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What English food would you serve a Pole?


jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Feb 2023 #61
British food beyond the versions that make it to tourist hotels in places like Spain or Malta

if you judge food by the breakfasts in downmarket tourist venues, Polish food would be judged as plastic 'cheese', cucumber, that disgusting, leathery Baltonowski 'bread', pre-packed hot dog sausages and flavourless mustard.

The thread's not about Polish food though.

Fried tomatoes? Delicious, especially with steak. Then again I hate raw tomato and never eat it.

Kerrygold Cheddar in Lidl in Germany

Factory stuff.

serving Shepherd's Pie to a guest

Only if they drop in unexpectedly and that's what you're having anyway. Unless you're Ebenezer Scrooge and serve leftovers to dinner guests.
mafketis 37 | 10,913
24 Feb 2023 #62
if you judge food by the breakfasts in downmarket tourist venues,

I resent that implication!

I did have a very nice Beef Wellington with onion sauce in Malta a few years ago and some other (presumably British things) that were nice so it's not all terrible but... fried tomatoes are the devil and beans for breakfast is the Devils' Mass!
Atch 22 | 4,135
24 Feb 2023 #63
Factory stuff.

It's not an artisan cheese but it's pretty good. Good enough to win plenty of gold medals - even in the UK ;) The milk all comes from very small dairy farms around Ireland and the cheese produced in Ireland until quite recently was made in small creameries and cooperative dairy facilities but that seems to be changing and I think there are a couple of larger plants now. There's a huge one in the UK I believe. A pity - but it's big business for Ireland. At least the milk is still 'authentic'. That's why I only eat Cadbury's chocolate from the Irish factory, the stuff you get here in Europe is nothing like the Cadbury's from Ireland. I go to Dealz to get Irish Flakes and Dairy Milk - oh joy! I used to love Tiffin but you never see it these days.

Under the influence of @Atch & Co I was now in Kaufland and bought Cheddar. It was a special offer for 9,99 €/kg. Not good, it was the cheepest cheese im shop. Nevertheless, I will taste it tomorrow with a good wine and report.
jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Feb 2023 #64
Grill it on toast (Cheddar is great for that). Toast bread on one side. Spread (strong) mustard on the untoasted side (horseradish or chilli sauce will do nicely instead) though this isn't essential, Put the cheese on (sliced) and toast until nicely gooey and bubbling.

It's called Welsh rarebit. Nice to eat with gherkins.

That or grate it and put in a baked potato with butter, One of Cheddar's strengths is that you can cook it well.

I just had some (sadly not grilled and bubbling) in a croissant with jalapenos.

If you're interested in English cheese, try Blue Stilton ( a bit dearer but not crazy dear) or Wensleydale with dried fruit or ginger in. Both are available in Germany as is Red Windsor (similar to Cheddar but with port wine in).
jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Feb 2023 #65
It's not an artisan cheese but it's pretty good

I've bought it but find it a bit creamy and mild for my personal taste, perhaps due to the rich milk used in it.. For creamy hard cheese, I buy Lancashire (I've got family and friends there and go to Lancaster for a few days most times when I'm back in the UK) and Kerrygold Cheddar seems to have characteristics of both Cheddar and Lancashire. Good quality though for a supermarket product but eclipsed now by newer brands. Good for cooking with but I'd probably add parmesan to give a bit of a kick.

My favourite Irish cheese is Cashel Blue. I used to play bridge with a guy from Ireland who used to go back there (sadly to hunt foxes) and he used to bring big wheels of it back. It's delicious!
Miloslaw 19 | 5,008
24 Feb 2023 #66
Irish and English cheeses are superb!
Did you know that the British Isles now make more varieties of cheese than France?

I suspect that France still wins on quality and different styles, but the British Isles are getting there......like their wines....
Alien 20 | 5,059
24 Feb 2023 #67
...like their wines

Was it paid advertising?
Miloslaw 19 | 5,008
24 Feb 2023 #68
Was it paid advertising

What?
Alien 20 | 5,059
25 Feb 2023 #69
@Miloslaw
It was a polite way to say that it can not be true with that wine.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,008
25 Feb 2023 #70
Have you tasted English wine lately?
It has really improved recently, unfortunately it is still more expensive than continental wines.
Alien 20 | 5,059
25 Feb 2023 #71
Have you tasted English wine lately?

No, and I have never seen an English wine in the store.
jon357 74 | 22,060
25 Feb 2023 #72
English wine.

British. It's not only from the part of Britain that's England.

I have never seen an English wine in the store.

In Kaufland and Lidl in Germany? Fime if you want a bottle of liebfraumilch for 6 euros....

Most wine from the UK is sold quickly to good restaurants and wine merchants or gets bought and laid down by investors

These two articles might interest you:
news.sky.com/story/british-sauvignon-blanc-wine-from-gloucestershire-vineyard-named-one-of-the-best-in-the-world-12788678
forbes.com/sites/valeriedenny/2015/10/31/english-sparkling-wine-beats-veuve-clicquot-and-tattinger-in-blind-taste-test/?sh=78aa5e3a25fb

Two articles about what's currently on offer:
decanter.com/decanter-best/great-value-wines-for-autumn-296565/
the-buyer.net/tasting/wine/best-of-british-wines-winegb/
Atch 22 | 4,135
25 Feb 2023 #73
if you want a bottle of liebfraumilch for 6 euros....

Remember the dreaded Blue Nun and Black Tower? :)) Graced many a British 1970s suburban dinner party table. Funny isn't it, German supermarket wine and frozen Black Forest cake were favourites and nobody mentioned 'the war' - well I may have mentioned it once but I think I got away with it ..........

I will taste it tomorrow with a good wine

It's not a cheese to eat with wine. It's better with a loaf of rustic bread and a raw onion if you eat them - I don't, being a 'lady' and dainty in my ways :)) For a drink, a nice cup of a strong blend like a good English Breakfast. That's the best way to enjoy a good cheddar cheese in my opinion.
Alien 20 | 5,059
25 Feb 2023 #74
@Atch
I read your post to late. I have already had a tasting. Here are the results:
Cheddar pure = soap
but Cheddar fine cut with olive and herbs and raisins and cashew nuts with Porto LBV 2014 Tesco finest = very, very nice
jon357 74 | 22,060
25 Feb 2023 #75
Cheddar pure = soap

There's nothing soap-like about it. Trty cooking with it.

Remember the dreaded Blue Nun and Black Tower?

Vile stuff. I liked the black bottles though when I was a kid, though sadly there was never alcohol in our house. I'm a few years too young to have bought it. My age group used to buy cheap stuff called Lutomer from I think Yugoslavia, That wasn't actually so bad.

Ginger wine from Scotland is nice and not just for mixing with whisky. That's gone down well when I've served it in Poland as a mixer or a liqueur
Atch 22 | 4,135
25 Feb 2023 #76
Porto LBV 2014

Oh, you like port! I love it! Two glasses of port on Friday and Saturday evenings while watching Midsomer Murders or similar :)) I must take a pic of my port glasses and post it here. They're old English cranberry glass, really enhances the experience to drink port from a nice piece of cut glass.
pawian 224 | 24,484
25 Feb 2023 #77
Cheddar is that hard cheese which crumbles when sliced?? So I don`t like it.
Feniks
25 Feb 2023 #78
I would serve homemade steak and kidney pie although not sure how well kidneys would go down with Poles. Might have to omit them. That or roast beef and yorkshire puds.

Summer pudding is nice for a dessert. To be honest I hardly ever eat anything British, I'm usually cooking pasta/curries/Moroccan type food.

Cheddar pure = soap

I don't get how you can taste soap to be honest. There are many, many different types of Cheddar from mild to extremely strong tasting . I personally like very strong Cheddar. Blue cheeses are delicious too. Have to agree with others here on Polish cheese. It's not good and very artificial tasting. I like Twaróg but only in Sernik.

Midsomer Murders

Oh I do love that programme. I always call it slaughterhouse of the shires due to the extremely high body counts :)
pawian 224 | 24,484
25 Feb 2023 #79
not sure how well kidneys would go down with Poles.

Only Polish monkeyasses love them.
Alien 20 | 5,059
25 Feb 2023 #80
how you can taste soap to be honest

it's more about the look and the texture, but the taste is also not mine. Polish cheese Królewski, Edamski, Mazdamer etc. is superb and plays in own league.
Feniks
25 Feb 2023 #81
Polish cheese Królewski, Edamski, Mazdamer

Are any of those Polish? I think Edamski and Mazdamer are Dutch cheeses and if memory serves me correctly, Królewski has holes in it like Swiss cheese.
Alien 20 | 5,059
25 Feb 2023 #82
Are any of those Polish

They are Polish made and there are many others like Radamer, Serenada, Salami, ser Babuni and so on.
jon357 74 | 22,060
25 Feb 2023 #83
Radamer, Serenada, Salami, ser Babuni and so on.

All near identical. The only different thing is the name.

There's also something called Cheddar made in Poland, however it wouldn't sell in the UK. It's not actually been cheddared so doesn't last as long and doesn't have that high tyramine content.


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