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Being Transgender and visiting Wroclaw


UKPapz
27 Jan 2015 #1
Hi everyone, I am from the UK and my sister who is Transgender (Male to Female) is having Rhinoplasty in Wroclaw. How acceptable and tolerant are the people in Wroclaw, Poland of the Transgender community and is it safe?

Were really hoping to extend our stay and do some sight seeing whilst were there but will my sister be safe to go out including to a few night clubs?

Thanks in Advance :)
Monitor 14 | 1,818
27 Jan 2015 #2
It's not like in Germany. You can get beaten for looking different. But chances for that to happen during one trip are rather low.
Nyx1986
27 Jan 2015 #3
You must understand that Poland is still very Catholic and while it has a gay/transgender community it is generally considered something that should be kept to yourself. If you go around shoving the fact your gay or transgender in peoples faces you are likely to get into trouble. However Poles aren't barbarians, despite what America says they won't do anything like that unless they feel you're being disrespectful, so don't worry too much. Wroclaw actually is a great place to visit since alot of the old architecture is still standing since the Germans decided to spend most of its time bombing Warsaw. For nightlife there are a few gay clubs I've posted some links. I hope this helps.

cactus.wroclaw.pl

Theres also a pub/club called H2O in Wroclaw which is Wroclaws veteren gay bar
random-1
27 Jan 2015 #4
This may be hard to believe (I was astonished to find out about this when I read The Economist), but Poland had or has a transgender member of parliament (although Poland is still a very conservative country).

The following is from Wikipedia:
"Anna Grodzka (born 16 March 1954 in Otwock under the name Krzysztof Bęgowski) is a Polish politician. Grodzka, a trans woman, was elected to the Sejm in the 2011 Polish parliamentary elections as a candidate for the left-liberal Palikot's Movement, and is the first openly transgender Member of Parliament in Poland.[4] As of May 2013, she is also the only remaining openly transgender MP in the world.[5]"
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
27 Jan 2015 #5
This may be hard to believe

It's not hard to believe at all. The results of the parliamentary elections were not kept secret, after all :-) We also had an openly gay MP (Robert Biedroń) who is now the mayor of Słupsk. You really don't have to read the Economist to know that... ;-)
jon357 74 | 21,805
28 Jan 2015 #6
It's not like in Germany. You can get beaten for looking different. But chances for that to happen during one trip are rather low.

Her sister won't be the only transgender person out and about in Wrocław. There are more than you think in Poland and I don't foresee any problem.
pigsy 7 | 305
28 Jan 2015 #7
There are more than you think in Poland

I never saw any in Poland infact never in my life.Maybe couldnt recognise.
Roger5 1 | 1,449
28 Jan 2015 #8
You must have seen Aravani, Pigsy.
jon357 74 | 21,805
28 Jan 2015 #9
I never saw any in Poland

Probably because people don't carry placards to tell you about their life history
Polishgurl
30 Jan 2015 #10
Hi, you wont have any problems visiting Poland and being transgender, the cities are pretty safe. I am originally from Wroclaw in Poland but been in the UK since I was 7. I too am transgender and have visited many times for surgery with no problem - Good Luck!
weeg
31 Jan 2015 #11
alot of the old architecture is still standing since the Germans decided to spend most of its time bombing Warsaw

You will find that the Getmans didnt bomb their own cities - like Breslau as Wroclaw was then know.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
31 Jan 2015 #12
it would depend if she is noticable as a trans woman. Does she wear american tan tights with all the hairs curled beneath, as I have seen in Brighton lol, complete with five o clock shadow? Or is she like a Thai ladyboy all lovely?
frd 7 | 1,399
31 Jan 2015 #13
There's LGBT centric club in the old town's market square called Coffee Planet, coffeeplanet.pl Strict city centre, very safe.
Roger5 1 | 1,449
31 Jan 2015 #14
Just out of interest, how are the toilets configured?
frd 7 | 1,399
31 Jan 2015 #15
I'm not sure haven't checked. Have been there only once mid-day for a cup of coffee. The lgbt crowd gathers mostly in the evenings as far as I know, for events and concerts.
johnny reb 47 | 7,049
12 Feb 2022 #16
Just out of interest, how are the toilets configured?

A man followed a girl into the bathroom in Wroclaw, stating that he identified as a woman.
The man's teeth were knocked out by the girl's Polish father, who identified as the tooth fairy.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
12 Feb 2022 #17
who identified as the tooth fairy.

hahahhahah - brilliant
johnny reb 47 | 7,049
10 Aug 2023 #18
Just when I gave up on society a little old lady smiled and gave up her seat for a pregnant man with a beard.
pawian 222 | 23,646
10 Aug 2023 #19
Just when I gave up on society

You became a voluntary outcast???
pawian 222 | 23,646
10 Aug 2023 #20
Just when I gave up on society

You are very sensitive, we know. Yes, the society is so discriminating. They are racist, sexist, homophobic and more. But you can`t give up just like that!!! You need to stand up and fight!!!
Novichok 5 | 7,692
11 Aug 2023 #21
I am from the UK and my sister who is Transgender (Male to Female)

No man has ever become a woman and never will.
There are only two genders.
TheFutureOleh - | 1
11 Aug 2023 #22
Poland is a conservative nation, but most Polish people do not give a **** whether you are trans or not. You will be safe, but if you sister does not look like a female, then it will be socially unacceptable for her to go into women's spaces. If she looks like a woman, that is how she will be treated. So it will be fine although Poland is conservative.
Novichok 5 | 7,692
11 Aug 2023 #23
but most Polish people do not give a **** whether you are trans or not.

Some do enough to put a woman pretender - aka transgender "woman" - at risk of serious bodily harm when the guy finds a penis where he expected a vagina.

My advice: Always ask for the birth certificate before you reach down there.
amiga500 4 | 1,503
11 Aug 2023 #24
My advice: Always ask for the birth certificate before you reach down there.

Birth certificates can be legally changed in certain countries and parts of countries to reflect the trans persons chosen sex. (no lie)
Novichok 5 | 7,692
11 Aug 2023 #25
Can you name five as*hole places like this?
Alien 18 | 4,750
11 Aug 2023 #26
changed in certain countries and parts of countries to reflect the trans persons chosen sex. (no

Well, I guess it's normal, if you can change the gender, you can change the certificate. Just tell the clerk, you know what, my parents got it wrong, I've always been a woman.
jon357 74 | 21,805
11 Aug 2023 #27
ou know what, my parents got it wrong,

They didn't. Nature did and it's only decent to allow mistakes to be mitigated.
Novichok 5 | 7,692
11 Aug 2023 #28
if you can change the gender, you can change the certificate.

No, you can't change your gender, sex, race, DNA, or any other immutable traits. You can only lie about them.

If the document reflects your (editorial) lie or insanity you are screwing with the health care system and law enforcement. If you personally don't know how I will be happy to explain.

In the meantime...An hour ago, I was in a hospital for a routine blood test. The receptionist classified me as a male. OK. So I asked her what her other choices were.

Male, female, and non-binary.
What does non-binary mean? Is the patient not sure or won't tell?
We don't know.
Are there drugs that when administered to the wrong sex can cause harm to the patient?
Sure.
Would you test me for ovarian cancer if my doctor prescribed it?
No, we wouldn't because Medicare would not pay.
Ok, so knowing the patient's sex is important. Right?
Yes, it is.


The end of the non-binary crap.
Bobko 25 | 1,936
11 Aug 2023 #29
I would never go from being male to being a female. The lines to the bathroom are so incredibly long. I imagine there must be quite a lot of time management that goes into peeing, otherwise you risk going in your pants.

After a movie ends, I'm in and out of the bathroom in no time. Then I wait 15 mins for my girlfriend.

Even in the outdoors, where there are no lines - the peeing experience is incomparable. Having twigs and thorns scraping at my ass, instead of wistfully staring at the horizon as I stand proud and do my business.

This is not to say, that being a transgender tourist in Wrocław is not a safe thing to do.
jon357 74 | 21,805
11 Aug 2023 #30
I would never go from being male to being a female

I wouldn't mind the orgasms but the hair/makeup, the uncomfortable shoes and the misogyny would put me off a bit.

This is not to say, that being a transgender tourist in Wrocław is not a safe thing to do.

It's fine there and people are decent. The OP's sister should b fine.

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