If America is so bad, why move here?

I've always said that when I fly from the USA to Poland, it's like getting in a time machine.


I don't understand this comment. I lived there for 4 years. What I have seen was with my own eyes.


I am totally losing you now. Someone suggested "your great great grandparents".....I pointed out that it wasn't that long ago. What are you talking about dude.


I'm really losing you now.


Oh blow it out your a$$. This is not factual and you know it. Quit posting crap just for the sake of sounding dramatic. You're posting now from the heart, how you feel about americans deep down, how you hate their ignorance, their arrogance, and pinning all your hatred towards america on me, as if i fit your stereotypical description.


Holy cow.

I'm beginning to think that a lot of the problems I'm having with people flat out misinterpreting me on this forum is due to the language barrier. I mean honestly folks....it's as if you simply don't know what I'm saying. It's almost getting too frustrating to post here anymore.

Care to explain where we misunderstood you.


What century Poland is now according to Fuzzy's calendar? What are the backwardness signs?

No, I don't care to explain where everybody misunderstood me every single time.

Why?

I'm starting to think that you really did spend your days living some sort of alternate-existence hell.

Did you have friends here, Fuzzy?

oh, that's cute, Delph.


how can you so much as comment on that when you have NEVER......EVER.....been to the USA? Why would it come as such a surprise to you, enough to render a smart a$$ response nonetheless.....when you have no idea what it's like to be in the USA.

keep up the good work, slapshot.

It's a serious question. Not once have you ever mentioned actually doing things with friends.

What I'm wondering is what kind of existence you must have had here - you've never once mentioned all the beautiful places in Poland. Did you never have the pleasure of drinking coffee in Karpacz on a snowy evening, or the pleasure of climbing some of the remote mountains, or sailing in Mazury, or exploring the forests of Wielkopolska, and so on?

Did you never take part in cultural activities, did you never sit on a summer's evening watching an outdoor performance at one of the many festivals, etc?

It seems to me that you had a pretty lonely existence here.

Pull down your pants, grab ahold of that comment, and reinsert it in your a$$ because that's most certainly where you pulled it from. What in the hell are you talking about.

Oh Delph, how sweet. You wrote me a song.

Ah. Thought as much.

HA Ha no truer words were ever spoken. My Dad always to me the same thing. He stepped ashore in America with twelve dollars in his pocket. He died in 1975 an extremely wealthy man. I once asked him if he would want to return to Poland.. His answer was. No never. He was very proud to be an American

Sitting in the Rynek in Zamosc sipping superb local beer that costs buttons and wondering at the beauty of the place and the lack of tourists. Reading a book in the Rynek in Przemysl, sipping a superb local beer that costs buttons, and wondering why virtually none of the Poles you know have ever been there. Wandering round the old town in Sandomierz, taking regular breaks for superb local beer that costs buttons, and wondering where everybody is. We could go on for quite a while about what our American cousins are missing.

it wouldn't be buttons, by any chance.

America, land of velcro.

Yes, how ignorant of me, you already have those, your government keeps it a secret and you spilled the beans on an open forum no less.


Do tell, from the heart my dear chap, don’t be shy. I’ll bet my bottom dollar that the scene you’ll describe I have seen already in one of those obscure low budged Hollywood productions.


For most of us 80 years is a lifetime. 80 years is a third of US history. Poland saw the rise and fall of communism in half that time and most people on this forum only know it from the history books but I must admit having such advanced technology as time travel the concept of time must be very confusing especially at the early stage, it will get some time to get used to it. 80 years is but a blink of an eye.


It’s not polite to fart in presence of strangers; I don’t know you that well, hell I’m not brave enough to do it in front of my wife, surely she would objects but I’m game if that’s your custom.


What are you trying to do, deprive me of life’s simple pleasures?


True, very true but you can’t blame me for that. OP, your countryman has set the tone of this thread as one big rant, I have simply obliged.


Now I’m confused, aren’t you an American? Their? Really?


Hatred? Such a strong word, I call it difference of opinion. You on the other hand, I’m just f***ing with. It seems like OP lost his interest in this topic and you’re the only one left standing or was it You that started this?

You see that's your problem. First you stir up then even don't bother to explain.


Your dad nunczka? Nunczka your in the age of my grandma!
A though crossed my mind... How many times you were in Poland nunczka?

you GOTTA try it.

Could you write something meaningful at last? For example explain the alleged misunderstanding

tell me, specifically, what you want me to answer. i already told you i'm not going to go into every single misunderstanding that has occured.

Why do you think everything Polish must be silly?

I don't think that. next.

Our music for example is silly. I think that simply the sound of Polish language is silly for you.

Which is why Polish-Americans will never be Polish.


I thought exactly the same thing about Przemysl - most people just treat it as a stop on the way West/East - but the Rynek is definitely interesting. Likewise with the castle - in fact, the whole place has a certain charm about it. When I was there, it was over 20c in the evening, the Rynek was full of life - impossible not to like the place.

I really wonder what Poland Fuzzy was living in, to be honest.

Heck - you can add that rooftop garden in Warsaw to the list.

that depends what kind of music you're referring too. Polish rap? yeah, it's beyond silly.


in the beginning it did, as it does for most foreigners.

Rap is always silly, regardless nationality. Do you remember Marky Mark?
But ok let it be: hip hop (which I'm not very fond of). There is some silly kiddy stuff: don guralesko, liroy, mieszko, 52 dębiec, tede, but there also was Kaliber 44, Paktofonika, O.S.T.R., Fisz, L.U.C, Pezet. If someone like gangsta style then Slums Attack, Peja, Hemp Gru... but I agree that even American gangsta rap is silly.


So you see now! I was right about Polish being silly for you.

No Polish people from Poland. Almost all the people I know who came here and recently say they'll never go back all Poland had to offer was low paying jobs.


I was in all those towns I was actually born and lived about 20km from Sandomierz in Stalowa Wola. They're ok nothing to be wowed about. Gdansk or Wroclaw have much nicer old towns. And the reason for lack of tourists in Poland Krakow can't really compare to Prague.

Sad thing is,some Americans want America to be the land of low paying jobs aswell.

If that was really all Poland has to offer, how can you explain the huge cars in my guarded car park, or the huge houses being built? How do you explain the people eating in expensive restaurants, or drinking in Browaria in Poznan (that's always packed full?).

It would be more accurate to say "all Poland had to offer them".

Prague is much closer to the "West" than Krakow - but it also had the advantage of being full of cheap/easy women after "die wende", unlike Krakow. That firmly established it on the tourist map.

I know those areas fairly well, Ostrowiec, Sandomierz, Ozarow, Opatow etc... thats one crap part of Poland, real depressing up there. Sandomierz is OK i suppose.

Gdansk is nicer than Zamosc? Or Sandomierz? I think you must have been sampling too much of the Zywe in Gdansk!

Sandomierz Rynek



Doesn't look so bad to me...

Zamosc is held in pretty high regard by many Poles, but it's also relatively inaccessible.

Two hours on the bus from Lublin!