Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish?

Corned beef Irish style is a very simple dish, cooked in a very simple way. You won't find any elaborate recipes. The recipe I linked you to is by Darina Allen is about as authentic as any you'll find. She collected many old family recipes from elderly people when she was writing her cookbook on traditional Irish food.


Sorry Joker, I'd rather not! As a spectacle in is own right I'm sure it's fine, if you're into that kind of thing, but as an Irish person I find things like dyeing rivers and drinks green weird and cringeworthy.

Wait wasn't that the Land of Oz? or was it Yellow Brick Road>?

Wizard of Oz, everything was green. I still have a book from my childhood that included an extract from the Wizard of Oz and all the illustrations were green. I thought the whole thing sounded lovely even though green wasn't a particularly favourite colour of mine. Like most five year old girls I favoured pink.

The yellow brick road is in the Wizard of Oz though.

Up to a million people attend the festivities on St.Paddy day so the Irish do enjoy it:)


Same here. Its funny watching people as their teeth turn bright green. Dont drive home and get pulled over by the cops and smile! Haha

Plastic Paddys.... like Plastic Poles with no real connection to or understanding of the 'old country'..

@mafketis

More stereotypes, how typical .lol

What about the Dublin parade, plastic drunk Micks!

How many Irishmen does it take to screw in a light bulb?

4

One to hold the bulb and 3 to sit down and drink to make the room spin..

Nobody at the parade is drunk. It starts at about 11 in the morning and is over by around 2 in the afternoon. It's attended mostly by families with kids, people who live in or near the city centre and foreigners.

Nobody is drinking on bally muck island on St. Paddys day...lol

Ive been to Ireland several times but not during the parade. Ive seen plenty enough though and you cant fool me:)

It is a fun place and always have a great time, thats for sure.

So you say - and I remember responding that from the description you gave of your visits to relatives, they must be a rough lot. Where exactly have you been in Ireland - and don't say 'Dublin'. What part of Dublin? Details of these trips and how you've come away with these impressions. The average pub in Dublin is not especially rowdy or full of drunks. It's usually noisy because being able to have a chat is a very important part of pub culture and it's usually very crowded but not the kind of mayhem that you seem to imagine. This is fairly typical:




I said nobody is drunk at the parade. I didn't say that people don't drink or go to the pub. Some do. Mostly the younger ones. Most Irish people stay home on Paddy's Day and just relax.

So it is safe to say that calling joker Dorothy won't be too wild.

So, now you know how it feels to be stereotyped:) Not one person referred to me as a "plastic paddy"whilst visiting beautiful Ireland.


I met this really nice family in a Limerick pub and after the establishment closed they invited my friend and I back to their home for more drinks and food. We had such a good time that when we returned to the USA, I mailed him one of our American footballs as a gift. They were huge Manchester United fans. Ive lost touch with them since then, but will always remember their kind hospitality.


Some dude just recently got busted for trying to steal her ruby slippers.

Of course not. We're used to American tourists who call themselves Irish and we'd never be rude to them or hurt their feelings.

Limerick is considered a very rough town btw - it used to be called Stab City. But Irish people are good-natured on the whole, even when they're rough around the edges.

Being adopted by a group when you visit the pub as a stranger is fairly common in Ireland and going back to someone's house after the pub for tea and sandwiches is the norm :))

To complete strangers? This would be rather impossible in Poland or Germany.

Of course.

It happens in northern England sometimes too.

Very unlike PL where people in pubs sit at separate tables and only interact with the people they're with.

Happened few times but I would say mostly when people are young adults. Later in life the prosaic part takes over

All too true.

I used to do it when I was youngest but wouldn't now.

Ive never called myself other than being an American while abroad. I thought we were all yanks? We never refer to that term over here

unless its a redneck trying to start a fight.


I could attest to that. I met some lads in Waterford and they were all drinking Budweiser. For some reason they loved it..lol


York was a cool town. Ill be going back there again someday.


They are suspicious of strangers. They like to stare at ppl over here or observe, its kind of weird.

Well, the true pub culture is uniquely Irish and British. It's a place where people of all ages gather and interact. It's very sociable and falling into conversation with a complete stranger is the norm. In Ireland anyway, if you've been socializing with a group of people all evening and they are going on somewhere else you'll be included by default unless they really don't like you - but you'd never guess that they don't like you.;)

It's because of the history of how these places started. They were always places where strangers stopped on their way while travelling and mingled with the local community. The oldest pub in Europe is in Ireland, it's been trading as a pub for over a thousand years. The Irish pub has its origins well over a thousand years ago, in the 'bruidean' which was the local Chieftain's brewery and by Irish law of the time it had to be located at the crossroads and open to all strangers, twenty-four hours a day. The law was also very specific about the provision of musical entertainment - thus it's still very common today to have live music in the pub.


Well then why would you expect anyone to perceive you as a 'plastic Paddy'? We're not really that bothered about Irish-Americans. As far as we're concerned you're just Americans with Irish ancestry.

How many are still around? I seem to remember lots of articles about pub closures in the UK....

The Czech hospoda seems closer to pubs than anything in Poland... I wonder if Krakow (also part of the Austro-Hungarian cultural space) has something closer than the rest of Poland...

Now that one's a real can of worms. There are half a dozen contenders in England and they all argue about criteria, one claiming to be open since the year 850 although I'm sceptical. I've heard about the one in Ireland which does seem a genuine candidate for oldest.


It's nice to visit. Full of Chinese tourists when I was there last. You'd like Leeds. There's some really good pubs in the city centre, some have live music, some have traditional food.

There are still loads of them in Ireland despite closures. There were more than you'd need really. There was one town not that many years ago with a population of 1,500 people and fifty pubs!


Yes, I should think so :)

This year I will be making my corned beef and cabbage in a crock pot.
I hear that the trick is to add a half bottle of Guinis to it for that true Irish flavor.

America honors the Irish traditions from the Irish flag flying on private homes to the public parades to the food served in restaurants to the Irish music played on the radio.

I wonder if Ireland honors America's Independence Day in any manner.
Maybe joker could tell us since he has been to Ireland many times.

I sincerely hope you don't. Regular beef cooked in Guinness is tasty enough but it won't work with corned beef.

Is that a tried and true statement ?
This is where I got such an idea Ms. Atch

allrecipes.com/recipe/84270/slow-cooker-corned-beef-and-cabbage/

When cooking with beer, less is more.

I'd listen to Atch rather than a recipe someone posted online that you just found.

Johnny, the recipe you linked to says 'beer'. Guinness is not beer. It's stout and quite bitter for cooking- you'd have to use Guinness Draught. That's sweeter.

Now Ms. Atch, you didn't read far enough down did you as it says quite clearly:

From the Editor
Opt for a dark beer, such as a Guinness or another dry Irish stout, for the best flavor.


I agree with you jon, that is why I am picking her brain.
(As we all know, Ms. Atch is the only grounded woman here)

I shouldn't have to read the Gettysburg Address to find out that they meant Guinness. Maybe to Americans Guinness is beer but in the real world where we invented it, it's stout, a type of ale. Anyway, just remember to use Guinness Draught, otherwise you may have a very weird combination of salty and bitter flavours.

I wonder what 'other dry Irish stout' they have in mind. I can only think of Murphy's (sweeter and creamier than Guinness but really difficult to get, (even in Ireland) or Beamish.

Thank you again Ms. Atch as I would have never known that.
You are an angel. :-)
I have only tried Guiness once in my life in Jamaica where they serve it warm and that was the last time.
I like my beer as cold as you can get it just before it turns to ice. ie: 'Red Stripe' !
Maybe I should try a splash of that since it is a light lager beer.