn't give you access to the job market in other countries. The benefits of BC:

- your family can join you in Poland from day one, and your wife can work without the need to apply for a work permit
- if you move to another country, time spent in Poland will count towards the permanent residence or long-term EU residence in that country
Bhavik0827 - | 2    
1 day ago  #10
@dovla

Thanks for the insight.

Can someone please let me know what are the tax benefits that I get from polish government if my spouse is unemployed. For example someone said I will fall under 18 % tax slab instead 32 % if my wife is unemployed.
terri 1 | 1,414    
1 day ago  #11
You simplified the matter somewhat. You may pay less tax if you and your wife are both on the same Tax form at the end of the year. The first level is 19% tax.
Atch 15 | 2,438    
1 day ago  #12
someone said

They said wrongly :) your spouse not working won't make that much difference to your tax. If your taxable income is over 85,528 zl per year, you pay 15,395,04 zl plus 32 percent on the excess over 85,528.00.
dovla    
22 hours ago  #13
Yes, you can benefit significantly from joint taxation with your unemployed wife. Rough estimate: divide your joint taxable income by two ((180k+0)/2=90k), calculate tax on it (85k*0.18 + 5k*0.32), and then multiply by two.
Bhavik0827 - | 2    
20 hours ago  #14
Thanks again dovla. Can I avail this benefit from the first month of my employment in Poland or can only claim at the end of the year?
dovla    
20 hours ago  #15
Only once you submit your tax deceleration (end of April).



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